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[OT] Linuxense Internship program
by Rajkumar S 16 Jan '06

16 Jan '06

Linuxense currently has an opening for its internship program. This is open for those are doing final year B-Tech or MCA or a fresh pass out but hasn't yet taken a job. The work done during this program will be released under GNU GPL. This is a paid internship program of 1-2 months duration (depends on candidate's skill and knowledge). See more details at: http://www.linuxense.com/community/internship.xhtml raj

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Re: Fsf-friends Digest, Vol 33, Issue 10
by Mishi Choudhary 16 Jan '06

16 Jan '06

hi krishna tons of thnx for answering my questions,thgere re a few more as i understand if i develop a software licensed under gpl it implies that anyone else is allowedto copy it ,distribute it,modify it and do whatever is allowed to do as per gpl.then if i develop a software and a person x makes an exact copy of it and sells it for some priceand makes millions over it,hows it justified in that case? what have been the milestones in the history of free software movement? do all proprietary software have free software to copmete with? why should normal ppl like you n me be interested in free software when we never buy licensed software? Warm Regards Mishi Choudhary

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[Fwd: Confirmation for Amol Hatwar/Free Software Foundation showcasing at .ORG MELA at LinuxAsia 2006]
by Amol Hatwar 14 Jan '06

14 Jan '06

Hello all, I had submitted an application to book a Stall for FSF long-time ago. The co-ordinator says that we have a stall. I am sorry I couldn't inform everyone about this sooner as I was away from the Internet for about 10 days. Now a question. Where should FSFI's particiation plan be discussed? On this list or at fsf-delhi or a more discreet/temporary non-public unarchived list? Warm regards, ah

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[Fwd: Re: FSF-India presence in LinuxAsia]
by Sameer N Ingole 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

Dear members, Can anyone from FSF-India confirm the authorization for coordination to Alolita Sharma? I did not know Amol Hatwar requested for the stall or he got confirmation. He did not seem to have read the mail of confirmation. Does anyone on the lists have any idea about it? BTW we are sure to get the space for the stall at LinuxAsia. Please Advice. Regards, -------- Original Message -------- From: - Fri Jan 13 23:26:48 2006 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Message-ID: <43C7E9DC.80002(a)proscrutiny.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:26:44 +0530 From: Sameer N Ingole <strike(a)proscrutiny.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041020) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: asharma(a)technetra.com CC: atul(a)efyindia.com Subject: Re: FSF-India presence in LinuxAsia References: <43C7613F.9050006(a)proscrutiny.com> <43867.210.18.184.87.1137171132.squirrel(a)www.os3i.org> In-Reply-To: <43867.210.18.184.87.1137171132.squirrel(a)www.os3i.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Alolita, Amol Hatwar is one of our volunteers. He is currently out of station and I am not sure if he read your mail but in order to get confirmation I am going to ask people from gnu.org.in to authorize me for further coordination. As for what part of FSF, I would do everything that is needed and legitimate, to protect legal rights of FOSS contributers. Thank you for your reply. Regards, -- Sameer N. Ingole Volunteer Free Software Foundation of India --- Better to light one candle than to curse the darkness. Alolita Sharma wrote: >Hi Sameer, > >Thanks for your email. We have already confirmed a stall for FSF in the >.ORG Mela at LinuxAsia to a person named Amol Hatwar (amol(a)hatwar.org) >claiming to be representing FSF-India. However, we have not received any >confirmation from him to confirm FSF's presence in the .ORG Mela. > >Can you please let me know what part of FSF are you representing and who >is Amol Hatwar? I would like to get email from the main coordinators of >FSF India in order to ensure FSF is legitimately and well represented at >LinuxAsia. > >Look forward to receiving details from you. > >With best regards, >Alolita > > >>Dear Alolita, >> >>We are volunteers for FSF-India. FSF India is a non-profit organization >>committed to advocating, promoting and propagating the use and >>development of swatantra software in India. >> >>India chapter of FSF is planning to showcase GNU software which will >>mainly include GNU/HURD, GNU/Linux, GCC, GCJ and several other GNU >>software. For this display, we will need at least two PC (more is good). >> >>We are also planning to put GNU Books/Manuals, Free Software CDs, CDs >>with talks of FSF and GNU luminaries, T-shirts on sale if that is Ok. >> >>I would be greatful if you let me know the possibility and procedure of >>getting space/stall in .ORG Mela in LinuxAsia 2006. >> >>Regards, >> >>-- >>Sameer N. Ingole >> -- Sameer N. Ingole Blog: http://weblogic.noroot.org/ --- Better to light one candle than to curse the darkness.

