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I use RH EL 3, Every thing is working fine but
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The file is already present on the system.
I want to use this system as LAMP server. Any other
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2007/5/29, Vihan Pandey <vihanpandey(a)gmail.com>:
> He is and he has also repeatedly praised the Free Software philosophy
> and DOES support efforts regarding the same.
But when it comes to developing launchpad, he has chosen not to be
with the Free Software community, even though he had the power to
decide that.
> Try searching for GNU on their website you DO get references to Ubuntu
> GNU/Linux, Kubuntu GNU/Linux
It is by Ubuntu users and not the official stand of the project.
> - It does not give importance to Freedom.
>
> what exactly are you referring to here? Yes their primary goal is
> giving GNU/Linux to the masses
> and yes they do make freedom secondary. Only making freedom secondary
> does NOT imply that they ignore it all together. You cannot compare
> them to a M$.
So, I support those who do give Freedom primary importance.
"We can lose our freedom again just as we lost it the first time, if
we don't care enough to protect it."
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/linux-gnu-freedom.html
Surely they are better than M$ (or so i believed before reading the
blogs linked below, now I have serious doubts of their intentions),
but for me those who value Freedom more than merits is important and
Ubuntu isn't one of them yet (they have promised to have a completely
Free distribution and I will support that wholeheartedly).
>
>
> - "Ubuntu is and always will be free of charge." there is no guarantee
> that it will remain Free Software
>
> After the M$ Novell deal and a not fully ready GPL v3 yet, how many
> projects can guarantee that they will remain Free Software?
>
"Debian will remain 100% free"
from Debian social contract with the Free Software Community
http://www.us.debian.org/social_contract
"gNewSense is Free Software, its mission is to deliver these freedoms to you:"
http://www.gnewsense.org/Main/Mission
and others http://www.gnu.org/links/links.html#FreeGNULinuxDistributions
>
> - On the contrary, they have clearly stated their willingness to
> include non-free softwares in their distribution.
>
> They do include proprietary drivers so new users can use the system,
> but other than that what other non free software are they packaging
> into Ubuntu?
There are Free drivers which work for most of the cases.
"There are people like Torvalds that will pressure our community into
use of a non-free program, and challenge anyone who complains to
provide a (technically) better program immediately or shut up."
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/linux-gnu-freedom.html
>
>
> - They don't believe in Free Software.
> Is this your opinion or did a Canonical/Ubuntu representative say
> this? If yes please do give that link as well.
It is my opinion (after all it is in my talk page, and other claims
not mine are given proper references).
Some more about launchpad and the dangers of a proprietary format:
"What Canonical is trying to achieve here is to collect all the work
that the free software have made and will made, and put them under
their control. ............ , we all depend on Canonical to
continue providing the service."
http://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/archives/60-Launchpad,-Google-and-why-M…
he continues:
"................By good marketing, clever programming and commercial
pressure, they locked in a lot of people to use Microsoft products and
formats. This is evil, but we have found a solution to that: reverse
engineering and Free Software. Microsoft can be coped with. But Google
and Launchpad were even cleverer. Instead of locking something in,
they open everything: It is free, it has nice usable APIs to integrate
in applications, and they suck all that opened data in and keep ahold
of it. And while Microsoft has a record of doing a bad job when it
comes to technical quality, thus helps the alternative, non-evil, Free
Software, Google, and probably Launchpad, excels in what they doing,
thus reducing the immediate need for alternatives altogether."
>
> Again, do you have a web
> link that states this?
There much more in this study
http://charismacode.blogspot.com/2007/01/powers-and-repositories-ubuntu-and…
> Nor do i
> want to restrict them by saying it will work only if you have this
> hardware it works else it won't - in fact that gives them the
> impression that it is me that is conditioning their freedom :-)
Except for th 3D stuff the Free drivers work for ATI and NVIDIA. Now
if everyone start shipping the non-free drivers what is the incentive
for those who provide Free drivers or the developer who reverse
engineer it.
I guess I will need to split the reply as it might not go through the
size limit.
Cheers
Praveen
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On 5/29/07 Easwar Hariharan wrote:
> Hi,
> I am using Mandriva 07 installed from a LFY DVD.It's the free version.
> I have not used any other distro as yet coz I am still a newbie.
I don't trust LFY CD/DVDs.
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Hello All,
The recent war of distros on our list made me wonder if the Ubuntu OS
available with all desktops, like a complete selective installation just
like Mandriva or Fedora? I must say Mandriva's installer is very good as
it allows fine tuning devices before the installation begins. U, Ku, Edu
and X makers could come together to make this complete distro.
