Hi Shakti Kannan,

On 2017 Jul 14 11:22:30, Shakthi Kannan wrote:

Appreciate your enthusiasm and effort.

Thank you very much for your appreciation and the feedback.

If you can add something that has a local flavour to Mumbai, it will be easy to identify the logo.

I agree with your critique of the logo. I tried to incorporate some wide variety of symbols related to Mumbai for example a silhouette of gateway of india, local train I even tried Vada Pav in tux's hand. But it was becoming too cliche and forced. Hence I settled on the most basic and simple form i.e. Tux mascot and name of the group in bold, which is readable at a very small size too. However my take on this may be wrong and may be it can be improved and done without going too overboard. And as most developers usually say to us normal users - "patches are welcome!" :) This is the reason I shared the source file so that anybody can improve it. I would be more than happy to see the improved version of this logo.

Also, I am not sure if you can use the flag colours. The "Flag Code of India, 2002" has some guidelines:

Thank you for raising this concern.

I have read the flag code prior to selecting these colors. Particularly the section III of the flag code which states the use of the flag. It states that "colourable immitation" is not allowed. For it to be a colourable imitation it should look like flag of india, once such example would be in my opinion logo of Indian National congress or T.M.C where they have replaced Ashoka chakra with party symbols.

However, I may assuringly say that in my knowledge any of the colours that are known to man are not copyrighted to anybody, and more so the colors that I have used in my design are different than the colors of our flag, for example the saffron color (RGB hex code - #ff6600) is not the color of the saffron in our flag which is brighter, more saturated and approximately has this rgb hex code - #FF9933. The green that I have used is also different. Moreover the colors need to be in specific shape and order for it to be identified legally as our national flag, plus there is no ashoka chakra or it's blue color used in this logo. So in my opinion, this logo is not "colourable imitation" and doesn't resemble indian flag in any manner or creates the impression that it relates to the Government.

Please correct me if I am wrong in this regard or please let me know if there is any other law in India, that I may be unaware of, which forbids the use of any tints or shade of these colors together in design for artistic expression.

Thank you

On 2017 Jul 14 14:32:29, Shakthi Kannan wrote:

Technically speaking, yes. But, the first impression that I got was the imitation of the national flag. Hence, my point of view on the same.

Well my intention was to invoke the indian feeling, which I guess you have experienced, but call it imitation.

Well "imitation" is wrong word here I guess. I won't call it imitation. In my opinion imitation means exact replica with slight change intended to misguide the onlooker and to make him think it is the original. I doubt you thought that this is our national flag.

And as I have explained earlier for it to be an imitation, it should have a striking resemblance. Just using the color of our national flag to invoke indian feeling is not imitation. You can see such usage in many logos, for example Mumbai Indian logo has two swooshes which have saffron white and green color. Sahara India has this scheme, etc. If you get the feeling of india when seeing those color that doesn't mean it is imitation. If mere using the colors in a row is imitating the national flag then in that sense everybody is forbidden to use these three colors together in branding other than govt. of india :)

Nevertheless, in my free time, I'll try to come up with something without these three colors, as you think it looks like our national flag and some others may also feel the same and may think it is related to the flag or Govt. of India.

Thank you very much for your feedback.

Yes. It should be accepted. On 14 Jul 2017 5:13 pm, "Rushabh Mehta" rmehta@gmail.com wrote:

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On 2017 Jul 14 14:32:29, Shakthi Kannan wrote:

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Technically speaking, yes. But, the first impression that I got was the imitation of the national flag. Hence, my point of view on the same.

Well my intention was to invoke the indian feeling, which I guess you

have experienced, but call it imitation.

I think this discussion is completely un-necessary :) For the record I think the logo looks great and we should definitely use it.

Shakthi, I understand your need to put across technical point (which may not be valid at all), but you could have let it go. The use of the three colours is so common that it is irrelevant here. If anything, it resembles Italy more than India.

From my point of view you are just being a killjoy.

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Hi,

--- On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Raghavendra Kamath raghavendr.raghu@gmail.com wrote: | Well "imitation" is wrong word here I guess. I won't call it imitation. --

That is your opinion, and I shall leave it at that.

--- | Nevertheless, in my free time, I'll try to come up with something without | these three colors, as you think it looks like our national flag and | some others may also feel the same and may think it is related to the flag or | Govt. of India. --

That was exactly my point of view, and you understood it well.

SK

Hi,

--- On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Raghavendra Kamath raghavendr.raghu@gmail.com wrote: | Well I will try to come up with something, just because of a probability that people might think like you, | but I don't really | agree with your point ... --

Sure. It is fine for two people to have different opinions.

--- | Well I must point you to a picture of our national flag then here it is -> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_India#/media/File:Flag_of_India.svg --

I cannot speak for Wikipedia. You might want to write to them and ask.

SK