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Re: [Fsf-delhi] FSF-India in LinuxAsia 2006
by Sameer N Ingole 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

> Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > >> Sameer N Ingole wrote: >> >> >>> Do you know anyone from organizing body of LinuxAsia? I want to get the >>> firm answer from them about the stall space for FSF India. Tomorrow >>> I am >>> going to talk to them on phone and if I don't get anything firm, on >>> Saturday I will go to their office in Noida. Printing posters have >>> to be >>> postponed till we get assurance for stall space. >>> >> >> Additionally, provide clear indications that the idea is to sell >> merchandise and whether the committee are ok with that. > Baishampayan, all, Can we get GNU books to put on sale on the stall so I will mention it in there. Should we sale CDs/DVDs or give-away? Should we sale T-shirts? If yes where and in how much time can we arrange them? (I have no Idea about where we can get T-shirts printed or how much time it will take to arrange things.) Please give your inputs Regards, -- Sameer N. Ingole Blog: http://weblogic.noroot.org/ --- Better to light one candle than to curse the darkness.

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FSF-India in LinuxAsia
by Sameer N Ingole 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

Hi All, Sorry for my previous post (subject: Re: [Fsf-delhi] FSF-India in LinuxAsia 2006). There have been some discussion going on whether to put some GNU stuff on sale on FSF-Delhi. I want to know how/when/where can we get GNU books/Manuals, T-shirts (with GNU messages/graphics) that we can put on sale in LinuxAsia? Regards, -- Sameer N. Ingole Blog: http://weblogic.noroot.org/ --- Better to light one candle than to curse the darkness.

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Re: Re: [Fsf-friends] Re: Fsf-friends Digest, Vol 33, Issue 7
by Krishna Pagadala 11 Jan '06

11 Jan '06

>Mishi Choudhary wrote: >>On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 Krishna Pagadala wrote : >> Likewise Free Software developers will produce what >> they need for themselves, it just so happens that the >> rest of soceity also benefits. Also Free Software >> developers will develop whatever we pay them to >> develop, just like everybody else. >yes of course however most of the software developers or anyone >for that matter is paid monetarily for him or her to survive This line of thinking is errorneous when it comes to thinking about Free Software. Out of necessity each one of us is partly a lawyer, a doctor, an accountant, or a software developer etc. The sum total of the knowledge that we have in those roles will dwarf any professional organisation and its output. The main problem with tapping such knowledge is transaction costs. Let me give you an example. I have to do my taxes in a few months, and I am planning to do it on my own by reading the tax code. I am sure there are many more people doing the same. Now imagine that all the people who are doing this were to somehow able to put their knowledge in a very accessible way to everybody who wants it. That would pretty much be Free Accounting movement. In this instance none "of the accounting developers" need to be paid "monetarily for him or her to survive" because that is not their profession, however if some of them are adequately compensated by the public then they will make it their profession. >i wish to ask that who is this "we" whose paying the > free software developers? By we I meant the general public who consume free software. >and is the money being paid enough in comparison to > what one can make by working for a proprietary > software developing company? This is not an issue because the expectation is that people will make a living by means other than proprietary software. Customization, selling services, or developing Free Software as a hobby, or because they want to make the product that they bought better etc.. I would recommend that you read FLOSS survey report http://www.infonomics.nl/FLOSS/report/ particularly free software developers motivations which can be found at http://www.infonomics.nl/FLOSS/report/Final4.htm DEMOCRATIZING INNOVATION by Eric Von Hippel http://web.mit.edu/evhippel/www/democ.htm or atleast some of his papers at http://web.mit.edu/evhippel/www/papers.htm if you dont have the time to read the whole book. >> It has been estimated thatsourceforge alone >> is equal to 1 Microsoft. >whats is sourceforge Sourceforge is a place where Free Software projects are hosted. http://sourceforge.net/ > in what terms and manner is it equivalent to one microsoft By the estimated amount of man-years spent on development of code. >pardon my very basic queries but i wish to understand > every bit and am a complete novice in this waiting > for a response It is my pleasure to answer thoughtful questions like yours. Please ask anymore questions that you might have. >Warm Regards Krishna >Mishi Choudhary ===================================== To Reflect, to Inspire and to Empower http://www.employees.org/~krishnap/ The great moral question of the twenty-first century is: If all knowledge, all culture, all art, all useful information, can be costlessly given to everyone at the same price that it is given to anyone -- if everyone can have everything, everywhere, all the time, why is it ever moral to exclude anyone from anything? -Eben Moglen --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.

