FSUG-Bangalore November 2008

fsug-bangalore@mm.gnu.org.in

53 participants
115 discussions

About Launching uncorkers.org during RMS visit
by Shashi 08 Dec '08

08 Dec '08

Recently I had posted a thread about forming a free software developer community... People had responded to it by joining the Google Group... Uncorkers is a group of hackers organized in order of meritocracy To develop quality free software, pioneering technology, and documentation as well as partcipate actively in the Free Software Movement, You may think about uncorkers as a clone of Apache but the difference is that uncorkers promise to release their work under GPL and they are also active freedom fighters. I've been thinking about launching the website uncorkers.org since last month during the RMS visit... but i was in doubt about it being complete enough for the launch... Now that the code is improving with speed getting its finishing touches I'm sure it will be ready to serve by the end of next week... Sorry if I'm causing trouble by telling this late but How can I launch the site during the RMS visit... For RMS to decide i've made an email draft and the wiki page http://bangalore.gnu.org.in/index.php/User:Shashi/Uncorkers:About Please help. -- , , / \ ((__-^^-,-^^-__)) `_----' `-----_-' `--| o` 'o |--' \ ` / ): : ( :o____o: "------ " www.gnu.org www.uncorkers.org

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Fwd: History of Free Software movement in India
by Anivar Aravind 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Anivar Aravind <anivar.aravind(a)gmail.com> Date: Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:40 PM Subject: History of Free Software movement in India To: Principal Support List of FSF-India <fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in> Dear Friends In kochi conference I did a presentation on History of Free Software movement in India. (I presented my session after the boycott novell campaign and manhandling ) The slide of the presentation is available at http://anivar.movingrepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/storydom.pdf (Thanks Hiran for the Theme & design) I am planning to make this as an article. Please go through it and point if i missed any groups So please send your feedback Also it will help the people in this list to get the name of various groups contributed to the Free Software movement Anivar Aravind -- Any responsible politician should be encouraging a home grown Free Software industry because it creates the basis for future jobs. Learning Windows is like learning to eat every meal at McDonalds. -- Any responsible politician should be encouraging a home grown Free Software industry because it creates the basis for future jobs. Learning Windows is like learning to eat every meal at McDonalds.

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Ministry meeting with RMS, Eben
by Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) 03 Dec '08

03 Dec '08

Dear Arun, We had a discussion in fsug meeting on the minstry meeting in bangalore . What are the orgnaisations involved. What are the plans. Can representatives from our team join which will help the intrests of free software in karnataka. thanks senthil

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Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] [ubuntu-in] [OT slightly] Rant .gvfs & gnome-clock issues (specifically libgweather)
by shirish 02 Dec '08

02 Dec '08

Reply in-line :- On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 22:46, Onkar Shinde <onkarshinde(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Shirish, Omkar, > Your bug report is not very descriptive. It is not easy to understand. > Please update the bug report accordingly. That bug report is just to add the name the existing database, there would be need to be few others to tell the full story. > Also assuming that you are referring to the international airport at > Chakan, is it operating currently? I mean should we really expect the > location to be added in libgweather if it is not in operating state? Nope, the International Airport whose details I've put up is the one at Lohegaon from where limited flights happen. The code VAPO has been given to Lohegaon Airport. Giving below the references :- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pune_International_Airport or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pune_Airport http://www.world-airport-codes.com/india/lohegaon-5918.html http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=IN64220&sch=VAPO http://www.aai.aero/allAirports/civil_op_airports.jsp (This is the Airports Authority India Website) http://www.aai.aero/allAirports/pune_generalinfo.jsp So what I am referring to you is an Airport which is functioning, it also has a weather station whose code is given as VAPO, now whether its functioning or not, don't know, somebody told me its not functioning. That's all I know. > Onkar -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal This email is licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17

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RMS visit to IISc - say no to software patents
by Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

Hi, We are planning to put a website..and work on the issue of say no to "imposed monopoly rights" IIsc students had made this request . We were planning to do some ground level campaigning. Red hat Venky, Prof Gopinath said it would be important..given the fact of the 'software patents' are being trolled..and 'IP" cells are being promoted in a big way.. We thought if RMS would come it would be very nice. We had blocked 14,17th on discussions with Renuka and Anivar. Is this dropped completely ? Anyways we will continue the ground work.. thanks senthil

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Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] [Fsf-friends] SAY NO TO M$-VTU CAMPAIGN : Blr : 29th Nov 2008
by Vikram Vincent 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

