hi, did anyone of you get added to a google group relating to cyber crimes without asking by sysnse1@rediffmail.com?
Hi,
On 10/26/05, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@thenilgiris.com wrote:
hi, did anyone of you get added to a google group relating to cyber crimes without asking by sysnse1@rediffmail.com? -- regards kg
yep
Regards Nikhil
yup. While it qualifies as spam itself I would say that the news reported are good.
C
On 10/26/05, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@thenilgiris.com wrote:
hi, did anyone of you get added to a google group relating to cyber crimes without asking by sysnse1@rediffmail.com? -- regards kg
http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க!
On Wednesday 26 Oct 2005 7:39 pm, Chetan S wrote:
yup. While it qualifies as spam itself I would say that the news reported are good.
so good guys are alllowed to do bad things?
On Thursday 27 Oct 2005 1:14 am, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 13:52, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
hi, did anyone of you get added to a google group relating to cyber crimes without asking by sysnse1@rediffmail.com? -- regards kg
No. I got added by someone @rediffmail.com (dont remember the id). I deleted the email...
but you are still subscribed - flame them
this is not the first time that there has been a mass subscription to members of this list - i think the listadmins need to explain why the membership of this list is public.
Sometime Today, KG cobbled together some glyphs to say:
did anyone of you get added to a google group relating to cyber crimes
yes, reported as abuse to google groups. if more people report it, he may be banned.
On Wednesday 26 Oct 2005 7:56 pm, Philip Tellis wrote:
Sometime Today, KG cobbled together some glyphs to say:
did anyone of you get added to a google group relating to cyber crimes
yes, reported as abuse to google groups. if more people report it, he may be banned.
he should be banned
On Thursday 27 Oct 2005 1:38 am, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
of SPAM. My other gmail account sees even more traffic but I never get SPAM on that one. It's even older than this one. How is it that spam bots are able to harvest our email ids? I thought the email ids were removed while archiving the content for online viewing!
flame ilug-mumbai list admins
On Wednesday 26 Oct 2005 7:35 pm, Nikhil Prabhakar wrote:
Hi,
On 10/26/05, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@thenilgiris.com wrote:
hi, did anyone of you get added to a google group relating to cyber crimes without asking by sysnse1@rediffmail.com? -- regards kg
yep
and did you report to googlegroups and flame them?
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
hi, did anyone of you get added to a google group relating to cyber crimes without asking by sysnse1@rediffmail.com?
Ya.
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On Wednesday 26 Oct 2005 9:44 pm, Rony Bill wrote:
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
hi, did anyone of you get added to a google group relating to cyber crimes without asking by sysnse1@rediffmail.com?
Ya.
did you flame them and complain to googlegroups?
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
did you flame them and complain to googlegroups?
I reported on the google abuse link and then unsubscribed.
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Rony.
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On Wednesday 26 October 2005 13:52, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
hi, did anyone of you get added to a google group relating to cyber crimes without asking by sysnse1@rediffmail.com? -- regards kg
No. I got added by someone @rediffmail.com (dont remember the id). I deleted the email...
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 14:20, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
but you are still subscribed - flame them
this is not the first time that there has been a mass subscription to members of this list - i think the listadmins need to explain why the membership of this list is public.
Could you give me the unsubscription link? And ever since I started using my gmail account with this mailing list I have been getting a lot of SPAM. My other gmail account sees even more traffic but I never get SPAM on that one. It's even older than this one. How is it that spam bots are able to harvest our email ids? I thought the email ids were removed while archiving the content for online viewing!
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 14:05, Nikhil Prabhakar wrote:
Hi,
On 10/26/05, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@thenilgiris.com wrote:
hi, did anyone of you get added to a google group relating to cyber crimes without asking by sysnse1@rediffmail.com? -- regards kg
yep
lets flame them! =P
On 10/26/05, Devdas Bhagat devdas@dvb.homelinux.org wrote:
On 26/10/05 19:39 +0530, Chetan S wrote:
yup. While it qualifies as spam itself I would say that the news
reported
are good.
