Fsf-friends September 2005

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Re: [Fsf-friends] GRAB FREE P4 PC & DVD WRITER
by Archana.S.R 19 Sep '05

19 Sep '05

it can atleast have an OT tag :( On 9/18/05, RISKLESSRUPEES <adepu_vuttu(a)yahoo.co.in> wrote: > > > HOME BASED - EARNING SYSTEM > > > > No worry of big payments Earn and enjoy BIG > Income > > No Dollars Business Indian rupees only > > No Electronic Accounts Indian Bank Accounts > > No cheque Bouncing Only DD payments > > No Internet Bills Company work > for you > > No Ad placing, No online works, No tension of Soft wares, > > No.. No...No.. But how is it possible....?????????? > > And don't forget U will to get a P4 PC + DVD WRITER > > > > Mail to: adepu_vuttu(a)yahoo.co.in > > With the Subject: "Send Me More Info" > > Be sure to include in the mail body : > > 1. First name > > 2. Last name > > 3. Email address > > 4. Address > > 5. State > > 6. Telephone > > 7. Mobile No > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you! > > FIRST COME FIRST SERVE. > > IT IS YOUR DREAM AND OUR PLAN > > > > Sincerely, > > RisklessRupees Team > > [1]adepu_vuttu(a)yahoo.co.in <http://yahoo.co.in> > > References > > 1. mailto:adepu_vuttu@yahoo.co.in > _______________________________________________ > Fsf-friends mailing list > Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in > http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends > -- Archana.S.R.

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GRAB FREE P4 PC & DVD WRITER
by RISKLESSRUPEES 18 Sep '05

18 Sep '05

HOME BASED - EARNING SYSTEM No worry of big payments Earn and enjoy BIG Income No Dollars Business Indian rupees only No Electronic Accounts Indian Bank Accounts No cheque Bouncing Only DD payments No Internet Bills Company work for you No Ad placing, No online works, No tension of Soft wares, No.. No...No.. But how is it possible....?????????? And don't forget U will to get a P4 PC + DVD WRITER Mail to: adepu_vuttu(a)yahoo.co.in With the Subject: "Send Me More Info" Be sure to include in the mail body : 1. First name 2. Last name 3. Email address 4. Address 5. State 6. Telephone 7. Mobile No Looking forward to hearing from you! FIRST COME FIRST SERVE. IT IS YOUR DREAM AND OUR PLAN Sincerely, RisklessRupees Team [1]adepu_vuttu(a)yahoo.co.in References 1. mailto:adepu_vuttu@yahoo.co.in

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GRAB FREE P4 PC & DVD WRITER
by RISKLESSRUPEES 18 Sep '05

18 Sep '05

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Birthday Calendar
by Baishampayan Ghose 17 Sep '05

17 Sep '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sarath, > Please click on the link below and enter your birthday for me. I am creating a birthday calendar > for myself. Don't worry it is quick, and you don't have to enter your year of birth:-). > http://www.birthdayalarm.com/bd2/53584795a643611255b767494430c569054343d905 This type of mail is totally off-topic here. Please don't post such mail from on. We have better work to do than remembering our own birthdays, leave alone others, and it's not that we care. Regards, BG - -- Baishampayan Ghose Free Software Foundation of India b.ghose at gnu.org.in -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDK6kIQkk0lIY2G3QRAo0TAKCbXBsCGHZnBX4m09NCRd6p7CfzPgCdGQT2 +R1WdI3rh8L8NuHVmAL59sE= =gc20 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Birthday Calendar
by Sarath Lakshman 17 Sep '05

17 Sep '05

Hi, Please click on the link below and enter your birthday for me. I am creating a birthday calendar for myself. Don't worry it is quick, and you don't have to enter your year of birth:-). http://www.birthdayalarm.com/bd2/53584795a643611255b767494430c569054343d905 Thanks, Sarath

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INDIA: FN'sEyeOnFLOSS *** Freedel on Sept 17/18 at New Delhi *** 09162005
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

