Linuxers December 2002

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squid proxy server problem
by tejinder saroha 27 Dec '02

27 Dec '02

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basic help
by rajeev rajpopat 27 Dec '02

27 Dec '02

Hi I have set up PCQuest Linux on my machine. The installation was smooth except for a hitch in seting up the modem. After some efforts I managed to get the modem to work. I am now looking for a book for the beginers - preferably in e form. Can someone suggest a site from where I can download the same. Thanks in advance Rajeev

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Motorola SM56 modem not detected and depmod error
by sameer shinde 26 Dec '02

26 Dec '02

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #750 - 14 msgs
by Rajiv S Banerji 26 Dec '02

26 Dec '02

........snip............. From: Jayesh Samant <samantjayesh(a)softhome.net> I am stuck with an Motorola SM56 internal modem, which works as a charm in windows. However my Redhat 8.0 system does not seem to detect it. Any clues... -- snip Will only work with RH 7.1 [kernel 2.4.2-2] . Discontinued from then onwards. Install 7.1 or Mandrake. Brgds Rajiv

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Linux India Initiative
by Nagarjuna G. 26 Dec '02

26 Dec '02

Ministry of Information Technology organized a meeting, called `Linux India Initiative' where more than 40 people from various depts of govt IITs, NCST, BARC, CDAC, NIC, main companies like IBM, redhat, netcore, exocore etc., and also from the state govts (secreatary level representatives.) It was rather surprising that there is so much of awareness in the Govt circles. This meeting tookplace in Delhi in the Electronics Niketan close to the Nehru Stadium on Lodhi Road. Mr. S. Ramakrishnan (popularly known as Ramki) made the only presentation in the meeting. His presentation displayed that he did his home work very well, and the presentation was comprehensive. He listed various advantages of using OSS. He made it clear in the beginning itself that Linux actually stands for GNU/Linux, and so it should be understood as inclusive of GNU and not exclusive. Later Mr. Shaw (secretary MIT) chaired the meeting that went on from 3pm to 6.15pm. He took notes of almost all the speakers points and appeared serious. Prof. Sivakumar from IIT Mumbai, Barua of IIT Gauhati, were the prominent members from the Academia. Issues such as support, GUI, security, localization, took the attention of most speakers. Also since the Chairman explicilty asked every one to respond to GUI and security concerns. Keyur Shroff from NCST made a brief presentation on localization work being done at NCST, and Atul Chitnis of Exocore also made very good points. Two volumes containing several documents downloaded from the internet are circulated to the participatns. This also included some pages from our own website. I represented the users community and FSF India. The points mentioned by me were as follows: General Comments: Why cost should not be the sole reason for promoting the use of Free (Swatantra) Software? Most people argue in favor of Free Software because of the cost factor. This should not be the sole reason for promoting free software. Achieving self-reliance is often very pain-staking and difficult path. India's success stories in Space and Atomic energy are good illustrations in this regard. We don't and we should not do `cost of ownership' analysis on our path towards self-reliance. We should run for the values enshrined in our constitution, such as `self-reliance', even if they are expensive. Incidentally, though, free software is several times economical than Proprietary software. Why the expression `Linux India Initiative' is not appropriate? The term `Linux' refers to only one of the free kernels available, though the most popular. `BSD' does not use the Linux kernel, but is also a free OS. Another free kernel called HURD is also being developed by the GNU community. Since most applications that run on GNU/Linux also run on several OSs, including MS Windows, it is not appropriate to use only `Linux.' We should promote the use of free software even on propreitary OS. Most users who are already using MS windows can also use most of free software, though it is desirable to use a free OS in the long run. My suggestion is to use `Swatantra Software Initiative'. One of the main reasons why we should go for using Free Software is not merely because of the economic implications, but its use gives the users freedom, and self-reliance. The English expression ``Free Software Initiative'' also is not appropriate because, the term `free' is ambiguous, for in most widely used contexts it refers to `free of cost/charge'. Since India is committed to self-reliance it will be appropriate to use `Swatantra'. There are a few blocks in the road of taking Swatantra software to various corners of ICT use, such as the following: Using documents encoded in proprietary format, preventing free usage of data across different OS. This also encourages monopoly and facilitates lock-in. Most IT training institutions provide training mostly emphasizing or exclusively on proprietary applications. The syllabus in several colleges and Universities knowingly or unknowingly mentions not the neutral descriptions of what the student is supposed to learn, but names of proprietary applications. E.g., Excell in place of spreadsheets, or Ms-Word in place of word processor, Oracle in place of SQL, etc. At least in all Govt controlled institutions a policy should be made against this practice. A policy decision/discussion should happen regarding the software that is being developed within the Govt organizations, and its possible release under GPL or similar protected forms of free software license. The Annexure-I already contains several broad issues for discussion. Having supported the spread of Free software in the country for several years, and keeping in mind my expertise and the mandate of the institution (Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, Mumbai) where I am working, I wish to contribute in whatever form on the following: Setting up of Resource Centres SIG in Education sector (including schools) Introduction in curricula of engineering colleges, universities and colleges. I do hope that some thing meaningful will come out of this Initiative. Mr. Ramki also mentioned in the notes that are curculated that setting up of foundations like FSF India. Nagarjuna