Spam is about consent, not content.
Devdas Bhagat
right. The contents are good the consent was absent hence qualifies as spam.
C
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:50:48 +0530, "Kenneth Gonsalves" lawgon@thenilgiris.com said:
this is not the first time that there has been a mass subscription to members of this list - i think the listadmins need to explain why the membership of this list is public.
We cannot stop people from registering, membership of this list needs to be public. As for protection against spam, should we consider any pipermail alternative?
Anurag
On 27/10/05 12:28 +0530, Anurag wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:50:48 +0530, "Kenneth Gonsalves" lawgon@thenilgiris.com said:
this is not the first time that there has been a mass subscription to members of this list - i think the listadmins need to explain why the membership of this list is public.
We cannot stop people from registering, membership of this list needs to be public. As for protection against spam, should we consider any pipermail alternative?
Uh, why should the membership be public? The subscription for needs to be, but member list can be admin only.
Devdas Bhagat
On Thursday 27 Oct 2005 12:28 pm, Anurag wrote:
We cannot stop people from registering, membership of this list needs to be public.
why? i noticed that in yahoogroups, the membership list can only be accessed only by the list admin and that the email addresses of members are not shown in the archives also
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:46:49 +0530, "Kenneth Gonsalves" lawgon@thenilgiris.com said:
why? i noticed that in yahoogroups, the membership list can only be accessed only by the list admin and that the email addresses of members are not shown in the archives also
Oh, okay.. i meant list subscription is open to all, but subscribers list is only available to administrators. Tell me if you can access it without authentication?
Anurag
I went to my Google account settings. It showed me that I was a member of this Cyber Crime group. There was an option there which said "Do not allow administrators to automatically add you to the group." or something like that. I simply enabled it and unsubscribed. Now I guess it'd work because I'm using Gmail. Not sure about others...
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On Thursday 27 October 2005 07:38, Anurag wrote:
Oh, okay.. i meant list subscription is open to all, but subscribers list is only available to administrators. Tell me if you can access it without authentication?
I dont know how but people are able to harvest the email addys of this list. I started getting spam on this email address only AFTER i had subscribed to this list. The same was the case with hotmail. Remember i changed my email from hotmail to gmail because of the SPAM issue?
There might be some misconfiguration, some vulnerability in the system which allows non users (or even regular users) to access the membership list. Please check it from you part...
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Devdas Bhagat wrote:
Uh, why should the membership be public? The subscription for needs to be, but member list can be admin only.
The email links are coming from the text of the reply messages. In the message above the original sender's name appears but in many cases the email address appears in place of the name. Is there any common setting that members coould use in their email clients so that only the name appears?
Regards,
Rony.
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Sometime on Oct 27, DJ cobbled together some glyphs to say:
There might be some misconfiguration, some vulnerability in the system which allows non users (or even regular users) to access the membership list. Please check it from you part...
If I were a spammer, I'd go for the cheapest option to harvest emails. I would subscribe to this list in digest mode and scrape the mails I receive. Can't stop that.
Note: This is a test mail
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:46:43 +0000, "Dinesh Joshi" dinesh.a.joshi@gmail.com said:
There might be some misconfiguration, some vulnerability in the system which allows non users (or even regular users) to access the membership list. Please check it from you part...
Dinesh, i do not see any misconfiguration in mailman. The only vulnerability i could see is display of complete email addresses in the pipermail archives. I've edited pipermail to mask user's domain name part behind a masking domain. let's see if it works.
Please note that this list is also archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in/ Some intelligent spammer can harvest emails addresses from there also.
Anurag
On Friday 28 October 2005 17:19, Anurag wrote:
Dinesh, i do not see any misconfiguration in mailman. The only vulnerability i could see is display of complete email addresses in the pipermail archives. I've edited pipermail to mask user's domain name part behind a masking domain. let's see if it works.
Please note that this list is also archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in/ Some intelligent spammer can harvest emails addresses from there also.
Great. But it wont do any good for me as I am already on some spam lists.... Lets hope new members benefit from this.
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