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Fwd: [hipatia] very very interesting Bertrand Russell
by Arun M 05 Jul '06

05 Jul '06

Here is a mail from a friend. .... It's a small book of Bertrand Russell written in 1917 titled "Political Ideals". http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/4776 It says very clearly very important things. It anticipates profetically themes that are tremendously important today. Some excerpts follow. <snip> We may distinguish two sorts of goods, and two corresponding sorts of impulses. There are goods in regard to which individual possession is possible, and there are goods in which all can share alike. <snip> There are two kinds of impulses, corresponding to the two kinds of goods. There are possessive impulses, which aim at acquiring or retaining private goods that cannot be shared; these center in the impulse of property. And there are creative or constructive impulses, which aim at bringing into the world or making available for use the kind of goods in which there is no privacy and no possession. The best life is the one in which the creative impulses play the largest part and the possessive impulses the smallest. This is no new discovery. The Gospel says: "Take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?" <snip> What we shall desire for individuals is now clear: strong creative impulses, overpowering and absorbing the instinct of possession; reverence for others; respect for the fundamental creative impulse in ourselves. <snip> Political and social institutions are to be judged by the good or harm that they do to individuals. Do they encourage creativeness rather than possessiveness? Do they embody or promote a spirit of reverence between human beings? Do they preserve self-respect? <snip> But security and liberty are only the negative conditions for good political institutions. When they have been won, we need also the positive condition: encouragement of creative energy. <snip>

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Any possibility of using Nokia 3120 as gprs modem?
by sandeep Kumar 03 Jul '06

03 Jul '06

Thanks Tinku, > There is an efficient and easy to use tool named ' GPRS Easy Connect ' to > get GPRS connection on GNU/Linux. You can download it from the following > link. > http://easyconnect.linuxuser.hu/ I downloaded it and am trying it out. But so far no luck. I have shared the results of my so far attempts and observed issues and HOPES (about phones mentioned by nokia as non modem ones) at - http://www.gprsec.hu/modules/forum/viewtopic.php?t=50 Any further feedback/suggestions from fsf friends are welcome. Raju: My non-nokia cable is detected by cp2101 (Silicon Labs) and pl2303 (Prolific) drivers not by ark116. But I am working with 2.6.17 now. There is a small issue though, if I load only pl2303 (that gets associated with ttyUSB0), "wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf" and "wvdial" (with handcrafted wvdial.conf) both result in segmentation fault due to some messup with EIP in "..... serial_open ... -> ... pl2303_open " leading to applications getting terminated with locks held and only way back to reloading the needed drivers successfully is after reboot. If anyone else experienced similar issue and resolved, it could save some time. In any case more clues always help. Could not get old ksymoops to help - perhaps some format difference b/w /proc/ksyms of earlier days and /proc/kallsyms now or some other issue - will check it out tonight. --- Sandeep ---------------------------------------------------- Want to know more about me? Check out http://www.geocities.com/shimple0 -- ______________________________________________ IndiaInfo Mail - the free e-mail service with a difference! www.indiainfo.com Check out our value-added Premium features, such as an extra 20MB for mail storage, POP3, e-mail forwarding, and ads-free mailboxes!

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Fwd: Summer Drupal training program in India
by Arun M 30 Jun '06

30 Jun '06

-- snip -- With 75,000+ Drupal power websites and an emerging industry supporting over 150 professionals, the open-source Drupal project and community is exploding. At the heart of this community is an incredibly active and productive group of contributors. Creating contributed modules, themes, bug fixes, and core enhancement, these individuals define the course of the Drupal project and the ecosystem of users, tinkerers, and professionals around it. Through this internship program we will attempt to train students from India the ins and outs of Drupal and help them established themselves as long term contributors to the Drupal project. Over two months the selected students will work closely with project mentors on real world Drupal projects; contributed modules, and core patches. They will learn the Drupal development process and gain extremely valuable experience interacting with a live open-source project. Students will be paid a stipend of 4,600 INR to 8,000 INR a month depending on the level of their contributions to the Drupal project. More Information: http://drupal.in/training -- snip --

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thoughts about increasing the spread of computing
by Kush 28 Jun '06

28 Jun '06

Hi all, If we look at the pc revolution and how it spread after the IC and microprocessors came into being, we would see that the following had a great effect on the PC phenomena. 1 --IBM came into the picture and its methods of mass producing or handling the distribution of quality items helped thru proper procedures and quality control processes 2 --a media which worked complementarily to the PC revolution (and helped advertise the social phenomenon) 3 --spread of software and hardware which met needs of small businesses which could then feel the prestige of owning a machine which was equivalent to the large corporation's multi million dollar machines. This led to much needed money/capital coming in. In the area of software for the common man and particularly software for small businesses which fueled the growth of the pc revolution by bringing in much needed money and absurd profits were the financial softwares. If open source or free software has to go beyond the researchers level and not be milked by existing corporations like microsoft, sun, IBM, Oracle etc (who just copy the code at no cost) there has to be accurate and good knowledge of application softwares particularly for the rapidly automating small businessmen of India in the tier 2 cities etc.. We need open rating systems (and impartial websites which are not market driven) for existing softwares in the field of point of sale systems and financial software. I came across these sites for rating such softwares (from the Toronto LUG mailing list) and maybe we could find others much better or complementary to them and have them put up on a wiki based website such as that of this group. http://linuxfinances.info/info/miscpersonalfinance.html http://www.linas.org ++ also another suggestion-- our fsf website URL needs to be put/added to each email from this list automatically in addition to the existing footer as below Kush _______________________________________________ Fsf-friends mailing list Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends

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this may be off topic but ..
by Kush 28 Jun '06

