FSUG-Bangalore June 2008

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Can you present on technical topics on gnu/linux
by Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) 04 Jul '08

04 Jul '08

Dear All, Can you present on technical topics on GNU/Linux. IEEE blr is interested in working with free software community . We are planning to meet the IEEE folks at 3.30 p.m Thursday for a very prelimnary discussion to see how to take things forward. -S

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GNUs Grazing at Cubbon Park this Saturday at 3pm
by Praveen A 28 Jun '08

28 Jun '08

Hi GNU heads, Its been a while since we had a GNUs Grazing sesion. Lets graze at Cubbon Park this Saturday 3pm. Sign up and show up !! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Bangalore/GNUs_Grazing/28June2008 Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Fwd: [openmoko-announce] Let us impact the material world
by Praveen A 27 Jun '08

27 Jun '08

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sean Moss-Pultz <sean(a)openmoko.com> Date: 2008/6/27 Subject: [openmoko-announce] Let us impact the material world To: List for OpenMoko community discussion <community(a)lists.openmoko.org>, announce(a)lists.openmoko.org Dear Community I am in Columbia. Drinking local coffee (yes Paola your coffee is the best in the world) and thinking with the early morning clarity only those blessed with jag-lag can understand. Yesterday was an amazing day. After a morning walk around the government buildings and many beautiful museums of Bogota, we went up into the mountainous region of Monserrate. To get to the top of this cityscape icon and pilgrimage destination you have three choices: A gravity defying train, a somewhat stable cable car, or climbing. Pilgrims prefer the latter; but, perhaps due to the long delays of FreeRunner, my sense of urgency even here was overwhelming, I chose the cable car. For almost two years now I have told the story of Openmoko. Ascending that mountain provided me with a brief moment where, like my new view of Bogota, I was able to look at things from the outside. A moment long enough to rethink the way in which I told our story. I realized that evangelizing the impact of digital technologies is not enough. We must take charge of them. The story of Openmoko needs to be a story of us changing our "open source reality". For this is the opportunity presented to us now. Think: The collapse of so many hi tech companies on our stock exchanges has humbled many. Creators within the digital world -- no matter how novel and exciting -- will have no value unless they impact the material world directly. So this is my call to all of us today. Our work must begin to impact the material world. We have the tools. We have the knowledge. We must use our knowledge to transcend the digital world. People use heroes as touchstones to help them surmount their challenges. John Maeda has been a hero of mine ever since I first discovered my love for combining art and computers. I encourage you all to learn more about this incredibly creative person. His "Laws of Simplicity" would be a good place to start. For projects like ours, these are indeed guiding lights. Let me share one of his "laws" with you today; it's the tenth one: "Simplicity is about subtracting the obvious, and adding the meaningful." Hardly a day goes by for me without thinking about this elegant idea. The smart phone has become too complex. Our challenge is to make it simple and wise. Yes I am well aware of the distance between us and this goal. The complexity of our system pains me as much as I'm sure it pains you. But starting today, I hope we can become more conscious and more focused on simplicity and wisdom. We have been hard at work subtracting the obvious from our current architectures. Our new framework initiative (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework), is all about simplicity achieved through a complexity of thought and design. But Maeda insists that we must add meaning. Removing the obvious is not enough. So then, what meaningful for a smart phone? What exactly can we add that hasn't been added before? Today let me share two concepts. The first stems from a genre of design called "reactive graphics". Pressed to come up with an explanation of how this differs from interactive graphics, I would say the following: Reactive design engages the viewer at an almost instinctual level, rather than just the communication level found in interactive designs. This has a profound effect on how an individual views technology. "Reactivity" is, in my opinion, the key ingredient for making computers feel more human. All living organisms react. When our Neos begin to react to the environment around them, they will feel more alive to normal people. This is comforting. This is a simple way for us to impact the material world. Meeting interesting people with creative ideas is perhaps the most rewarding part of my job. Last night, while fighting off the less-than-helpful side of jet-lag, I had an great conversation with my new Columbian friend, Offray, about how Openmoko can better impact our daily lives. The Neo, to him, is a social cognition node -- an artifact -- where we can balance the power of the individual with that of the group within the mobile world. Here comes the second concept: Artifacts, he explained, have values embedded within, but sometimes they are not explicit. Our challenge, he said, is how to make this explicit. Start with things people are familiar with and find new ways to make them more qualitative, says Offray. Take SMS, he continues, instead of just plain text, why not send special compressed messages, readable only by Neos. We can use these as enablers to change mobile ecosystems. Hack their network to embed more freedoms for normal people. Add more meaning. Transform our Neo into an artifact. These are only two concepts. Many more exist. Together, we must start a conscious exploration of simple ways to impact the material world around us. Exactly where this will lead us is unclear. But we must begin. Whenever I talk publicly about Openmoko, or so it seems, the following question is asked: How can you compete again the giants of this industry? For most of us, I'd like to think, the answer is obvious. Instead of answering, I usually return their question: How can they compete against us? Openmoko is the collective creation of amateurs working on exactly what we love. They are professions, some doing what they love, most working towards the next paycheck. At certain times, the amateur has a distinct advantage over the professional. A professional knows what they can deliver, and rarely goes beyond it. An amateur has no concept of their limitations and usually goes well beyond them. Experience teaches us our limits. When we have learned that and become complacent, we are finished, because our work can be calculated and measured. Our work ceases to be a weapon. Now is such a time. Let us ignore limitations. Let us create new technologies that breed new ways of thinking. Let us impact the material world. Thousands of FreeRunners have been loaded into planes and fired around the world. Many of our distributors have already begun shipping. In about another week, Steve and Harry will announce the opening of our own webshop. I plan to start a new blog, sharing stories of how our Neos impact the material world. If you have something you would like to share, please email me directly. I would love to weave your ideas in our collective story. Thank you, from the the bottom of my heart, for all your incredible support and patience. I know the delays have been long. But now we are ready. Let us run free and impact the material world. Sincerely, Sean (one very excited amateur) -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] FW: GNUs Grazing at Cubbon Park this Saturday at3pm
by renuka prasad 26 Jun '08

