Fsf-friends January 2005

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To open software within three years
by Manjush G.Menon 26 Sep '05

26 Sep '05

Original Message ----- From: "IT@School" <itschool(a)asianetindia.com> To: <manjushmenon(a)hotmail.com> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:08 PM Subject: Reply > Mr.Manjush G. Menon > We are not giving to depend totally on Ms. Products. Rather MS > Office is taught along with open office and Windows along with Linux > from this year. Arranging the resource persons for training an open > software, making available the software, the maintenance of a help desk > etc. are logistical issues which could not be immediately undertaken. > We plan switch out to open software within three years. > Executive Director > ---- Original Message ----- From: Manjush G. Menon To: itschool(a)asianetindia.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 5:46 PM Subject: Respected sir, From Manjush G. Menon, Sr.Programmer, Sofker Solutions Pvt Ltd, Kochi-18. To The Executive Director, 'IT @ SCHOOL' Project, SCERT Buildings, Poojapura, Thiruvananthapuram-12. Respected sir, SUB: In protest against the inclusion of products from multinational companies in the syllabus of 'IT @ SCHOOL' It's a very dissappointing fact that when the whole world is moving towards Free software, we at kerala are going behind a major MNC - Microsoft. I hereby register my protest in such an act from 'IT @ SCHOOL' Project team. Breaking of prototypes will definetly help us in finding economical and high quality products for our future generation. For students and programmers, the GNU Linux contains 'GNU Compiler Collections' which includes C, C++, FORTRAN, PERL, TCL etc. Also, for DTP and other publishing purposes, it includes GNU Office utilities like Abi-Word, gedit, and other worksheet utilities, all these with a nominal cost of Rs 700-800/-. The software as it is, is free and the cost is accounted towards the media (CD + Documentation) included. By this letter, I urge you to take this matter seriously and suggest necessary modifications in the action plan of 'IT @ SCHOOL' project. Wishing you all the best and wishing all 'Students @ SCHOOL' a bright future, Thanking you, Yours faithfully Manjush G. Menon. ______________________________________________________ Check out all the latest outrageous email attachments on the Outrageous Email Chart! - http://viral.lycos.co.uk

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An interesting site
by Praveen A 12 Feb '05

12 Feb '05

PHOENIX Physics with Homemade Equipments & Innovative Experiments Phoenix is a cost effective, fast and sensitive general purpose interface to do science experiments using a PC. The objective is to make science experiments more interesting and meaningful by employing methods and tools similar to the ones used in research labs. The hardware provides Analog and Digital Input/Output channels, Signal generators, Motor controls and Amplifiers. Parameters like velocity, temperature etc. can be digitized and measured with microsecond timing accuracy. The interface circuitry is packaged inside a small box with front panel connector sockets and connected to the parallel port of the PC. http://www.nsc.res.in/~elab/phoenix/ Regards Praveen A -- A proud GNU user http://www.gnu.org http://www.edathanattukara.com My Weblog at http://www.livejournal.com/users/pravi Visit me at http://www.pravi.tk Rediscover the web ! Get firefox at http://www.getfirefox.com Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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Some economic aspects of FOSS
by Praveen A 01 Feb '05

01 Feb '05

Yesterday we had discussions about the FOSS model and its various aspects. Tojin analysed the economic aspect and he says --- There are so many people working in the proprietary software industry and if there is only FOSS out there so many people are gonna lose jobs. Now both proprietary and free software needs service and so the effects cancels. The jobs of developers will not be there and the economy suffers. He argues that only if the money changes hands the country benifits. Also he thinks it is sinister about the way GNU/Linux is distributed, he says it has made so complx that they need to go to experts everytime. He is not thinking about the obvious advantages. In a country like India we cannot afford to pay a huge amount of money on softwares. They are completely ignoring the points of technical fitness of the software developed. They still think of the FOSS as something like this >> A company develops a product and give away that for free (download) and asks how the developers get money ? They completely ignores that FOSS is a process not a product in which lots of people around the world and it is centered around the end user. Other argument is that anyway we are getting windows and linux free (pirated in case of windows) and all things that could be done with windows can be done with windows and there is no point in moving away from windows. They don't think piracy is not a problem, as long as they don't come to you and arrest they think they are safe. It is like you don't hesitate to steal if you are sure you won't be cought. Also they neglect the social aspect (but the former point nullifies this). Anyway you are ready to give it to your friend so the social aspect doesn't matter anymore. the discussion continues .... Some one give me an answer to the economic aspect (the loss of jobs and affecting the economy) PS: You can join the discussion at LJ http://www.livejournal.com/~pravi/7240.html -- "There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels." A proud GNU user http://www.gnu.org http://www.edathanattukara.com My Weblog at http://www.livejournal.com/users/pravi Visit me at http://www.pravi.tk Rediscover the web ! Get firefox at http://www.getfirefox.com Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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[Fwd: [Fsf-tn] [GLV] February 5, 2005, AB - "Introduction toHacking GNU/Hurd"]
by Ramanraj K 31 Jan '05