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hi
i need to install ubuntu on a PIII laptop of which the cdrom drive is bad
the laptop does not support booting from external usb cdroms
in windows world i would have removed the laptop hard disk and
connected it to other pc
make it bootable and transfer the setup cab files on to it , put it
back on the laptop and run setup
but i a dont know how it can be done in linux
can i connect this hard disk to some other machine install ubuntu and
then put it back in the laptop and then would ubuntu re-detect all the
hardware
or any other idea
help ??
thanks
regards
continuing with my earlier reply
2007/5/29, Vihan Pandey <vihanpandey(a)gmail.com>:
> - Ubuntu translations does not respect upstream, they are forks. The
> Rosetta translations don't go upstream (It is good in one way since
> the quality of the translations are very poor)Again, do you have a web
> link that states this?
"However, by studying and taking part in the translation of KDE to
Norwegian I have reached something like a tentative, partial and
temporary "conclusion". That conclusion, to put it very briefly, is
that there is something ... (fishy?) about Launchpad. Now, here is the
story that has led me to this ad hoc and provisional conclusion."
http://charismacode.blogspot.com/2007/01/powers-and-repositories-ubuntu-and…
It has the details of the experiment he did.
"Rosetta acts and exists as if it is independent of upstream." - again
the same study.
>
> > So for me gNewSense, Debian, Fedora ... are much more important than
> > Ubuntu (but again it is better than Windows, Suse ...).
>
> As a Debian user myself, i would rather give Debian to someone wanting
> to to startup with GNU/Linux, however i don't want them to break their
> heads on building drivers in their 1st attempt at install. Nor do i
> want to restrict them by saying it will work only if you have this
> hardware it works else it won't - in fact that gives them the
> impression that it is me that is conditioning their freedom :-)
We are almost there to have complete Free Softwares and if we lose
now, why did we do it all along? we could all have sit content with
proprietary software.
>
> > Freedom aspect
> > is not the top priority for Ubuntu (Ubuntu website highlights Free of
> > Cost availability).
>
> agreed.
That is why I said I cannot recommend ubuntu to anyone.
>
> no, i meant - has anyone asked Canonical why is Launchpad not Free Software ?
There has been discussions on this.
Again from the study:
"Over time, it will be open sourced. Right now we compete with Progeny
and Red Hat and other companies, so we need to have a unique offering
to do so effectively, and that's Launchpad. There are already
libraries and tools in LP that we have open sourced on request,
especially in Rosetta, the translation infrastructure. ..." Mark
Shuttleworth
"... to me, the only logical conclusion to that is that LaunchPad will
be free when Canonical/Ubuntu are the only players in the market, or
when Canonical's current business model fails and they switch to a
different one. Which is fine: if you write some software from scratch,
it's your choice what you do with it; but unless you're an underpants
gnome or a slashdot commenter, the above doesn't qualify as a "plan"
to free LaunchPad." - Anthony Towns, previous debian project leader.
>
> > Debian uses only Free Software for its infrastructure and it promises
> > to give back to the community any new tools created.
>
> agreed.
I believe that is a very important quality for a member in the Free
Software community. If all they do is take everything in and not give
anything back then that is not good for the community.
>
> > see the wiki link. It is not just launchpad, the entire data stored in
> > the infrastructure is in proprietary format (Remember the case of
> > bitkeeper).
>
> Well, at the end of the day it got dumped for git and if all you say
> is true for launchpad it won't last very long either.
is it a prediction?
> i would rather give Debian to someone over any other distro ANY day,
> only one can't do that all the time. If everyone i met was a techie
> and willing to
> go the extra mile - yes it works, only life isn't always like that.
> The normal non
> techie user DOES count.
I'm working on debian to make it easier for new users, so are many.
>
> Sometimes it not so bad if you hold a child's hand while it is
> learning to walk :-)
I would love to do it myself rather than depending on someone else.
>
> > You will have to use a non-free program to participate in ubuntu
> > development and your contributions will be stored in a proprietary
> > format, you could retrieve it only through that program (remember
> > bitkeeper).
>
> i do and i also remember how it was chucked out and replaced by git.
Do you know why it was chucked out? the bitkeeper guys said, enough
you can't use it any more. Here the case is different. Both guys are
the same.
Cheers
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Hello everyone,
Apple has finally succeeded in convincing EMI(a
major record label :-) to keep its music DRM free and available on the
iTunes store. It's good to see that Steve Jobs managed to convince
them to do it :-)
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/02itunes.html
Its a step in the right direction, i hope more will follow :-) i
really wish they would take out a Free Software version of iTunes now
:-)
/me hopes...
Regard,
- vihan
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Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
>
> > what about gnewsense?
>
> All these `freedom fighters' should not use Ubuntu. It provides access to
> non-free software. Ditch. It's not listed on GNU's list of free
> distributions. Use only one of the free distros listed there, none other. If
> you don't follow that, shut up and stop preaching about freedom and blah
> blah.
Freedom comes with right to choose whatever you want. Non-Free too.
Provide access and comes with default-non-free-stuffs are different
things (If you can understand it).
So, Speakup and don't shut up. Raise your voice, dudes.
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