28 Jun '06

Hi all, I was wondering if the computing movement in India has some sort of plan for putting information on the web about computer pioneers and leaders etc in India or from India, who have done some amazing things or are doing amazing things in the field of computers or technology.(examples could be pioneers of the cdot rural exchange etc when cdot was formed) This would really help increase the number of people attracted to computers and open source computing (or free software ) by giving pride and recognition to the best in the field and also help bring some sort of community culture. We should build this as part of our folklore on the lines of the hacker culture in the elite US universities in the 70s etc. There is a site for amazing stories about India called www.goodnewsindia.com but it is too generalised and not technology related. I know atleast 3 stories of great work done by people of Canadian origin(RIm-- blackberry phenomena, QNX real time OS from waterloo univ, APL or J by Ken Iverson) but very little about Indian achievements (except Vinod Khosla's being one of the 4 who started Sun microsystems and Sabeer Bhatia who started hotmail). The germans, italians, french, chinese and the japanese and now even the south Americans, Korean etc take so much pride in being leaders in specialised areas of the open source movement whereas we don't hear much of our pioneers. Kush

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brand recognition for our computing pioneers--2
by Kush 28 Jun '06

28 Jun '06

Its so interesting to read history and hear folklore. Maybe you have come across the name below but it was news to me and quite a surprise to know about the India connection of this person. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Osborne We can only get more young and old people into technology related areas when history becomes a part of our daily life. Kush

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Any possibility of using Nokia 3120 as gprs modem?
by sandeep Kumar 28 Jun '06

28 Jun '06

Hi, Unfortunately I invested in Nokia 3120 for accessing internet via PC(I was/am looking for a non-camera and non-song phone for the purpose). Is there any way I can get it working as modem on Linux atleast? I have tried gnokii 0.6.12 on Linux kernel 2.6.16.2 and though slow, gnokii identifies 3120 successfully, though xgnokii seems to take ages to get contact details and often I have to kill the app. I am trying with (non-nokia) CA-42 cable to connect to phone, and have been successful in using Nokia PC-Suite to view contacts etc. on windows, but again no success in using it as modem. I don't know about the possibility of it, but is it possible that a software modem simulation module (if open source community or nokia themselves provides) can be developed that once downloaded and integrated with existing phone software allows nokia 3120 to be used as gprs modem? Regards Sandeep ---------------------------------------------------- Want to know more about me? Check out http://www.geocities.com/shimple0 -- ______________________________________________ IndiaInfo Mail - the free e-mail service with a difference! www.indiainfo.com Check out our value-added Premium features, such as an extra 20MB for mail storage, POP3, e-mail forwarding, and ads-free mailboxes!

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India picks up support for ODF
by Frederick Noronha 27 Jun '06

27 Jun '06

http://www.openmalaysiablog.com/2006/06/india_picks_up_.html India picks up support for ODF IndiaflagLast Friday, 23 June 2006 the India chapter of the ODF Alliance conducted a National Seminar on ODF in New Delhi. Quoting an article on the event: Welcoming this initiative and highlighting its importance in Indian IT Scenario, Chandershekhar, secretary, Ministry of Information & Technology, Government of India said, "We are glad to note that with formation of a National ODF alliance, India too would be playing a pivotal role in spearheading the ODF revolution. Further, considering the huge potential of eGovernance in the nation as well as the need to adopt open standards to make our data systems more inter-operable and independent of any limiting proprietary tools, we feel that ODF is a great technological leap and a big boon to further propel IT right to India's grass root levels. I congratulate this initiative of leading private & public organisations and wish them all the best in this endeavor." In another article in conjunction with the event, it was reported that several government departments in New Delhi have decided to switch over to ODF. Note that the India chapter of the ODF Alliance includes CDAC (Centre for Development of Advanced Computing) and IIT (Indian Institute of Technology). I have encouraged before that Malaysian organizations and companies join the ODF Alliance and I should say now that these include Malaysian institutions of higher learning. We already have a Malaysian ODF SIG (special interest group) of individuals, but when sufficient number of local Malaysian organizations group together as ODF Alliance members, a different kind of ODF grouping and support will surely emerge in Malaysia. Posted by Hasan on Tuesday, 27 June 2006 at 03:10 AM in Events, ODF, z Posts by Hasan | Permalink -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | fred(a)bytesforall.org Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 ---------------------------------------------------------- AsiaCommons' blog http://www.asia-commons.net/blog/39

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by sandeep Kumar 27 Jun '06

27 Jun '06

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Janabhaaratii seeks translators for Hindi, Marathi, Gujarati, Bengali, Malayalam...
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

Empanelment of translators & janabhaaratii Translation Workshop ________________________________________________________________________ http://www.janabhaaratii.org.in/janabhaaratii/page_gen.php?lang=en&body=/an… janabhaaratii project at C-DAC, Mumbai funded by Technology Development in Indian Language (TDIL) Group of Ministry of Communication &IT, Govt. of India is a community oriented Indian language initiative. We plan to bring computing power to non-English speaking people by translating the desktop menus, help messages, files, FAQ's, error messages etc of GNU Linux System in various Indian languages. To begin with – translations in the Hindi, Marathi, Gujarati, Bengali, Malayalam languages are planned. Through janabhaaratii project, we have already made available live CD's for these languages that one can use to input, edit, and display & print Indian language text easily. We would like to invite prospective translators who can contribute to this work on a payment basis. We will hold workshops to acquaint them with the following on 2nd Friday of every month: * Familiarity with Indian Language text processing using GNU/Linux platform. * Different kinds of translations & issues thereof. * Tools to support translations. We would also like to empanel translators for doing this task. In case you are interested Please fill the form & submit.

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