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Qmail relaying
by Amish Munshi 26 Dec '02

26 Dec '02

Hi all, I want to check if my qmail installation is relaying mails for other hosts. I do a simple check like telnet localhost 25 MAIL FROM:someone@nonlocal.com RCPT TO:someother@nonlocal.com {output is relaying allowed this is ok since it is a local telnet and I have 127.0.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" in /etc/tcp.smtp} Next I do a telnet 10.10.12.21 25 (my private IP) MAIL FROM:someone@nonlocal.com RCPT TO:someother@nonlocal.com {output is 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)} So can I conclude that the external mails are not being relayed? But now the problem starts. qmailctl stat gives : /service/qmail-pop3d: up (pid 22067) 9174 seconds /service/qmail-pop3d/log: up (pid 22066) 9174 seconds /service/qmail-send: up (pid 22062) 9174 seconds /service/qmail-send/log: up (pid 22063) 9174 seconds /service/qmail-smtpd: up (pid 22064) 9174 seconds /service/qmail-smtpd/log: up (pid 22065) 9174 seconds messages in queue: 32 messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0 And the messages are for external hosts, 20 Dec 2002 03:09:33 GMT #58808 4955 <> remote bounce.1194.39868523(a)bounce.bnb4.com 19 Dec 2002 17:21:14 GMT #58786 3714 <> remote adp501(a)friendly984send.com 20 Dec 2002 03:13:21 GMT #58809 5443 <> remote pro(a)speedsoffrslistings873009118273.com 19 Dec 2002 11:04:45 GMT #58787 23375 <> remote gbw135(a)isp3845mailer45.com 20 Dec 2002 04:11:52 GMT #58810 3563 <> remote adp124(a)friend284mail.com So my server is probably relaying mails, most seem to be bouncing mails. My /var/log/qmail/current is having entries like @400000003e02aa63234a85e4 delivery 98: deferral: Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1)/ @400000003e02aa63234aa13c status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Thanks in advance. Bye.

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[COMMERCIAL] Require PHP / Perl Developers
by Unitek Careers 26 Dec '02

26 Dec '02

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A C factorial Problem
by Abhijeet D Mhatre 26 Dec '02

26 Dec '02

HI friends I was experimenting with a common c factorial problem when I got a totally unexpected result. here is the program # include <stdio.h> main(){ int fact; int x; fact=factorial(6); printf ("%i\n",fff()); } int factorial(int x){ if(x>1) return(x*factorial(x-1)); } int fff () { ; } Naturally I was expecting 1 as the answer. But I am getting the answer 720 which is 6!. If I comment the 5th line fact=factorial(6); I am getting the expected result "1". The normal explanation for this is memory leak. Can anyone please tell me what is happening and are you too getting the same result. I am using redhat linux 7.3 with gcc 2.96 regards Abhijeet D Mhatre

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RMS in Mumbai 12-15th
by Nagarjuna G. 26 Dec '02

26 Dec '02

RMS (Richard Stallman) could visit Mumbai between 12-15th if all of us are interested in taking care of a good program. We can take this opportunity to shapeup our PRC attempts and revitalize the group, and have a public lecture as well as special meetings with developers. He will be going to Puna on 16th for the gnunify. Let me know this quickly so that I will tell him that we are ready. Nagarjuna

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Internal Modem
by Jayesh Samant 26 Dec '02

26 Dec '02

Hello GNU/Linux lovers, I am stuck with an Motorola SM56 internal modem, which works as a charm in windows. However my Redhat 8.0 system does not seem to detect it. Any clues... -- Best regards, Jayesh mailto:samantjayesh@softhome.net

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Linuxers December 2002