Mahesh T. Pai wrote:
Ramanraj K said on Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 07:25:53PM +0530,:
I'll attend. We also need to present a memorandum.
Please take a look at http://puggy.symonds.net/~fsug-kochi/mass-memo.html
Mahesh, please point to links that describe the current curriculum for computer science for IT@School. History is repeating itself again, in TN now :)
While the Govt. of Kerala has provided the infrastructure required for IT@Schools, here in TN, Computer Science infrastructure _and_ teaching _may_ be handed over to proprietary concerns.
Elcot should be asked to do what Keltron has already done for Kerala:
<quote from www.keltron.org> Involved in the introduction of GNU History in curriculum of IT@School project. Involved in the introduction of GNU Linux Operating System to new Curriculum. Supplied Hardware with preloaded GNU Linux Operating system and other Applications to IT@ school project. Training in GNU LINUX platforms for government employees and other organisations Various training courses on GNU Linux and other free software tools Various training courses on GNU Linux and other free software tools like PHP, Perl, Python, MySQL, PostgreSQL etc. </quote>
The proposed program schedule of Elcot is at: http://www.elcot.com/ncce/prog-schedule.htm http://www.elcot.com/ncce/prog-schedule-day2.htm
<quote> Day 2, 25th September, Saturday, 2004 Venue : Hotel Trident Sheraton , Chennai 0930 to 1100 hrs International models in Computer Education Invited Presentations from 3 speakers of - INTEL / Microsoft / Apple </quote>
It should be interesting to hear about the plans the special invitees from Microsoft and Apple have in mind for our school children. The whole idea appears to be to _give_ information to the delegates and I am not sure if the program schedule seriously allows delegates to address on the issues within the allotted two half hours of "moderated open discussion".
Further, it has been reported that:
"Private companies in computer education have brought in the hardware, software and the staff to teach the course framed by the State Government. Thus the schools get the benefit of computer education without the government bearing any recurring expenditure. This is a model that other States are hoping to follow."
As you know, attempts like this in the US have been rejected as unethical and monopolistic.
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-276058.html?legacy=cnet http://news.com.com/2100-1001-808241.html http://www.defenselink.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/2004_Advisories/ADV_0402.htm
BTW, www.elcot.com has announced that: National Conference on Computer Education in Schools is being postponed & will be rescheduled to another date
I hope that the plans change as well, for the better :)
Meanwhile, we could send in a memorandum to the school authorities in TN, on the lines of your earlier memo to school authorities in Kerala, to pre-empt any decision allowing propreitary concerns to take over teaching of Computer Science.
Ramanraj K said on Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 06:31:17AM +0530,:
The proposed program schedule of Elcot is at: http://www.elcot.com/ncce/prog-schedule.htm http://www.elcot.com/ncce/prog-schedule-day2.htm
404!!!
BTW, www.elcot.com has announced that: National Conference on Computer Education in Schools is being postponed & will be rescheduled to another date
Obviously, even walls have eyes and ears!!!
Ramanraj, as you proceed with this, you will find even more strange events like such `postponments', and announcements. Do not be taken in by such tactics.
Remember, the sponsors of this event have experience at an international event, dealing with free software activists around the globe.
Mahesh T. Pai wrote:
[true state of affairs]
Mahesh, after reading your response, I was reminded of the words of two great saints:
"I have not conceived my mission to be that of a knight-errant wandering everywhere to deliver people from difficult situations. My humble occupation has been to show people how they can solve their own difficulties." - Mahatma Gandhi
Minds without Fear:
Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high; Where knowledge is free; Where the world has not been broken up into fragments by narrow domestic walls; Where words come out from the depth of truth; Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection: Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way into the dreary desert sand of dead habit; Where the mind is lead forward by thee into ever-widening thought and action-- Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake.
--Rabindranath Tagore
Mahatma Gandhi also said, "If, after the coming of Swaraj the people of India will keep on looking to the government for regulating every detail of their lives, then that Swaraj will be meaningless."
The Free Software Movement is one of the greatest Voluntary actions in recent history, that has brought in visible changes, and we can really hope that this sharing will lead us into the space of freedom Tagore could only dreamed of.
There are many hurdles, but they could be overcome. One problem is that we have too many competing education streams: State Board, Matriculation, CBSE, ICSE, along with others, and these divisions can easily dissipate any attempts to streamline the system of education.
Here, the Director of Matriculation Schools, under the Govt. of TN has proposed the inclusion of Computer Science as a subject for students from III Standard and X Standard, and the proposed syllabus is available at:
http://www.tn.gov.in/matric/default.asp
Traditionally, the Matriculation Schools in TN have good ifrastructure, teaching staff and curriculum. A lot of effort appears to have gone into preparing the matriculation school curriculum, and it is truly commendable that it has been made available online requesting for feedback to raise the standards of education.
