Linuxers January 2014

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cheap PCB printing
by jalinder jag 09 Dec '23

09 Dec '23

hello guys, do anyone knows where i could get dual layer PCB printed, its proxmark3 pcb, i had contacted some companies but the are too high some asking abt 4000rs for single PCB Thank u, Jalinder.

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February Mumbai Linux Users' Group Meetup
by Rigved Rakshit 16 Feb '14

16 Feb '14

Hello, The next meetup can be held on 16th (Sunday). Is anyone against this date? I will check with the Debian Diaspora team if anyone can take a Debian Packaging session over IRC. Will inform here about results. If anyone else wants to take any sessions related to GNU/Linux, they are more than welcome to do so. Best Regards, Rigved

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Reflections on the RMS Talk
by Rushabh Mehta 29 Jan '14

29 Jan '14

Thanks for the reply. Replies inline: > > It is very sad to see that the few > people who are promoting free software are also tired and depressed. > > Dunno where you jumped to that conclusion. I have been watching these lists for quite a while. There hardly any projects / activity / events other than meetups that have started recently. I think we are barely scratching the surface as far as promotion of free software is concerned. Even the FSF India website is dated. > Clearly new energy is required on> and revenue is also increasing year on year, but it is still not enough. If > we divert attention in too many things, then we may lose the advantage that > ERPNext has built up. Also, there is a lot to be done. > > Business development is part of a business. Every state government > spends tens crores on education. The smartness is in campaigning for > FOSS with ones business goals in mind. > If you take funding from let's say the FSF, it would be wholly unprincipled to project your company > / services in such programs, unless you too were contributing financially. We are not taking or wanting to take any funding from FSF. Thankfully we are able to sell hosting services to the user community. Our goal was to voluntarily go to these organizations and not to promote our software but Linux Desktops, Office tools, Mail and Web Servers - the basic stack. > This would be ideally done under the umbrella of Free Software Foundation > of India (or if they are very religious/suspicious about us who have to > earn our bread and don't live off grants, or there are too many > ego-mountains to be climbed, then we could form a new group). > That one is a Pointless rant. Afaik, Nobody on this list is living off > someone else's largesse. Agree - its a rant, but I have mailed a lot of people individually, and from the response (or lack) I can clearly sense that we are "outsiders". Either ways, its surely something for people to introspect - we need to pool resources if we have to fight commercial interests. --

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Laptop with Windows 8
by Joel A Divekar 28 Jan '14

28 Jan '14

Hi Friends I recently purchased HP J028tx laptop which came along with pre installed Windows 8. I plan to get rid of windows 8 completely and install Ubuntu, but would like to know how to retain Windows 8 licence as no windows license key was provided along with the laptop. I may need the license to setup virtual instance for testing connectivity with Samba ADs server. Kindly advice Regards Joel Divekar Mumbai

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Reflections on the RMS Talk
by Rushabh Mehta 28 Jan '14

