If anybody is having trouble downloading RedHat
Fedora, the community side of the recent split in
the Red Hat product line, it is mirrored at AsiaOSC,
our mirror in Malaysia.
Download it here:
http://mymirror.asiaosc.org/redhat/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/iso/
or read the full article here:
There seems to be a problem with many Red Hat mirrors -
it seems Red Hat has deliberately made Fedora outside
their normal ftp structure, to make it clear to the public
that it's not 'just another Red Hat release'. The
downside of this is that all mirrors are likely to have
to edit their sync scripts, so the project will take
longer than usual to appear on mirrors.
Imran William Smith
imran(a)imran.info / iwsmith(a)mimos.my
Asian Open Source Centre, Malaysia
http://www.asiaosc.org
To,
Mr. V D G Krishnan
President & CEO
LL2B.COM Pvt Ltd
Dear Mr. V.D.G. Krishnan,
> The message copy received by me is not clear to me.
First a pointer to where we are: Please visit
http://gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2003-October
Ofcourse, we are now in November, but I have given you last month's
archive address so that you will find your mail listed there at the
bottom, and you can relate to what is happening around.
>On our part, we have developed a e-governance and e-transparency solution
>which is now under trials at Electronics Corporation of Tamilnadu (ELCOT),
>Govt. of Tamilnadu Undertaking. This tool is expected to bring in total
>transparency and speed to the working of the Govt. We hope it will be
>adopted as a tool by the Govt. of Tamilnadu.
>
>You can visit WWW.LL2B.COM for the preliminary details.
e-governance and e-transparency solutions are most welcome. But then,
the solution itself should also be free, open and transparent. The
philosophy section at http://www.gnu.org explains free software. Law
itself is public, free and open in nature. Our Supreme Court had the
occasion in Naresh v. State of Maharashtra [AIR 1967 SC 1] to consider
the merits of open and public trials for "healthy objective and fair
administration of justice," and quoted Bentham with approval as follows:
"In the darkness of secrecy, sinister interest, and evil in every
shape, have full swing. ... Publicity is the very soul of justice.
It is the keenest spur to exertion, and the surest of all guards
against improbity. It keeps the Judge himself while trying under
trial in the sense that the security of securities is publicity."
The principles laid are equally true for governance. Without free
software, it is hard to even imagine a e-governance software.
But, I am personally wary of using the expression "e-governance software".
The law is the common background for all human activity. Besides
governance, law operates upon a large area. Governance is specially
grouped under the heading Constitutional Law and Administrative Law. We
have Law of Contracts, Torts, Law of Property, Family Law, Labour Law
etc. wherein "governance" is minimal or even totally absent. If an
application can handle Constitutional Law and Administrative Law, then
there are no reasons why it should not handle the Law of Contracts or
the other laws. We have people designing "banking software", "insurance
software", "billing software", as though the law has these water tight
compartments. We have ERP, CRM, B2B, B2C, G2G, G2B, etc. etc, with
others promising to integrate ERP with CRM, CRM with the rest in all
possible permutations and combinations. It makes business sense but no
legal sense.
Can any e-governance software check constitutionality of code? If they
can't, then they better not call themselves by such a name.
Besides, consider the following:
Suppose an e-governance application wants to assist litigants in filing
plaints. While automating preparation of plaints, some issues arise.
If more than one plaintiff sues, the script should use "plaintiffs"
otherwise, "plaintiff". In appeals, for the same reason it chooses
between "appellants" and "appellant". Soon, a function that would give
the plural for singular nouns like applicant, petitioner, claimant,
defendant, and respondent becomes necessary. This exercise soon takes
one to examining the rules of English grammar. If an application can
handle legal rules well, then it might handle rules of English grammar
as well. But the most singular difficulty would be in listing the rules
of English grammar. Tamil has Agathiam (the primary grammar text, but
no longer in vogue) > Tholkappiam (Secondary text, based on Agathiam),
and > finally the recent Nanool, where everything from how letters are
formed, classified, pronounced, to usage, root words, verbs,
concatanation, and every thing necessary to use the language are dealt
with thoroughly. Assuming that after consensus, acceptable rules of
English grammar for the present are available, we could write functions
such as:
function get_plural($singlular){
// returns plural for a given singular
....