26 Jun '08

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:02 PM, renuka prasad <renukaprasadb(a)gmail.com> wrote: > HI all there are chances where the current syllabus of VTU could be > changed the committee member s and the board of studies is quite open for > discussion so there is a need for a strong and well articulated > representation is needed so that VTU also gets convinced in order to make > changes in the LABS and Subject where free softwares could be used instead > of proprietary softwares > > > may be in coming month that is some where in mid of July we can approach > with proper documents and as well as a team to discuss > > i have collected the files that have the proposed syllabus --and waiting > for some moreto come so that we ca suggest the alternatices for all the > streams of BE /MTECH and MCA --- mainly i have files relevant to computer > science streams ----- so please join more innumber and give your valuable > suggestions and guidance and support so that the syllabus will get changed > .. > > SO LETS MEET THIS SATURDAY AND DISCUSS THE STRATEGIES --- i will mail the > files which contains syllabus as soon as i receive all braches from my > friend > > > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Balaji Kutty <balaji.kutty(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I will try my best to make it up. Can I confirm by end of tomorrow? >> >> -balaji >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) < >> sensunda(a)cisco.com> wrote: >> >>> hi >>> >>> would definitely like to take part in any future activity >>> >>> this weekend i am tied up with other activities...balaji...will it be >>> possible for u to attend.. >>> >>> -s >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* fsug-bangalore-bounces(a)mm.gnu.org.in [mailto: >>> fsug-bangalore-bounces(a)mm.gnu.org.in] *On Behalf Of *renuka prasad >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:44 PM >>> *To:* Free Software Users Group - Bangalore >>> *Subject:* Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] GNUs Grazing at Cubbon Park this >>> Saturday at3pm >>> >>> i confirm i am joining >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Praveen A <pravi.a(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi GNU heads, >>>> >>>> Its been a while since we had a GNUs Grazing sesion. Lets graze at >>>> Cubbon Park this Saturday 3pm. >>>> Sign up and show up !! >>>> http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Bangalore/GNUs_Grazing/28June2008 >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Praveen >>>> -- >>>> പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ >>>> <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! >>>> <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? >>>> (as seen on /.) >>>> Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! >>>> http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FSUG-Bangalore mailing list >>>> FSUG-Bangalore(a)mm.gnu.org.in >>>> http://mm.gnu.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fsug-bangalore >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FSUG-Bangalore mailing list >>> FSUG-Bangalore(a)mm.gnu.org.in >>> http://mm.gnu.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fsug-bangalore >>> >>> >> >