28 Jan '14

Dear all, Wrote a small writeup after attending the RMS talk last week: https://www.erpnext.com/free-or-open-source-software Last week, we attended a talk by Richard Stallman, the father of Free Software. He is legendary in tech circles for founding the GNU Project (GNU is Not Unix) and writing a lot of tools that are a part of the Linux Operating System, which according to him, must be called GNU/Linux. Stallman is also known to have radical political views on software and has a set of terminology that he insists must be used by everyone talking about his work. His primary disagreement is with the term Open Source, which he calls as pushovers. By pushovers, he means that the term Open Source software is tainted by the need for sustainability using commercial means. Often this is unfairly done either by only distributing parts of the software as free or by keeping some features as paid. For Stallman, all software must be free and must be used in ways that all derivate works also have the same freedom. The thought is both noble and also a protection that companies do not pick up work from the community and bundle it as their own tools. The GNU General Public License, also called as the "copyleft" license, protects these rights. ERPNext too is licensed under this License, even though we position ERPNext as Open Source. Personally I am more pragmatic about the usage of the terminology. We use Open Source because our users understand this term more than Free. Also Free ERP has different connotations. Free stuff is eyed suspiciously as most people believe that there is a cost to everything. This is tragic because a lot of good free and open source software exists, and it is sad to see that because of such political issues, groups cannot get together to promote it. (I will use these terms interchangeably in this post.) Stallman also talked a lot about surveillance and how governments are using devices to illegally and surreptitiously capture information of our likes, relations and movements. Even though we all need to caution against too much intrusion of privacy, these devices also bring a lot of convenience and freedom to us. *Advocacy* One of the primary roles that Stallman and his Free Software Foundation (FSF) plays is that of advocating Free Software in education institutes and governments. Teaching Free Software to students is of vital importance because if they start getting familiar with free software, they will grow up to use it. Companies like Microsoft send sales people to promote their software to schools because they want to get young students to user their tools and grow familiar with them. In the same way, promoters of free software must also send volunteers to schools to promote free software. The second is governments. Governments by definition are owned by the commons. People pool in their taxes so that the government can work efficiently and the best bang for the buck is delivered when companies providing solutions are forced to use free software and publish their solutions as open source. India is lacking on both these counts. It is very sad to see that the few people who are promoting free software are also tired and depressed. Clearly new energy is required on these fronts. We at Web Notes feel very strongly about this and we hope to make some contribution here. Unfortunately we are also stuck with a couple of constraints. One is of course that we are need to get our revenues in place first and second is that we don't know where to start. Maybe a fresh beginning is required. *What Can We Do* Our first goal, like I said earlier is that we need to ensure we have surplus funds to invest in this area. ERPNext is surely growing very well and revenue is also increasing year on year, but it is still not enough. If we divert attention in too many things, then we may lose the advantage that ERPNext has built up. Also, there is a lot to be done. If we had the resources, we would setup a voluntary effort for schools and governments where we could go and give them short presentations and also give free support for using Linux Desktops, Office tools, Mail Servers, Web Servers etc. The challenge would be in making the initial contact, then setting up a time, then doing the presentation and then offering support. This would be ideally done under the umbrella of Free Software Foundation of India (or if they are very religious/suspicious about us who have to earn our bread and don't live off grants, or there are too many ego-mountains to be climbed, then we could form a new group). I think to do this would be our duty as not only publishers of free software but as good citizens too. best, Rushabh

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site which teaches android dev in a strange way
by Pratik Anand 27 Jan '14

27 Jan '14

Site is www.codelearn.org/android-tutorial<http://www.codelearn.org/android-tutorial?utm_source=lugmum> They ask users to download an Eclipse plugin for their tutorials which is then used for tracking user errors and showing hints, which I think is pretty cool. -- Pratik Anand http://www.pratikanand.com Twitter handle:pratikone <http://twitter.com/pratikone>

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Exporting and importing webmin groups
by Kshitij M Kotak 27 Jan '14

27 Jan '14

Hello expert friends We are trying to backup Webmin users and groups from 1 system and restoring it on another system. While webmin users are getting restored, webmin groups are not getting backed up. >From the Webmin Interface > Backup Configuration > Backup now we are backing upWebmin ConfigurationWebmin Servers IndexWebmin Users into a file, copying that file and restoring it on 2nd system. What is the additional I am supposed to do for getting Webmin Users and Groups transferred into 2nd system? Urgent help will be appreciated. Thank you in advance. Kshitij

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Help on Vi Command
by Joel A Divekar 26 Jan '14

26 Jan '14

Thanks a lot Pratik. From: Pratik Vyas <m(a)pd.io> Sent: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:08:24 To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Help on Vi Command Hi Joel, On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Joel A Divekar <joel_divekar(a)rediffmail.com> wrote: > > Hi All > I am trying to do the following > Search for all lines starting with&nbsp;INSERT&nbsp;command and append ;&nbsp;at End of Line > > I am aware about search and replace using > :%s/^INSERT/$;/g > but this replaces INSERT and not append ; at end of the line.&nbsp;Kindly help > Regards > Try, :%s/^INSERT$.*$$/\0\&nbsp\;/g ie. Capture everything after the INSERT and replace it by itself (\0) and the text you want you append. > > Joel Divekar > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Thanks. Pratik -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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[OT] Help on Vi Command
by Joel A Divekar 26 Jan '14

26 Jan '14

Hi All I am trying to do the following Search for all lines starting with INSERT command and append ; at End of Line I am aware about search and replace using :%s/^INSERT/$;/g but this replaces INSERT and not append ; at end of the line. Kindly help Regards Joel Divekar

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[OT] Help on Vi Command
by Joel A Divekar 26 Jan '14

26 Jan '14

Hi All I am trying to do the following Search for all lines starting with INSERT command and append ; at End of Line I am aware about search and replace using :%s/^INSERT/$;/g  but this replaces INSERT not append ;. Kindly help Regards Joel Divekar

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