Reading the material on CS reminded me of my days back in school. Those of us from CBSE schools can recall the SUPW Classes: Boys had EG - Electrical Gadgets and girls could opt for Sewing - where learning was by doing things. My first EG class started with "Properties of Magnets", and our teacher brought a couple of bar magnets to class and taught us that magnets have two poles - North and South, like poles repel, unlike poles attract, did a demo with the magnets, then passed the magnets around the class letting us try it. Later, electric bulbs, batteries, transformers, resistors and capacitors entered into the class: but all these were referred to only by their generic names and we were taught about their general properties. Brand or vendor names were used only to compare market prices, quality and suitability for use. [BTW, SUPW is short for Socially Useful Productive Work]
Magnets have another property: It is easy to "copy" and "make" a magnet by stroking. Sharing free software is as easy and lossless like sharing or making magnets. Students could be easily encouraged to share code and work together on projects.
I wish that the whole school curriculum is based and built around SUPW. Free Software is the way to go if we desire to have a society where children are taught to be independent, resourceful, productive, co-operative, rational, intelligent and socially responsible.
Computer Science is fairly mature, qualifies as a good vocational subject, and has evolved standards and specifications that are vendor neutral. Lessons taught under Computer Science should be given general titles like word-processing, spreadsheets, database management, operating systems, file management, programming etc. The matriculation syllabus needs corrections, and should use subject headings like "Database Systems" instead of "Microsoft Access", or "Word Processing" instead of "Microsoft Word".
Broadly, Computing could be taught at two levels: Upto 10th standard, it may be appropriate to teach "Computer Applications" - whereby students become proficent _users_ of computer applications: anything from graphical processing tools like gimp to word processing, spreadsheets etc, with an elementary grounding in programming through basic, bash [free software tool: bwbasic] and some scripting languages like javascript and php.
"Computer Science" may be suitable for higher secondary classes, where the focus could be on learning C, system administration and other aspects of the science with depths suitable for their level. Of course, free software philosophy highlighting the virtues of sharing and respect for ethical values could permeate every level.
Some of this was shared at the ILUGC list, and, we could also send feedback as requested by the Director of Matriculation Schools, even though we have crossed the due date, as the proposed syllabus is to be introduced only in stages from 2005, so that the Computer Science subject could be truly and honestly taught as a SCIENCE.
The Free Software Movement has contributed several thousand useful applications. With little effort from more volunteers, we could make the free software wealth reach everyone.
Thanks to the divisions in school systems, we have to repeat the exercise, wherever these bugs exist, until they are fixed :)
On Thursday 16 Sep 2004 10:02 am, Ramanraj K wrote:
Mahesh T. Pai wrote:
[true state of affairs]
Mahesh, after reading your response, I was reminded of the words of two great saints:
Particularly the verse by Tagore can be inscribed on our website. It applies so well to the ideals we are striving to achieve.
Nagarjuna
On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 06:31, Ramanraj K wrote:
Mahesh, please point to links that describe the current curriculum for computer science for IT@School. History is repeating itself again, in TN now :)
IT@School does not seem to have the curriculum at their website. I can see if I can get a hard copy which I can mail to you. http://www.education.kerala.gov.in/itschool/
Elcot should be asked to do what Keltron has already done for Kerala:
<quote from www.keltron.org> Involved in the introduction of GNU History in curriculum of IT@School project. Involved in the introduction of GNU Linux Operating System to new Curriculum. Supplied Hardware with preloaded GNU Linux Operating system and other Applications to IT@ school project. Training in GNU LINUX platforms for government employees and other organisations Various training courses on GNU Linux and other free software tools Various training courses on GNU Linux and other free software tools like PHP, Perl, Python, MySQL, PostgreSQL etc. </quote>
In a way, much of this was possible partly because Arun has close links with Keltron, and because there was somebody who was genuinely interested. We may not be so fortunate everywhere.
Wish you all success in Chennai.
V. Sasi Kumar wrote:
IT@School does not seem to have the curriculum at their website. I can see if I can get a hard copy which I can mail to you. http://www.education.kerala.gov.in/itschool/
Wish you all success in Chennai.
Thanks :)
Many of the ILUGC members including Suraj, Raman, Thiagarajan and Bharathi had the DEMO@Schools project to introduce free software in schools; and now that we have CS_SYLLABUS@Schools, we may only have to suggest changes to the proposed syllabus.
The major problem with most syllabuses is use of brand names, as prominent lesson headings attempting to teach computing principles and techniques in an unscientific, unethical and misleading way.
Using "Microsoft Access" as heading for lessons on databases is very misleading and wrong, particularly when many database concepts were developed by Universities, in a scientific manner, based on set theory taught under mathematics. Framing an appropriate curriculum for Computer Science should be fairly easy with online resources. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_science may be a good starting point. If children were taught about the properties of FOO_BAR Magnets, then, most children would wrongly associate the general properties of magnets with the commercial brand FOO_BAR. It is a little amusing that we have to request school authorities to teach Computer Science as a SCIENCE. I sincerely hope the anamalous situation is not as bad as the example FOO_BAR. [http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3092.html - thanks to Arky who pointed to the rfc on another occasion] :)
Dr. Nagarjuna wrote:
Particularly the verse by Tagore can be inscribed on our website. It applies so well to the ideals we are striving to achieve.
Please. Bringing in changes to the syllabus may be the shortest and easiest way to achieve the laudable objectives of the FSF-I.
Warm Regards, Ramanraj.