> From: Ranjit Babu <d0153019(a)ncb.ernet.in>
>Subject: [Fsf-web] Free Software Directory
>I don't know how many people actually are subscribed to this
>assuming there is a sizeable number, I'd like to suggest we start
>a directory for free software in India.
>Frederick Noronha's article would be a great place to start
>I have a few pages ready with those he has listed; these are on
>of the directory built at www.gnu.org.
>We also need to add search capability to this. Volunteers?
I hereby volunteer to help build the free software directory for
On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 10:16:38PM +0530, Gopal.V wrote:
> Hi Arun & Nagarjuna,
> I'm sending this in hope that the "wavy" logo on the Forum
> gets kicked out. That seems to be a bit to weak for a logo for
> such a strong movement.
> Khuzaima suggested that the logos be in red as it reflects
> a revolution -- I had sent him a set of fluidly colored images,
> which came back with the reply "too feminine".
> So this is what I have got -- please put in if you like it.
This looks good. Could you move the `F' a little closer to `r'.
We had discussion on GNU Art works for FSF India and we got
Seems that no suggestions came for page design.
Can some one come up with a simple template we can use ?
Not with much colors or graphics. Any volunteers ?
Also we can up load the projects page and other informations.
On Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 05:00:43PM +0530, Gopal . V wrote:
> If memory serves me right, Nagarjuna G. wrote:
> > I have updated the site with the new logo sent by Gopal. We need
> > to work on the stylesheet to get matching colors with the title.
> > Do have a look. Should I send the announcement?
> Please put some extra space around that logo I sent.
> By doing a canvas size (put the new size align the image in center).
> I've done just that now. The image was cropped close in the earlier
> case, so that the size may be less.
I have put the image that you have sent, after we decide the
logo we need to adjust the space anyway.
The footer at the bottom should be simple, something like:
Powered by Squishdot running on GNU/Linux
Instead of the logos.
Two things would help to make a website to look and feel
The GNU project's philosophy has been content instead of looks.
To achieve this, both text and images should functionally or
non-functionally be a part of the content.
Text could be made Indian by greeting a visitor with a
'Namaskaar' followed by a standard 'Welcome to the Free ....',
projects could have Indian names, like Naba Kumar's Anjuta
and Raju Mathur's VishwaKarma.
Images should be used as sparingly as possible. I don't think
we want to make another one of those Indian portals having
images all over for no reason.
Some pages could contain random images of places/festivals
around the country with a small description of the image.
These images would be contributed by hackers from their own
city/state. Thereby encouraging involvement. Such images would
be put only in pages that are the most viewed instead of all
It would be boring to have (fsf|gnu).org.in to be running
phpnuke/slash/squish/zope and the likes.
I volunteer to built the (fsf|gnu).org.in website, both
backend and frontend.
Could someone in the Board or close to it please maintain
a offsite list of the tasks at hand and the volunteers working
My views on the FSF-I logo and logos in general.
Logos are for easy identification of an entity.
A Logo is similar to a brand. It needs time for people to
associate a logo with an entity. The artwork of a logo must
be such that it can be presented in all kinds of media.
The most tricky and expensive is the print media. There are
very different rules for offset multicolor, digital, screen,
block printing, etc. The logo should not loose it's correctness
and preferrably also it's effectiveness. There should not be
a dependency on color. The GNU head as it is works well for
The GNU head will almost never be used alone.
It will be accompanied with the name
'Free Software Foundation of India', on letter heads,
visiting cards, brochures, flyers, etc.
The Linux penguin doesn't have 'Linux' and 'http://www.linux.org'
as a part of it's logo, nor do most logos. It was just a matter
of time that people associated the penguin with 'Linux'.
Making the name of the organisation a part of the logo artwork
is not necessary. The name in a small font size serves no purpose
when the name will appear again somewhere around it.
We have a handsome and well known logo. The more we use it as it
is the better it's for us.
Clarity, correctness and simplicity should be the mantra.
Think about it.
All discussion about the website development is now on the fsf-web
list. Please see the archives for status.
As of now there is no official coordinator. I would think that
Nagarjuna would be the best person for that role.
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:03:49 +0530, Arun M <arun(a)freedevelopers.net> wrote:
> Hi Akber,
> Ranjit, and Khuzaima works on the site development. You can get more
> information on the status from them.
> Ranjit, Khuzaima:
> Akber is a web app developer and willing to help in the development
> of FSF India site. Seems that we now have a good number of volunteers
> for the development efforts. BTW who is coordinating the efforts ?
Khuzaima A. Lakdawala
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 05:59:22PM +0530, Khuzaima A. Lakdawala wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 14:58:28 +0530, Arun M <arun(a)freedevelopers.net> wrote:
> > I am fwding it in case i forget to upload the file(was thinking of doing
> > it for days ;).
> It's available here:
> The question is should we link to it directly from the front page for
> now? Or should we first create an index of projects? I remember
> Dr. Nagarjuna telling us about a web application he has made for the
> Mumbai LUG site which automatically generates links based on
> sub-directories etc. Can we use something like that to handle the
> projects directory?
I need just half an hour to do this, but you have to wait till
the end of this month.
I request all of you not to address me Dr. or Prof.
If there are no further objections to the Gnu-Peacock combination,
Gopal, can you put your artistic hat on again and come up with a draft
artwork for the logo?
Ideally, it should be some kind of outline artwork (with a transparent
background perhaps?) without any dependence on colour.
Khuzaima A. Lakdawala
Following is the draft of the announcement, If it is fine we can
post it today.
---------------- We request all of you consider writing articles
for discussion on our http://forum.gnu.org.in, which is our
ejournal for FSF-India. Presently only Khuzaima's article is
posted. This is a moderated site. Doesn't mean that difference
of opinion will not find place. We request authors to use this
journal for statements substantiated by facts and reasons.
Content that is likely to arouse emotions should find least
space, if not no space. This doesn't mean that articles should
not have provokative function. But it is also possible to make
provocative arguments within the scope of positive critique.
Also suggest the kind of categories that we should have on this
ejournal of FSF-India. Some examples are: Generalia, News,
WhitePapers, Standards (Licenses, etc.), Philosophy, Proposals,
eeducation, egovernace, localization, Agenda, Development, ...
After we hear from all, we will order them in not more than ten
clear categories or so.
Let us also start a thread here to arrive at guidelines for
editing so that the editor will keep these things in mind while
approving articles and comments. We will also keep the
guidelines available so that contributors could go through them
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 06:10:31PM +0530, Gopal.V wrote:
> If memory serves me right, Nagarjuna G. wrote:
> > I looked at the logo. Usually it is not a good idea to use serif
> > font. The intercharacter distance is too much, you can reduce
> > that and see how it looks. The oval could be little closer.
> Requested changes made, sending it offlist to reduce crowding
> BTW, I think you should announce that the Forum is open for
> discussion on the main list. It will help keep the flamewars off
> the list ;).