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Free library management software and progress with St.Joseph
by Balaji Kutty 20 Jun '08

20 Jun '08

Hi all, I'm going to talk to St.Joseph college on Monday regarding starting a chapter there. I will first meet the Principal and the HOD discuss about what Free Software Bangalore will try to do there and how students will benefit because of it and then with your help we will have session for the students. St.Joseph also has to get a software for managing their PG library. I will try to google around to check whether there is any Free library management software. If you had come across any such software, please let me know. Thanks, balaji

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FW: [Ilugc] free music : what happened - whats happening - why itshappening
by Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) 19 Jun '08

19 Jun '08

Hi All, Todays Hindu , Blr , Metroplus carried a article on how music might be free as in freebies soon..it talked about what happened, whats happening with music but not much about "WHY" i thought including "why its happening" and the 'creative commons movement' - will give a more interesting picture.. http://creativecommons.org/audio - share , reuse , remix - legally !!! -S WHAT HAPPENED ------------------------------ "And the legal battle has raged on long and hard as Napster, the world's favourite P2P music and MP3 sharing service was outlawed in 2001 after mainstream artistes like Madonna, Dr. Dre and Metallica filed lawsuits against Napster." WHATS HAPPENING ------------------------------- "Apple users can use the already existing iTunes music service to download free as well as paid content. It won't be long before we can all get the latest records of our favourite bands the day it's out and more importantly, legally" http://www.hindu.com/mp/2008/06/19/stories/2008061951020100.htm WHY ITS HAPPENING --------------------------------------- there are lots of other things going on in the Net about ownership. Music and movies and various other forms of culture are being distributed better by children than by people that are being paid to do the work. Artists are beginning to discover that if they allow children to distribute art in a freehanded sort of way, they will do better than they do in the current slavery in which they are kept by the culture vultures, who do, it is true, make a good deal of money out of music, but they do so primarily by keeping ninety-four cents out of every dollar and rendering six to the musicians, which isn't very good for the musicians. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/moglen-harvard-speech-2004.html _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-request(a)ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe <password> <address>" in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

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help needed in making a video recording
by Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) 14 Jun '08

14 Jun '08

Dear Community, There has been requests to video record the session by Abhas. We dont have some one who can do it. If someone volunteers for the same.. We will let you know when the next talk happens and you can video record the same. Some more talks are in pipeline. However if anybody is interested the presentation is in the links in ( at the end of the page) http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Bangalore/Free_software_business_model regards -S

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Further developments in building Free Software Chapters in the colleges
by Balaji Kutty 14 Jun '08

14 Jun '08

Hi all, I met Viju, our contact in St. Joseph yesterday(Friday). The college is reopening on June 16th. Lecturers and students will be preoccupied on the first week. Viju will arrange for a meeting on the second week. This meeting will involve the HOD and professors of computer department. We will discuss Free Software awareness program with them first and then take it forward to the students with their help. Viju says that he had already talked to the management and HOD. They have showed positive response to this idea. So, it shouldn't be very hard to build a chapter their in St.Joseph. Viju also mentioned about the software required for their library. Is there any library management system licensed under GPL. If there is one, we will suggest and get them working in their library. If not, we can have the students of St. Joseph themselves develop this library and get them contribute this software to the community. I will keep you posted as it moves forward. Thanks Balaji

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OOXML put on hold amid opposition from India
by Shibu C Varughese 13 Jun '08

13 Jun '08

hi .. *OOXML put on hold amid opposition from India* http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/Software/OOXML_put_on_hold_ami… -- Regards, Shibu | http://itmission.org

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Discussion on Free software business model at Christ College
by Vikram Vincent 13 Jun '08

13 Jun '08

Hi, We had a discussion on "Free Software Business Model" at Christ College today for the MBA students where around 150+ students participated. Thanks to Abhas for making the session very interactive. Will post a more detailed mail later. -- Vikram Vincent +919448810822 http://swatantra.org/

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