Hey Senthil, The awareness campaign was a good start. We have a long way to go in influencing University policies. The issue of democracy must be made integral to all our campaigns in Karnataka. Without a democratic approach no one is going to accept our efforts however good-willed it may be. It is important to involve the teachers, the students and this must be a participative process. In solidarity with the Free Software Movement, Vikram Vincent 2008/11/30 Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) <sensunda(a)cisco.com> > Hi, > > I guess it was a good programme yesterday for free software ...we have to > concentrate on the long term aspects...please do write on what we could do > better..please make this a community report on what you thought is good and > bad.. > > We had many people saying "NO TO M$-VTU" Lock In. the nice thing was we > were able to have some new people From colleges : both lecturers and > students ..a good representation from all sections of civil socitey > > i think somebody will have the media report and picutres.. > > thanks > > senthil > > > > 0) we started with a 1 minute silence for all the tragedy in bombay > > 1) Lecturers : RVCE(renuka) , Chirst(viki) , CMRIT(pramode) ( one new > college) , > > 2) Students : christ , Amrita , bms-it, ait participated > > 3) We had research scholars from IISc > > 4) We had Dr Anja from IT for Change > > 5) We had a good number of programmers and people from the [proprietary] > software industry - I think many companies were repesented ;) > > 6) the children from the slum computing center , wanted to make this a day > out, to see what their teachers were upto..and sang a nice little song to > end the program - a song which means "we are building the dreams for a new > future" - they planned a visit to cubbon park, got late - but enjoyed the > picnic of sorts..they were happy to see the encouragement they got from so > many 'Drs and scientists" in blr.. > > 7) some students from bmsit came - but didn't like the 'street mode' - we > explained to them why its important to take streets at times - we will > work with them and are sure they will relaise the importance of this... > > 8) a good amount of material - press notes , fliers were in kannada this > time - this is important - thanks to the suggestion of sri ramadoss > > 9) we also had some t.v channels covering it this time apart from the > press..i do know the press people who came - please update > > 10) Dr Vijoo Krishnan, Head of Political Science . > > 11) Dr chaterjee - a scientist with Astro Physics > > 12) Parth from NRCFOSS also helped with the material. > > 13) Anivar from SMC > > 14) Renuka lecturer from RVCE > > 12) The student fedaration of india also had lent its support and said that > it will take the issue of free software [ the left naturally takes to free > software i guess ] > > 13) if we could have had a teachers union that would have been great.. > > 14) NRCFOSS also lent its support > > 15) There were folks from the kannada blogging community as well > > > > Thanks > > senthil > > -- Vikram Vincent +919448810822 http://swatantra.org/

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Todays event : Reminder : M.G Road : Gandhi Statue : 4.30 p.m : Awareness on VTU-M$ tie up
by Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

Hi, As many of you know many of us will be there in M.G Road today near Gandhi Statue 5.pm . college students, teachers , programmers will be campaigning on the wonderful gnu/replacements available and ask why students should only learn to run some software rather than learn how the software works. Its in someway symbolic its happening near Gandhi statue, as this man too pictched in his life for self-reliance and freedom. Freedom Matters in software society and soul. Free software . Free Society Be there...get your umbrella | enjoy the rain | enjoy the freedom ;) cheers senthil Awareness Campaign : Say no To M$-VTU deal Time : 5 p.m phone : Jay : 9448163453 ( for directions ) organised by : Volunteers for Free Software , Karnataka : fsug , nrcfoss, ac3, swantantra, bloggers

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Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] [Fsf-friends] Statement of FSF India board on recent incidents
by Nagarjuna G. 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Deepa Paul |ദീപാ പോള്‍ <deepa.paul(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> <snip> As mentioned in the answer to an earlier question, FSF India is not a >> mass movement and is not a democratic organisation. >> </quote> > > I think the above sentence is little misleading. First Part is OK. > But I believe Democracy exists within its board. > > The process to select board does not need to be democratic completely. > for eg: GPLv3 drafting will be failure if it was decided completely > by users participating in drafting process. There was commitee ( not > democratically elected ) to analyse and take the needed . > > But Democracy within the board is very important. It may be true that > FSF India is not working on electoral / Representational democracy. > That is Ok. But Democratic decision making in the board is important > to make it as a democratic structure > I also think that the statement is too short and does not sound good. It may be changed to something like: FSF India is not meant to lead a mass movement, but it may support a mass movement, or its members may join or lead such mass movements. The members of the board are selected from the among the leads from within the free software community of India, and the selected board of directors members work democratically. 'not democratic' does not sound good. We can make an amendment to the FAQ after hearing some more constructive criticism. Nagarjuna

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Prof Eben visits bangalore
by Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

Dear All, Professor Eben Moglen is visiting blr . Dec 12,13,14. Plans are still tentative. I had informally informed others.. Folks can directly write to Mishy Chowdaray of the Freedom Law Center for requests. thanks senthil

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RMS Karnataka plans
by Arun M 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

Dear all, Pls find the RMS's plan for Karnataka. regards arun 13th Dec 2008 : Visit at R.V.C.E Event , Public talk + Book release ( 10.00 am to 1.30 pm ) 14th Dec 2008 Night(Sunday) : To Mysore -- 15th Dec 2008 Morning : 10.00 to 1.00 pm Talk at SJCE, Mysore , 16th Dec 2008 Morning : Meeting at Christ University ( 10.00 to 12.00 only ) : Visit to Ambedkar community canter ( before 2.30 pm ) 17th Dec 2008 Morning : Talk at SIT , TUMKUR

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