Hi!
I recently submitted my proj synopsis, over which the examiner was not at all impressed (spacing,indentation,et al...)
We had done the thing in Microsoft Word format ( I used Star Office while my colleagues Microsoft Office )
I researched a little and found out that groff and Latex are great doc formatting (typesetting ?) tools. Also I discovered that mostly Latex is preferred over groff. Now I've learnt Latex a little. However the pdf file I create (with the help of dvips and ps2pdf) looks very crappy in acrobat reader. Ghostview however displays the thing quite well. Is this normal? Has anyone tried Latex and stuff ?
Most probably we would print the project on a Windows machine ( i guess very few DTP vendors have Linux as of yet :( ). One of my friends told me that pdf files do not print quite well as compared with Microsoft Word files. Is this correct? I'm in a fix. I'm beginning to like Latex. But at the same time I would not like to face problems with the printing and stuff.
Has anyone made his/her synopsis/report/article in Latex ? Is there any other good doc formatting system? Please guide
Thx Nikhil
Hi there,
I myself need to get hold of somthing from which i can make my resume or a project report ( BE :-p ) . and need to get hold of some begineers guide to text formatting.
However i found this link. it seems to have plenty of tips but i have hardly gone throught them.
http://www-h.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/textprocessing/makingWWWdocs.html
regards rahul
On Friday 13 December 2002 22:37, you wrote:
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Hi!
I recently submitted my proj synopsis, over which the examiner was not at all impressed (spacing,indentation,et al...)
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Has anyone made his/her synopsis/report/article in Latex ? Is there any other good doc formatting system? Please guide
Thx Nikhil
On Dec 15, 2002 at 01:48, Rahul Saxena wrote:
I myself need to get hold of somthing from which i can make my resume or a project report ( BE :-p ) . and need to get hold of some begineers guide to text formatting.
Search Google for lshort.pdf.
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Rahul Saxena wrote:
I myself need to get hold of somthing from which i can make my resume or a project report ( BE :-p ) . and need to get hold of some begineers guide to text formatting.
Hi! found this : http://www.tug.org.in I guess this is a more proper place to discuss Tex
Nikhil
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Nikhil Joshi wrote:
formatting (typesetting ?) tools. Also I discovered that mostly Latex is preferred over groff. Now I've learnt Latex a little. However the pdf file I create (with the help of dvips and ps2pdf) looks very crappy in acrobat reader. Ghostview however displays the thing quite well. Is this normal? Has anyone tried Latex and stuff ?
use pdflatex instead of latex. It will convert it to pdf file, which will be of much better quality.
And printouts from Adobe Acrobat are as good as that from MS Word.
hth Hemang Ajmera
Nikhil Joshi wrote:
Has anyone made his/her synopsis/report/article in Latex ? Is there any other good doc formatting system? Please guide
http://pi.wien.rhno.columbia.edu/Computers/
That's my computer. I have a lot of stuff there about Computer Science in general. There are also files also devoted to TeX and LaTeX. It might help you.
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 10:37:11PM +0530, Nikhil Joshi wrote:
I researched a little and found out that groff and Latex are great doc formatting (typesetting ?) tools. Also I discovered that mostly Latex is preferred over groff. Now I've learnt Latex a little. However the pdf file I create (with the help of dvips and ps2pdf) looks very crappy in acrobat reader. Ghostview however displays the thing quite well. Is this normal? Has anyone tried Latex and stuff ?
This is normal I suppose. But if you create pdf using "pdflatex" then it will be ok.
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 10:37:11PM +0530, Nikhil Joshi wrote:
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Admin: Can we put a newline after the header? It sticks right on top of the original message currently.
We had done the thing in Microsoft Word format ( I used Star Office while my colleagues Microsoft Office )
If you want to allege that either of these tools are bad at document creation, then I don't agree with you. MS Word has a really really wonderful document model just as any self-respecting word processor should have, and one can indeed make good reports in it.
I researched a little and found out that groff and Latex are great doc formatting (typesetting ?) tools.
Go for LaTeX ... look for a file called "lshort2e" ... the short introduction to LaTeX edition 2.
If you really feel adventurous, try Docbook-XML :-) Then you can publish your documents in any format - LaTeX, ps, PDF, HTML, RTF, text, etc.
I create (with the help of dvips and ps2pdf) looks very crappy in acrobat reader. Ghostview however displays the thing quite well. Is this normal?
Use pdflatex.
Has anyone tried Latex and stuff ?
