We work around it but is the BIOS not the culprit in such cases? I am not saying that GNU won't load on these machines.
GNU will not load on *any* machine - you need a kernel for that
As a matter of fact, GNU *does* load, and I happen to use a couple of such machines.
Cheerio, Debarshi
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Debarshi Ray debarshi.ray@gmail.com wrote:
We work around it but is the BIOS not the culprit in such cases? I am not saying that GNU won't load on these machines.
GNU will not load on *any* machine - you need a kernel for that
As a matter of fact, GNU *does* load, and I happen to use a couple of such machines.
You didn't get it,Kenneth is differentiating between GNU which is the Application layer and Linux which is the kernel,but now let's not get into flamewar territory.
I got only one entry: easwarh@l1nuxr0cks:~$ dmesg|grep MSFT [ 0.000000] ACPI: DSDT (v001 ATI AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000e) @ 0x00000000 easwarh@l1nuxr0cks:~$
What does that mean?
Regards, Easwar
Easwar Hariharan wrote:
easwarh@l1nuxr0cks:~$ dmesg|grep MSFT [ 0.000000] ACPI: DSDT (v001 ATI AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000e) @ 0x00000000 easwarh@l1nuxr0cks:~$
What does that mean?
That means your Differentiated System Description Table has been compiled with Microsoft implementation. So says http://enkryptix.com/ankit/?p=50
Good article there.
Easwar Hariharan wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Debarshi Ray debarshi.ray@gmail.com wrote:
We work around it but is the BIOS not the culprit in such cases? I am not saying that GNU won't load on these machines.
GNU will not load on *any* machine - you need a kernel for that
As a matter of fact, GNU *does* load, and I happen to use a couple of such machines.
You didn't get it,Kenneth is differentiating between GNU which is the Application layer and Linux which is the kernel,but now let's not get into flamewar territory.
Sorry but you didn't get it. GNU is a concept, an ideology, not just an operating system.
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:10:56 +0530 Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
|Sorry but you didn't get it. GNU is a concept, an ideology, not just an |operating system.
Seriously? GNU is an operating system [0]
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Kartik Mistry kartik.mistry@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:10:56 +0530 Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
|Sorry but you didn't get it. GNU is a concept, an ideology, not just an |operating system.
Seriously? GNU is an operating system [0]
From that site, the first paragraph "The GNU Project was launched in 1984 to
develop a complete Unix-like operating system which is free softwarehttp://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html: the GNU system."
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Rony Bill gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Kartik Mistry kartik.mistry@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:10:56 +0530 Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
|Sorry but you didn't get it. GNU is a concept, an ideology, not just an |operating system.
In this context,GNU was being referred as an OS,not as a concept or ideology.You can't load a concept or ideology on a computer,can you? ;)
Regards, Easwar
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Easwar Hariharan meindian523@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Rony Bill gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Kartik Mistry kartik.mistry@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:10:56 +0530 Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
|Sorry but you didn't get it. GNU is a concept, an ideology, not just
an
|operating system.
In this context,GNU was being referred as an OS,not as a concept or ideology.You can't load a concept or ideology on a computer,can you? ;)
I was referring to my usage of the term GNU.
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:16:51 +0530 "Rony Bill" gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
|> In this context,GNU was being referred as an OS,not as a concept or |> ideology.You can't load a concept or ideology on a computer,can you? ;) |> |I was referring to my usage of the term GNU.
Dear Rony,
You have made my day!
On 26-Mar-08, at 8:10 PM, Rony wrote:
You didn't get it,Kenneth is differentiating between GNU which is the Application layer and Linux which is the kernel,but now let's not get into flamewar territory.
Sorry but you didn't get it. GNU is a concept, an ideology, not just an operating system.
so you are trying to load a concept and an ideology? It wont work. You need an operating system and a kernel: either GNU + Linux (which the faithful refer to as GNU/Linux or GNU + Hurd (which the faithful refer to as GNU or *BSD These terms have been long ago defined and accepted. Please stick to them. (unless you are deliberately trying to create trouble - in which case go ahead)
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 26-Mar-08, at 8:10 PM, Rony wrote:
You didn't get it,Kenneth is differentiating between GNU which is the Application layer and Linux which is the kernel,but now let's not get into flamewar territory.
Sorry but you didn't get it. GNU is a concept, an ideology, not just an operating system.
so you are trying to load a concept and an ideology? It wont work. You need an operating system and a kernel: either GNU + Linux (which the faithful refer to as GNU/Linux or GNU + Hurd (which the faithful refer to as GNU or *BSD These terms have been long ago defined and accepted. Please stick to them. (unless you are deliberately trying to create trouble - in which case go ahead)
GNU=LibreSoftware. Whether it is an OS or an application. You are free to draw your own conclusions.
GNUCash, GIMP, GPG, GNU/Linux etc.
On 25-Mar-08, at 1:43 PM, Debarshi Ray wrote:
GNU will not load on *any* machine - you need a kernel for that
As a matter of fact, GNU *does* load, and I happen to use a couple of such machines
with which kernel?
GNU will not load on *any* machine - you need a kernel for that
As a matter of fact, GNU *does* load, and I happen to use a couple of such machines
with which kernel?
With the GNU kernel -- Hurd.
Cheers, Debarshi
On 26-Mar-08, at 10:22 AM, Debarshi Ray wrote:
GNU will not load on *any* machine - you need a kernel for that
As a matter of fact, GNU *does* load, and I happen to use a couple of such machines
with which kernel?
With the GNU kernel -- Hurd.
in that case it is correct to say GNU loads.
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