31 Jan '05

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Fsf-tn] [GLV] February 5, 2005, AB - "Introduction to Hacking GNU/Hurd" Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:41:15 -0800 (PST) From: Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k(a)yahoo.com> To: Fsf-tn(a)gnu.org.in Greetings! Confirmation and announcement of the February 5, 2005 session (part of GNU/Linux Vidyashram) by Anand Babu on "Introduction to Hacking GNU/Hurd" at CSD#320, Electrical Sciences Block, IIT-M at 1300 HRS IST. You can view the poster from here: http://www.geocities.com/cyborg4k/anandbabu.feb.5.2005.pdf Looking forward to the session, K Shakthi ===== -------------------------------------------------------------------------- K Shakthi Specsoft (Hexaware Technologies), ASIC Design Center http://www.geocities.com/shakthimaan -------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ Fsf-tn mailing list Fsf-tn(a)gnu.org.in http://gnowledge.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fsf-tn

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IBM Challenges University Students
by Ramanraj 30 Jan '05

30 Jan '05

IBM Linux Scholars Challenge 2004 is a contest for University Students (Note: it is too late to register now) http://www.linuxuniversitychallenge.com/ But, if you are a Student, you would probably be interested in the challenges that are listed at: http://www.linuxuniversitychallenge.com/challenges.php?PHPSESSID=9de84d4cf3… ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Iqara Broadband Webmail : http://mail.iqara.net. Have any problem write to idc(a)iqara.net

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Sly -stories in Madhyamam
by Praveen A 30 Jan '05

30 Jan '05

Hi all, Today there was an article in Madhyamam daily (in special page -- I guess Kudumba madhyamam) about Sarath Lakshman and 'his' slynux [Linux is the trade mark of Linux Torvalds --who developed the linux kernel for the free (swathanthra) gnu syatem]. The writer's knowledge about Free Software and Linux is very pathetic. He saya Richard Stall man wrote Linux !!! It is a pity that he didn't go though the sites and learned what is free software and linux. There is nothing new in slynux (probaly malayalm fonts that knopper couldn't include). The writer says the mounting of windows partitions has become easy. It is easy in every other distributions too. All the features he calim for 'his' slynux is availabe with knoppix (transpond compression of 2 GB to 700 MB). For those who are in doubt check the knoppix site http://www.knoppix.org GNU/Linux has grown at a very rapid rate that it has come to a level as user friendly or even in cases more user friendly (you can install softwares from internet with a click) and inovative (Project looking glass, enlightenment ...) But people don't change easily and many stick to the windows-till-death attitude. Knoppix has all these features and it was there for a long time. Anyway one thing is that I really appreciate Sarath's efforts but the media's response has been really sickening. Of course it helped to spread the message of free software and GNU/linux (mistakenly used as linux -- which is only one of the many kernels available for the gnu system. It is like the engine of a car -- though most important, useless without other accessories). It is really a nice thing he has done, but what I'm criticising is the media. It is not his fault that knoppix already had all these options and nobody cared to look at it !!! I hope this publicity (though not the right thing) will have good effect on the masses about free softwares, especially among students. The thing is that, when you are writing something for the public, atleast think that some people will be out there who knows what he is talking about. For God's sake when write about something please read the basics !! Check the relevant sources -- "There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels." A proud GNU user http://www.gnu.org http://www.edathanattukara.com My Weblog at http://www.livejournal.com/users/pravi Visit me at http://www.pravi.tk Rediscover the web ! Get firefox at http://www.getfirefox.com Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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Re: query about gnu.org.in
by Anand Babu 28 Jan '05