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Re: Fsf-friends Digest, Vol 33, Issue 7
by Mishi Choudhary 11 Jan '06

11 Jan '06

hello everyone since i am new to all this and allof you seem to be pros can u please spare sometime to answer certain questions i have .i'll look forward to hearing from you all can you please explain the economic viability of using free software? how are the developers of free software adequately compensated? how big is free software in comparison to proprietary software? Warm Regards Mishi Choudhary

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Fwd: FSF Announces GNU Gnash - Flash Movie Player
by Anivar Aravind 11 Jan '06

11 Jan '06

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: John Sullivan <johns(a)fsf.org> Date: Jan 10, 2006 9:59 PM Subject: FSF Announces GNU Gnash - Flash Movie Player To: info-fsf(a)gnu.org Media Contact: Free Software Foundation <pr(a)gnu.org> Phone: +1-617-542-5942 Boston, Massachusetts, USA - Monday, January 9, 2006 - The Free Software Foundation announced today the addition of Gnash, the GNU Flash movie player and Firefox plugin, licensed under the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL). Gnash is a project to build a SWF version 7 compliant flash player with high-quality imaging. It is the most advanced free flash player that currently exists, and an important addition to the GNU project. The release of Gnash represents the achievement of one of the free software movement's high priority projects (see http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority.html). Rob Savoye, maintainer of Gnash, outlined details of the project and made a call for developer support, "Right now Gnash is playing more movies than any of the other free players. All ActionScript classes exist and work, but not all the methods of each class are fully implemented. With a few more developers, it could be reasonably complete in a few months." Features include: Runs as a standalone application - Gnash can run standalone to play flash movies. Firefox plugin - Gnash can run as a plugin from within Firefox and Mozilla. SWF v7 compliant - Gnash can play many current flash movies. XML Message server - Gnash also supports an XML-based message system as is documented in the Flash Format specification. High Quality Output - Gnash uses OpenGL for rendering the graphics. The home page of the project is at <http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/>. The Gnash development sources are accessible via anonymous CVS from <http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnash/>. The anonymous CVS services are provided by Savannah, a web front-end for hosting and maintaining project homepages, bug tracking, CVS, FTP, and mailing lists, running entirely on free software, without ads, for the entire community. Gnash development is being funded by PubSoft. PubSoft supports free software projects by connecting developers with funding <https://www.pubsoft.org/pubsoft.py/viewprojects>. About the Free Software Foundation: The Free Software Foundation, founded in 1985, is dedicated to promoting computer users' right to use, study, copy, modify, and redistribute computer programs. The FSF promotes the development and use of free (as in freedom) software - particularly the GNU operating system and its GNU/Linux variants - and free documentation for free software. The FSF also helps to spread awareness of the ethical and political issues of freedom in the use of software. Their Web site, located at www.fsf.org, is an important source of information about GNU/Linux. Donations to support their work can be made at http://donate.fsf.org. Their headquarters are in Boston, MA, USA. _______________________________________________ info-fsf mailing list info-fsf(a)gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-fsf -- Knowledge is power... share it equitably! http://www.gnu.org

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Reverse engineering in India
by Thejesh GN 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

The new amendment (1999) brought forth a few changes in the fair use provision pertaining to computer software. It added three new provisions in the Act in Section 52(1) (aa). The new provisions read: "(ab) the doing of any act necessary to obtain information essential for operating interoperability of an independently created computer program with other programs by a lawful possessor of a computer program provided that such information is not otherwise readily available; (ac) the observation, study or test of functioning of the computer program in order to determine the ideas and principles which underline any elements of the program while performing such acts necessary for the functions for which the computer program was supplied; (ad) the making of copies or adaptation of the computer program from a legally obtained copy for non-commercial personal use I have doubt with (ac). If I buy a software with the license prohibiting me from reverse engineering it. Decomposing it will become copyright infringement ? Any help with the point (ac) will be great. -- Thanks, Thejesh GN http://www.techmag.biz

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