................................................................ FN's Eye on FLOSS (Free/Libre and Open Source Software ........ ................................................................ IOSN COMES OUT WITH A PRIMER ON OPEN STANDARDS IOSN's open standards primer. * Download the primer: Open Document format (111KB) http://www.iosn.net/open-standards/foss-open-standards-primer/foss-openstds… * PDF format (485KB) http://www.iosn.net/open-standards/foss-open-standards-primer/foss-openstds… [</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>] MORE USEFUL URLs AND SOME CORRECTIONS TOO Thanks to Komal <agencies_ad1(a)sancharnet.in> for pointing out that the correct link for xfree86 is www.x.org and for the Linux documentation project is www.tldp.org (and not as rendered earlier). And thank you Prachee Agarwal <agarwal_prachee(a)yahoo.co.in> of the Lucknow LUG lucknow-lug(a)yahoogroups.com for responding with *your* favourite links: www.indlinux.org www.gentoo.org www.linuxiso.org www.linuxquestions.org ftp://ftp.funet.fi Just shows how *everyone* benefits when something (information, code) is shared! [</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>] HOW-TO, ON TALKING THIS TIME... COURTESY PUNE Kanti Jadia <j_kanti(a)rediffmail.com> sent across this useful tip from PLUG, the Pune GNU/Linux Users Group, which explains *how to talk* http://plug.org.in/articles/articles.php?howtotalk [</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>] NOVELL COMES OUT WITH SOLUTIONS FOR INDIAN TONGUES AD (Andi) Marshall, out there in Vietnam, admarshall(a)gmail.com draws attention to this link, which says: "Novell is introducing Indian language versions of its Suse Linux distribution, according to an executive of the company..." COMPLETE STORY: http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,1ur7,1,dvc6,kevq,9a65,aayy IndLinux guru Guntupalli Karunakar <karunakar(a)freedomink.org> responds, to say: "Surprisingly, it doesnt mention Punjabi as supported, when Punjabi is most well supported language on any distribution, while Malayalam where l10n effort is slow pending resolution of Malayalam Unicode issues finds place. Maybe they were trying to be different ;)" [</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>] DELHI PLANS AN AMBITIOUS FREEDEL MEET, WITH LOCAL CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE Raj "Raju" Mathur <raju(a)linux-delhi.org> of ILUG-Delhi announces Freedel to be held on September 17/18 2005, 10:00AM to 6:00PM at PHD House, Hauz Khas, New Delhi. Two full days of demystifying [GNU]Linux. PHDCCI and India Linux Users Group - Delhi (ILUG-D) are behind the event. Says Mathur: "ILUG-D in the past has conducted very successful events where over 450 participants attended. This year we are expecting much greater numbers. People from all walks of life are expected to attend; students, professionals, corporates, all will be there. What's more, ILUG-D will have something to show for everyone. Technical talks covering issues from installation, to desktop usage to wireless [GNU]Linux, it will all be there. We will even have young school kids showing how they use [GNU]Linux. Its an event you don't want to miss!" Several stalls showcasing various aspects of Linux from gaming, to audio/video editing to development, servers, databases and applications. The event is organised by ILUG-D and co-hosted by PHD Chamber of Commerce and Industry. It is completely volunteer-driven and supported by several organisations. The event is primarily driven by volunteers of ILUG-D and a committed group of computer professionals from PHDCCI. Apart from all the technical stuff happening, there will also be T-shirts, Linux distributions on CDs, tea, snacks and all the elements of fun available at low or no cost. Be there, be counted! Contact: Raj Mathur raju(a)kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ [</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>] THOSE FREE CDs IN YOUR HAND, THEY'RE ACTUALLY WORTH MILLIONS Value of Debian GNU/Linux. The paper Measuring Libre Software studying the size of the source packages in Debian 3.1 calculates the size of sarge (close to 230 million lines of source code), the use of the various programming languages in which the software has been written, and the size of the packages included in the distribution. It also estimates cost to create something on the scale of Debian from scratch with a classical and well-known cost method (COCOMO) to be over 8 billion US dollar. http://www.upgrade-cepis.org/issues/2005/3/up6-3Amor.pdf Source: Debian Weekly News http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2005/37/ [</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>] IT'S NEW: A WIKI FOR THE FLOSS COMMUNITY IN INDIA Praveen A <pravi.a(a)gmail.com> has launched a new wiki for the Free/Libre and Open Source Software community in India. See http://fci.wikicities.com [</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>] AN EXPAT WHO CAN, AND PLANS TO, BUILD BRIDGES Adi Alurkar <adi(a)sf.net> is an Indian expat who could be one of those to build useful bridges. He announced on ILUG-Goa -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa -- recently that he manages all the database related responsibilities for SourceForge.net and will be visiting India shortly. Aditya (Adi) is India between Oct 21 and Dec 9 and says that "during this visit I'd like to meet and chat with like minded folks and see how SF.net could help the F[L]OSS community in india better". He will be visiting family in South Maharashtra and South Gujarat, looks forward to getting feedback on how FLOSS is "taking hold in the Indian subcontinent" and wants an "excuse" to come to Goa, the place where he was raised and graduated (from Chowgule College). You're welcome mate! [</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>] FOSS.TV, WHAT'S THAT? JUST TAKE A PEEP Navin Dhanuka <dhanukanavin(a)gmail.com> has meanwhile gone ahead with FOSS.tv Says Navin, "Feedback about FOSS.tv is good as of now. Let's see if I can set it rolling soon." If you want to help him, just go for it. Hint: you need software of the video kind. To find out more about Navin, go to http://www.navin.ind.in [</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>]o[</>] Copyleft -- verbatim copying, with credits -- allowed/encouraged. -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Independent Journalist Goa, India | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 ------------------------------------------------------------- 1995-2005: Ten years of waiting for community radio in India! To know more: https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/cr-india You can help: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/comradio/petition.html

