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[FSFI-general@gnowledge.org: New general Membership request]
by Nagarjuna G. 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

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Re: [pravi.a@gmail.com: Re: fsf india website]
by Nagarjuna G. 07 Jul '07

07 Jul '07

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Re: Fsf-web Digest, Vol 29, ( General membership form issue)
by Omshiva prakash 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

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Moglen's visit details
by Nagarjuna G. 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

If Moglen is giving any public talks any where in India, please announce them in the mailing list at fsf-friends(a)gnu.org.in. also send that to fsf-web(a)gnu.org.in, so that it can also be posted on FSF India's website. I saw one such post, but could not figure out in which city is he doing that? Nagarjuna

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Fwd: fsf's drupal
by Nagarjuna G. 03 Jun '07

03 Jun '07

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Fwd: [Info-gplv3] Why Upgrade to GPLv3 and "Last Call" Draft
by Nagarjuna G. 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

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You should also get your employer (if you work as a programmer) or your school, if any, to sign a "copyright disclaimer" for the program, if necessary. Here is a sample; alter the names: Yoyodyne, Inc., hereby disclaims all copyright interest in the program `Gnomovision' (which makes passes at compilers) written by James Hacker. <signature of Ty Coon>, 1 April 1989 Ty Coon, President of Vice For more information on how to apply and follow the GNU GPL, see http://www.gnu.org/licenses. The GNU General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into proprietary programs. If your program is a subroutine library, you may consider it more useful to permit linking proprietary applications with the library. 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Associate fellowships
by James Mathew 30 May '07

30 May '07

I just now got a few requests(all spam) for professional and premium and general fellowships. This seems somewhat strange as only general memberships are open now. I don't understand how the spammer got access to the application form for Premium & Prof memberships. (may be he guessed the node numbers -94 & 95) James -- HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!

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[Fwd: New general Membership request]
by Nagarjuna G. 17 May '07

17 May '07

you may also have noticed, the form is being abused. can we take some precaution to ensure this will not repeat again. -- Nagarjuna G. gnu.org.in Free Software Foundation of India

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Problem with website
by James Mathew 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

I had a small discussion recently with Anurag regarding relaunching of Premium and Professional fellowships. According to what he said, drupal keeps forgetting the user accounts, and prevents him from editing the pages. Any idea what to do? James -- HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!

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gnu.org.in
by Nagarjuna G. 20 Mar '07

20 Mar '07

the website is down due to apache problem on the server which got injection of a worm. we made an alternative machine on which the required software is already installed. I request the volunteers to coordinate among themselves to put the sites up and running as soon as possible. please write to anurag and prasanta to get the access details . since fsf india site is very crucial to remain up all the time, please spend some time every week, inspect the log files for any spurious activity and keep it running. Nagarjuna

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