I attended the stake holders meeting in Mumbai at the Patent's office. The room was full of people, more than 80 people attended the meet. Of which about 30 were interested in the software issue. the rest of them are interested mostly in bioinformatics, chemical processes etc.
What gave me solace is that this is not an attempt to modify the law. So, status quo exists. software patents per se are not possible in India. However. what the office is doing is it prepared a draft of a Manual helping the inventors in how to apply for a patent. In that manual, there is an attempt to suggest how to exploit the 'per se' and apply for software patents in combination with hardware.
Due to several questions on this issue raised by several of us, and also due to written feedback submitted by quite a few others in Delhi meet, they are organizing a stake holders meeting in Bangalore later (in the coming three to four months period) where they are going to settle all the doubts and listen all the points of view.
The date of bangalore meeting is not yet announced. Meanwhile, chennai and kolkatta meetings are still going to be held before the bangalore meeting. It is a good idea to send our supporters to both these places, so that the officers must see that there is sufficient opposition to this manipulation.
I do hope that the folks at alternate law forum from Bangalore will not miss this meeting. In any case, we should all file written objections to the sections. I will send in another note the section numbers, and the objectionable sentences.
Nagarjuna
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Nagarjuna G. nagarjun@gnowledge.orgwrote:
I attended the stake holders meeting in Mumbai at the Patent's office. The room was full of people, more than 80 people attended the meet. Of which about 30 were interested in the software issue. the rest of them are interested mostly in bioinformatics, chemical processes etc.
What gave me solace is that this is not an attempt to modify the law. So, status quo exists. software patents per se are not possible in India. However. what the office is doing is it prepared a draft of a Manual helping the inventors in how to apply for a patent. In that manual, there is an attempt to suggest how to exploit the 'per se' and apply for software patents in combination with hardware.
Due to several questions on this issue raised by several of us, and also due to written feedback submitted by quite a few others in Delhi meet, they are organizing a stake holders meeting in Bangalore later (in the coming three to four months period) where they are going to settle all the doubts and listen all the points of view.
The date of bangalore meeting is not yet announced. Meanwhile, chennai and kolkatta meetings are still going to be held before the bangalore meeting. It is a good idea to send our supporters to both these places, so that the officers must see that there is sufficient opposition to this manipulation.
I heard Bangalore meeting is on 27th this month. Is it postponed?
Today I was discussing with praveen about organising a informal meeting in bangalore on next saturday. Lawrence, are you free on satuday ?
Vickram, can you organise a place either in Christ college or in St.Josephs?
Anivar
I do hope that the folks at alternate law forum from Bangalore will not miss this meeting. In any case, we should all file written objections to the sections. I will send in another note the section numbers, and the objectionable sentences.
Nagarjuna
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2008/8/8 Anivar Aravind anivar.aravind@gmail.com:
I heard Bangalore meeting is on 27th this month. Is it postponed?
Today I was discussing with praveen about organising a informal meeting in bangalore on next saturday. Lawrence, are you free on satuday ?
Lets meet on Saturday.
Vickram, can you organise a place either in Christ college or in St.Josephs?
I talked to Madhusudan and he has agreed to host it at BMS. He will try to get a hall, otherwise we will meet in a classroom or outside.
Register for the meeting at http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Say_No_To_Software_Patents
We should plan to have the document draft ready on the same day.
Cheers Praveen
it would be nice if we can meet after 4.00 pm , is it ok !!!??
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Praveen A pravi.a@gmail.com wrote:
2008/8/8 Anivar Aravind anivar.aravind@gmail.com:
I heard Bangalore meeting is on 27th this month. Is it postponed?
Today I was discussing with praveen about organising a informal meeting
in
bangalore on next saturday. Lawrence, are you free on satuday ?
Lets meet on Saturday.
Vickram, can you organise a place either in Christ college or in St.Josephs?
I talked to Madhusudan and he has agreed to host it at BMS. He will try to get a hall, otherwise we will meet in a classroom or outside.
Register for the meeting at http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Say_No_To_Software_Patents
We should plan to have the document draft ready on the same day.
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Dear Friends
The planing meeting on Software Patents was fruitful . Dr. Nagarjuna briefed the current situation through IRC we had a discussion on the hazards of software patents after it
Minutes of the meeting is uploaded in wikipage http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Say_No_To_Software_Patents
The Flowup Plans
1. Conduct a Candle Light Vigil to Say No to Software Patents on 23rd August in front of Townhall , Corporation Circle Bangalore . 2. Awareness Programmes on various places on 22nd 3. Approach Like minded groups like Alternative law Forum and Prepare a statement to submit at 27th meeting. 4. Approach IIM Bangalore to take a position 5. Ask Free Software Industry to take a position on 27th meeting
Anivar
Some Break thoughts
http://www.ipindia.nic.in/whats_new/stateholders_meeting_Delhi_24July2008.pd... Says
A separate meeting with the software industry will be held in Bangalore on 27th August, 2008.
Is it Different from Stake Holder Meetings happened in Delhi and Mumbai?
Also While looking at various comments Received for the Draft Manual (http://www.ipindia.nic.in/ipr/patent/manual.htm )
The most interesting quote i found is from Justice Krishna Iyer, retired Supreme Court Justice. He says "neither the controller nor the central government has authority or sanction of law to publish a manual of the kind put on the website".
I feel the Patent Manual is a step to overrule the decision of parliament through some kind of Notifications ( now a days govt is using notifications as a tool to push anti people policies. Recent examples are the notifications like EIA, CMZ etc)
Anivar
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.aravind@gmail.com wrote:
Some Break thoughts
http://www.ipindia.nic.in/whats_new/stateholders_meeting_Delhi_24July2008.pd... Says
A separate meeting with the software industry will be held in Bangalore on 27th August, 2008.
It seems the above quote now removed from the document.It is scary. Becausea lot of actions including yesterday's protest revolved around it. I will call patent office tomorrow and get the details
Anivar
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Nagarjuna G. nagarjun@gnowledge.org wrote:
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they are organizing a stake holders meeting in Bangalore later (in the coming three to four months period) where they are going to settle all the doubts and listen all the points of view.
The date of bangalore meeting is not yet announced.
Is the meeting being convened by the Patents Office? How is notification made available to the general public? I presume notification will be made available on this list.
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I will send in another note the section numbers, and the objectionable sentences.
Also where & how to file the objections would be helpful.
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