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No marks for Free Software?
by Ramanraj K 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

In Indian philosophy, marks are very ancient and well known - creation and life itself began with a mark, which is symbolised by lingam. "Lingam" itself merely means "mark". Religious marks are quite easy to understand and use: at a single glance, you could easily distinguish between people professing various beliefs and faiths. Trade marks also serve an useful purpose in distinguishing between products and services, and the various classifications within it. At a time when the free software community should be encouraging the use of marks that easily identify free software, we find a strange development that may only discourage people from using the marks more freely. Are there no marks for free software? Without freely usable marks, free software will end up as a big zero. As a newbie, I struggled hard to see the connection between RedHat, SuSE, Mandrake, and the others. They all had "Linux" written on it somewhere, that gave me a solid clue that they are all probably belonging to the same genus, and after digging into it, I even managed to get to gnu, fsf and gpl. It is odd that the free software community could produce tomes of free software, yet not have even one standard solid graphical mark to identify itself in simple uncomplicated ways. There is no confusion with FreeBSD: they have a nice list of logos, and a clear guide to help people on using them. Some logos are also available under a "beer-ware" licence :) http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/share/examples/BSD_dae… GNU was conceived by RMS and Linux by Linus (or the sys admin who named the dir linux ruling over freix name suggested by Linus, who was then too modest to name the kernel after himself). Though the currently available free gnu os is named and called "GNU/Linux", there is no graphic mark that could be uniformly applied to all distros. In the spirit of the movement, there should be atleast one logo that FSF, OSDL, OSI and all the others who contribute code could agree upon to be used either freely or upon payment of a token fee or formal permission. It would be a good idea to start this as a separate project and even see if this could be a source of revenue to sustain the free software community. HTH. -Ramanraj K "suksmavisayatvam ca alinga paryavasanam" - Patanjali "The subtlest level of nature is consciousness. When consciousness dissolves in nature, it loses all marks and becomes pure" - quoted from "Light on the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali", by B.K.S. Iyengar.

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Software Freedom Day
by Ramanraj K 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

It struck me that "Software Freedom" may mean several things, including the idea that people have the freedom to lawfully acquire and use any software they like. Perhaps, it is this meaning that should be higlighted on Software Freedom Day in future, so that it may be celebrated by one and all in a spirit of brotherhood. Recognising the freedom to use any software we like would also mean that all have a chance to be treated alike, and no person would be criticised for his individual choice of software. I feel this may become increasingly apparent in the days to come.