28 Jan '05

,----[ Anand Avati <avati(a)quipus.org> ] | hello anand, i'm anand too :) saw your id on freehoo site while | submitting a patch.. how do i involve myself with gnu india? | Can i get an @gnu.org.in id too? :) `---- Please subscribe to fsf-friends mailing list. http://www.gnu.org.in/mailinglists.html GNU is a movement and it is the free software philosophy that drives us all. If you believe in it and want to help, you can consider yourself as a GNU volunteer already. How ever getting @gnu.org or @gnu.org.in mail-id depends on becoming an official maintainer for at least one GNU project or how much you volunteer for the FSF activities. We have a huge "wanted" list at https://savannah.gnu.org/people/ Please see where you can fit in. ,----[ Anand Avati <avati(a)quipus.org> ] | i tried digging info about it on gnu.org.in/help/ ... but while | registering a volunteer i hit a 502 ;) `---- I also found the link (Click Here for the old list of Volunteers) http://forum.gnu.org.in/fsf-volunteers/all_membersInd broken. Will ask the webmaster to fix it. BTW, Thanks for your patch, I applied it to CVS. -- Anand Babu Free as in Freedom <www.gnu.org>

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RMS talk at IIT-M on 7th Feb 2005
by Ramanraj K 28 Jan '05

28 Jan '05

Richard Stallman, founder and leader of the Free Software Foundation, will talk about the Danger of Patents on Ideas Used in Software, at the Central Lecture Theater (CLT), HSB, IIT-Madras, Chennai, on Monday, the 7th February, 2005, from 4.00 PM to 6.00 PM. All are welcome.

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Events, jobs, etc on linux-india.org
by Raj Mathur 28 Jan '05

28 Jan '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [Cross-posted] Hi, Work is going on to make linux-india.org a portal for all Linux/FLOSS-related activities in India. It contains many sections, and you can help increase the spread of your own interests by contributing to the site. You can publish the following kinds of information: 1. Events. If you are organising a Linux/FLOSS-related event in India, or know of one being organised, please make an entry for it in the Events Submission page (http://linux-india.org/index.pl?id=2941&isa=Category&op=show) You event will then be listed on the front page of the web site and get exposure to all visitors. I personally am trying to keep up with the event listing posted on these mailing lists and add them myself to the Events Calendar, but I may miss out on some events or post incorrect information. Much better if the organisers themselves put the correct information in. 2. Jobs If you're looking for people to work in a Linux/FLOSS related field, take a minute to fill out the Job Submission form at http://linux-india.org/index.pl?id=2942&isa=Category&op=show . This will allow your job to be listed on the web site, making it easier for people with the right kind of skills to find and respond to you. 3. News If you're aware of any Linux/FLOSS related news in India, please submit it on the web site at http://linux-india.org/index.pl?id=2940&isa=Category&op=show . The News administrator will review your posting and list it on the main news page. 4. LUGs/FSUGs/GLUGs Are you running or closely associated with a LUG/FSUG/GLUG? Send lugadmin(a)linux-india.org a quick mail with the name, nickname and URL of your LUG and we will be glad to add it to the LUG list at http://linux-india.org/index.pl?id=2198&isa=Category&op=show . Your LUG doesn't have a web site? No problems -- create a lug-<city> (or fsug-city/glug-city) account for yourself and make your web site on linux-india.org itself! Then mail your user ID to lugadmin(a)linux-india.org to have your local web site listed in the LUG list. There is no charge for any of these services. Most of the submission forms require a login, so do make an account for yourself on the web site. It's simple, quick and I guarantee that your login details will remain confidential, until you yourself choose to publish them. Feedback welcome. Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur raju(a)kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 <http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/> iD8DBQFB+eu7yWjQ78xo0X8RAuzHAJ9ikUndbUzYddgHRMjZ+m1V/iOjXgCdEWTf NT2+RidOpXV8oT0dIO95zTk= =f5yf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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FSF-TN Mailing List
by Ramanraj 27 Jan '05

27 Jan '05

Richard Stallman, founder and leader of the GNU Project and Free Software Foundation, will be inaugurating the Tamil Nadu Chapter of Free Software Foundation of India, at the Vellore Institute of Technology, on Sunday, the 6th February, 2005, at 9:30 AM and deliver the keynote address. All are welcome to the event, and more information about the inaugural function is available at http://www.swatantra.info One of the prime objectives of FSF-TN is to take free software closer to people in all the districts in Tamil Nadu, by organising meetings, events, demos, and user groups wherever possible. An open public mailing list to discuss and promote the adoption of free software in TN, has been started at: http://gnu.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fsf-tn Please volunteer to join fsf-tn and lend your support. -Ramanraj K ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Iqara Broadband Webmail : http://mail.iqara.net. Have any problem write to idc(a)iqara.net

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