}
To write a perfect get_plural function, we need to know if the word
passed to the function is a noun or not. Now, we have to write
function is_noun($word){
// returns if word is a noun
....
}
As you see, one thing leads to another, and soon we will have a large
library of functions that deal with many aspects of English grammar.
Then our scripts will write well, and may be read well too.
Once we write such a library, there is no reason why this should be
confined to just an "e-governance" application. We could use it even
better in the field of education or wherever English is used.
Consider another scenario.
Recently, an ONGC helicopter crashed into the sea near Mumbai, and an
Enquiry has been ordered into it. The survivor & eye witnesses reported
that the helicopter went into a spin before crashing into the sea. It
is well known that the tail propellor prevents a helicopter from
spinning. Did the tail propellor fail? We see that the enquiry soon
has to deal with the basic workings of an helicopter to arrive at the
truth for the cause of the accident. Though at the top level, things
look like "e-governance", as we go deep, we find ourselves into the
thick of rules of English grammar, the laws of aerodynamics, history, or
other fields of human knowledge.
Ancient sages dealt exhaustively on grammar, philosophy, ethics,
medicine, law, science and literature single handedly. Agathiar wrote
Agathiam creating a script for Tamil, codifing the rules of grammar, and
then dealt with medicine [Paripooranam 400], and initiated Girivalam, as
the simplest form of yoga, that could be practiced by one and all.
Agathiar is believed to have brought his first love, River Cauvery, to
Tamil Nadu. Well, then he might have organised the flow of the River
with the aid of the local kings. Patanjali wrote upon Sanskrit Grammar,
Ayurveda and Yoga, and though the works stand distinctively, a common
thread unites them. A unity at some point is required for scientific
progress and human prosperity.
Free software offers all the tools we can ask for. The next big step
would be when human knowlege is ported across so that software
applications abound with life, intelligence and wisdom.
Regards,
K. Ramanraj.
Apologies for replying so late.
>On our part, we have developed a e-governance and e-transparency solution
>which is now under trials at Electronics Corporation of Tamilnadu (ELCOT),
>Govt. of Tamilnadu Undertaking. This tool is expected to bring in total
>transparency and speed to the working of the Govt. We hope it will be
>adopted as a tool by the Govt. of Tamilnadu.
>
>You can visit WWW.LL2B.COM for the preliminary details.
>
>
>
>(044) 5211 5995
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ramanraj K" <ramanraj(a)md4.vsnl.net.in>
>To: <fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:57 PM
>Subject: [Fsf-friends] Celebrate with free software
>
>
>
>
>>Dear Countrymen,
>>
>>There is perhaps no other nation that remembers and celebrates freedom
>>as much as we do. Diwali reminds us about the the end of the cruel
>>demon, who finally wished that we rejoice his gory conquest and the
>>triumph of freedom, with sweets and festivities. Free software is yet
>>another reason we have to celebrate, not once a year but every moment
>>of consciousness. It heralds in an era when we can find freedom from
>>the modern day demons of corruption, concoction, commission,
>>collection, concession, capitation, congestion, cunningmen,
>>chickenmen, and cynicalmen. We could call all these together as c10n.
>>This is c10n - version 1.0, updates are welcome!
>>
>>Regards,
>>K. Ramanraj.
>>
>>
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Is there not good professionals or firms who can provide
Free/Open-source based solution using smart card? If any one knows,
please let me know or if there is some other mailing list or
News-group for such firms/vendors, which may provide service in North
India, I would like to know that.
Why I am asking this? Following is the reason. One State Government
issued open tender for such a project to be implemented for all
technical Institutions in the state. As per my knowledge, no one is
there with Free/Open-source based solution. All are M$ based. I would
like to take up the issue with State Government, but only if some one
is there who can provide such a solution.
--
H.S.Rai http://www.grex.org/~hsrai | Registered Linux User # 223684
http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=223684
Try to get all of your posthumous medals in advance.