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Fwd: success--in viewing maharashtra's electoral rolls in the open source firef
by krishnaact 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

--- In eGovINDIA(a)yahoogroups.com, Kush <kushkaran@f...> wrote: Hi all, I am trying to see the results for the electoral rolls from http://203.199.16.205/msd/ or any other district except "Mumbai city" in the open source web browser known as firefox. Unfortunately there is a need to install a font called DVBW-TTSurekh available from http://www.maharashtra.gov.in/fonts/fontsHelp.php specifically http://www.maharashtra.gov.in/fonts/bin/Dvbwsr0n.ttf (For windows machines-- this has to be copied into the windows\fonts directory whereas for linux its to be copied into the user's home directory's .fonts directory ie ~/.fonts) and the following lines at the beginning of the source page of the result need to be added (which only a person with a little knowledge of html and a text editor would be knowing) <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> Then only the results are seen properly. THERE IS NO NEED FOR A CDAC PLUGIN AT ALL--something which has been made mandatory for all visitors so that they only use microsoft's Internet explorer. The results were deliberately not working except for "mumbai city" which is the elite section of maharashtra because the results page had a missing meta tag as above. Only search results generated from mumbai city were working because this meta tag was generated correctly for them. this affected search results for all districts other than "Mumbai city" including Mumbai Suburban and Pune. Once the tag is properly generated in each resulting page, any browser (netscape, opera, mozilla etc) can view the results. This is another way that a premier GOVT agency like CDAC helps propagate Microsoft and its products in preference to what is good for the country by forcing the layman to use microsoft products and showing that there is no other way to get IT work done. Regards, Kussh --- End forwarded message ---

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INDIA: Useful GNU/Linux links... [Courtesy: http://ilug-cochin.org/cool_links.htm]
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

************************************************************************* Chennai LUG has a great wiki going there! http://www.chennailug.org/wiki/Main_Page ************************************************************************* 1. The GNU Homepage. http://www.gnu.org/ 2. The GNU philosophy. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ 3. What is free software ? Know it more http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html 4. kernal.org Linux kernel archives http://www.kernel.org/ 5. Linux.org: The official linux page. http://www.linux.org/ 6. Linux.com: The flagship Linux site. http://www.linux.com/ 7. Linuxlinks.com A Linux portal http://www.linuxlinks.com/ 8. Linuxberg.com Download Linux s/w http://www.linuxberg.com/ 9. Linuxmall.com Linux mall on the net http://www.linuxmall.com/ 10. Linuxworld.com Linux news http://www.linuxworld.com/ 11. Linuxjournal.com Linux Magazine http://www.linuxjournal.com/ 12. li.org Linux international http://www.li.org/ Indian Linux Users Group Cochin Chapter The Cochin chapter of Linux India is run by GNU/Linux enthusiasts in and around Cochin. 13. Slashdot.org: News for nerds. http://www.slashdot.org/ 14. Freshmeat.net http://www.freshmeat.net/ 15. xfree86.org http://www.xfree86.org/ 16. The Linux Documentation Project. http://www.linuxdoc.org/ 17. The GNU General Public License (GNU GPL). http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html 18. ANSI Escape Sequences. http://www.evergreen.edu/user/serv_res/research/bsi/people/dawn/program/ans… 19. The Linuxbox Network: Free hosting for your free software projects. http://www.linuxave.net/ 20. Linux Weekly News. http://www.lwn.net/ Dr Krishnan C N <cnkrish at au-kbc.org> iheading the National Resource Center on FLOSS housed in MIT, Anna University. This is a joint venture between Anna University and C-DAC. This group has been studying FLOSSt training aspect. ************************************************************************* ILUG-Goa's links * We welcome your participation! ************************************************************************* http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa ILUG-Goa's main friendly list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa-announce ANNOUNCE LIST http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teach-yourself-linux FOR NEWBIES http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linuxgoahelp TECH HELP LIST WEBSITES: http://ilug-goa.swiki.net http://www.ilug-margao.org *************************************************************************

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Fsf-friends September 2005