All sane people publish their reports, papers, articles etc using LaTeX or related tools. Don't worry, you are on the right track! :-)
Most probably we would print the project on a Windows machine ( i guess very few DTP vendors have Linux as of yet :( ). One of my friends told me that pdf files do not print quite well as compared with Microsoft Word
Simply not true. PDF and ps files can print anywhere ... that's what they are meant for! In fact, the ".prn" file created for most printers is in fact PostScript, and can be renamed to ".ps"
Sameer.
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote:
We had done the thing in Microsoft Word format ( I used Star Office while my colleagues Microsoft Office )
If you want to allege that either of these tools are bad at document creation, then I don't agree with you. MS Word has a really really wonderful document model just as any self-respecting word processor should have, and one can indeed make good reports in it.
yep, I guess Word or for that matter any WYSIWYG tool is great for casual/short editing needs. However for real stuff like books/thesis/report you have to resort to Latex like tools
If you really feel adventurous, try Docbook-XML :-) Then you can publish your documents in any format - LaTeX, ps, PDF, HTML, RTF, text, etc.
ummm... XML I have vague idea that it is some kinda markup language having more features than HTML. I have no idea what is Docbook Can you please enlighten me ?
All sane people publish their reports, papers, articles etc using LaTeX or related tools. Don't worry, you are on the right track! :-)
Thank God :)
Nikhil
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 04:01:57AM +0530, Nikhil Joshi wrote:
ummm... XML I have vague idea that it is some kinda markup language having more features than HTML. I have no idea what is Docbook Can you please enlighten me ?
All sane people publish their reports, papers, articles etc using LaTeX or related tools. Don't worry, you are on the right track! :-)
Thank God :)
Why God? Thank Donald Knuth (for TeX) and Leslie Lamport (for LaTeX) instead!
Sameer.
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 03:28:57PM +0530, Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote:
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LaTeX or related tools. Don't worry, you are on the right track! :-)
Thank God :)
Why God? Thank Donald Knuth (for TeX) and Leslie Lamport (for LaTeX) instead!
Yeah, Thank Gods!
;-)
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote:
Admin: Can we put a newline after the header? It sticks right on top of the original message currently.
Done... HTH...
With regards,
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:37:11 +0530 (IST) Nikhil Joshi wrote:
Has anyone made his/her synopsis/report/article in Latex ? Is there any other good doc formatting system? Please guide
Many folks sure do that. I used to think of MS Word as the greatest piece of software till I had to write my Dad's 200+ page thesis. Even with styles, maintaining consistency was a pain. I bought a fat book on MS Office 2000 to figure out how to do the heavy-duty stuff but I couldn't even generate a ToC, which only requires a \tableofcontents in LaTeX!
I prefer output in PDF format since it's ready to display/print, there are nice readers available for PDF and PDF docs can be sent to Windows users too, since they more often than not have Acrobat installed.
Googlize "Essential LaTeX++" and "lshort.pdf" to get started.
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On Friday 13 Dec 2002 10:37 pm, Nikhil Joshi wrote:
Has anyone made his/her synopsis/report/article in Latex ? Is there any other good doc formatting system? Please guide
Here, at IIT ( and probably other places like TIFR, IISc ), LaTex is the most commonly used means of writing articles/reports/journal papers, and even presentations!
It's very mature. Much more than anything else. And yes, you can use tools like Kile, lyx to help you.
- -- jaju
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Nikhil Joshi nikhil_joshi@gmx.net writes:
preferred over groff. Now I've learnt Latex a little. However the pdf file I create (with the help of dvips and ps2pdf) looks very crappy in acrobat reader. Ghostview however displays the thing quite well. Is this normal? Has anyone tried Latex and stuff ?
The problem is with the fonts. The default fonts on Unix are not very well supported by Adobe. But you can use a font package like helvetica (for serif fonts) by \usepackage{helvet} and your document will look equally fantastic in both gv and Acrobat Reader. There are other fontpackages too.
Most probably we would print the project on a Windows machine ( i guess very few DTP vendors have Linux as of yet :( ). One of my friends told me that pdf files do not print quite well as compared with Microsoft Word files. Is this correct? I'm in a fix. I'm beginning to like Latex. But at the same time I would not like to face problems with the printing and stuff.
M$ Word is one totally unreliable package when it comes to typesetting. I have had the misfortune of using it extensively for typing out a number of thesis & projects. PostScript is a system developed especially for printing and final output. And it works exceeding well.
Has anyone made his/her synopsis/report/article in Latex ? Is there any other good doc formatting system? Please guide
LaTeX is the best of the free world - Acrobat is eXcellent but eXpensive. But there are a number of "user friendly" frontends on both Unix and win32 platforms which sit on top of LaTeX. LaTeX has a steeper learning curve but it is very fast when you are done with the basics.
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