Linuxers March 2002

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by Amit Karnik 17 Aug '02

17 Aug '02

Hi I am using Cable Connection for internet I have configured my Lan Card on Red Hat Linux 7........and am also able to ping the server of my Cable operator..but am not able to surf the net or connect to internet..... How can i achieve that...pls help...... --------------------------------- Download Yahoo! Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop

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Linux in Marathi
by jitendra 11 Jul '02

11 Jul '02

If any ILUG-BOM members are interested , they may join a meeting on Saturday at IIT where some are meeting. This is in response to an appeal made in ArthVrittant article on Stallman, by Anil Shaligram on 18 March issue of Loksatta. Some of the ideas that came up while thinking about Marathi Linux There are 3 levels of work in Marathi-isation 1> Applications like office software: Free softwares like a>StarOffice , which are quite a good substitute for MS-Office and available in Linux : b> GIS softwares like GRASS or MYWorld useful for urgent problms like water and environment c> educational softwares Like LOGO, STARLOGO, Model-It, Worldwatcher, DrGenius We need to translate the labels and messages and documentations and tutorials, multi-lingual CDs with multimedia. 2>Creating application in Marathi: Using gtk, glade emacs etc. 3> Working at the OS level : Creating labels/message table in marathi. NCST has already done a large part for Hindi, some in Marathi too. We also need to create mass awereness thru newspaper article in all the press. We should ask our local cybercafe to have marathi software loaded. AKRUTI have agrred to support anyone helping. Similarly other Marathi and Indian language developers can be asked to make offers. This would make the idea of working in Indian language a day-to-day affair without too much cost. jitendra For details contact jitendras(a)vsnl.com

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pine or mutt?
by Nikhil Joshi 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Hi! I've found that there is a cult following as far as mail agents and editors are concerned. A guy who uses vi rearely uses emacs and vice versa also a guy who uses mutt rarely uses pine or any other mail agent. I would like to discuss about mail agent here (I use vi and I love it ;) I use pine and it suffices most of my needs. Has anyone used both pine and mutt extensively? What in your opinon is more powerful and user friendly? when I enter mutt the inital UI is not inviting and I'm forced to press the q key :) I've read that mutt relies on .rc file editing. I'm planning to learn mutt but I just don't want to be disappointed if I figure out that there ain't much difference between pine and mutt. -- "If we wanted more leisure, we'd invent machines that do things less efficiently." -Calvin's dad

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Book available ?
by Dr . Sharukh K . R . Pavri . 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

I was suggested to read Mastering Regular Expressions by Jeffery Friedl. I am told it is _the_ book to read for regex. When I enquired w/ my bookwalla, he told me that he was told it would have o be oredered from abroad and would cost ~ Rs. 1300/-. And no, I don't think he is trying to rip me off. It's also not available at the roadside booksellers at Fountain. Does anyone have this book with him ? I would like to first take a look at it before I commit to pay for it. regards, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Mumbai, India.

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How is Linux so secure ??
by Nikhil Joshi 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Plz tell me where I'm wrong: Linux is open source --> The Code which encrypts the login password is freely available --> A Baddie looks at the code and finds out the algorithm --> cat /etc/passwd | grep root --> Voila! the baddie has root password. Of course this does not happen How does Linux manage to be secure inspite of being open source? -- Sometimes it seems things go by too quickly. We are so busy watching out for what's just ahead of us that we don't take the time to enjoy where we are. -- Calvin

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NTFS driver
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Does anyone have compiled 2.4 series kernel to produce NTFS driver??? Could you mail it to me or otherwise tell me where I can get it. I tried google, but no use. Didn't find any precompiled driver. I need it badly. I need to transfer some project files from NTFS to Linux. I tried compiling the kernel, but it is giving some stupid problems. I'm using RH 7.1. I think, this topic of kernel not getting compiled properly was discussed earlier as well. Thanks in advance, Kunal Gangakhedkar

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ide drive errors on bootup
by Kunal Jhunjhunwala 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Hey, Whenever I boot up my linux machine, it gets stuck on the following : hda : irq timeout : status 0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete } I am running red hat 7.2.. and its a fresh install.. any suggestions on how to fix this?? Regards, Kunal Jhunjhunwala "Minds think with ideas, not information. No amount of data, bandwidth, or processing power can substitute for inspired thought." - Clifford Stoll

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Re: Brute force against MD5
by Vinay Pai 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

> Random strings are harder to get, but still possible with a brute > force > approach (a cracker that tries every combination of n letters, digits > and special characters that exist). This however takes very long and > is > not feasible for most. "not feasible for most" is a gross understatement. The MD5 hash is 128 bits long. This means that there are 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 values. This means that even if you could try a TRILLION combinations a second it would take you 10,790,283,070,806,014,188 years to break! A brute force attack against MD5 won't work.

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indianising Linux : web site
by jitendra 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

We are a group of students and teachers in engg college and want to work towrda indianising gnu/Linux. We aim at doing whatevr it takes to do it. We have no great expertise but are seeking some. We would like to set up a site for the availble resources and strt identifying small tasks and get them to be done. We would like to keep track of status and progress as is done by gnu project on translations for across the world. I do not find mention of indian languages on the gnu site which is a sad (if not shameful) fact. This is the time for all those who want to join to come up with help. All kind of help. We would like to meet some time. We have a coordinator , the undersigned . Can ilug host (give web-space) such a site or has one already? We aim at NOT restricting to geeks and only technical work but also get the translations of important packages and involve general public . We need to answer a few technical questions though. 1> so long as many people have only windows (MS!) they may have to use their software for editing files in indian languages. What standard(UNICODE, ISCII, ISO?) should be followed and using which free software to create strings , .po files, .pot files. yudit, sbabel or what? Are these available in windows with devnagari.Even if this is not perfect can we ensure that the same may be convertible and improved. Or is it necessary for us to wait for miracle of perfect solution and availability of linux all around. 2> what programs would be needed to partially automate the translations. Many are floating around. Can some geek take up the challenge and give a comparative picture for us to use. Also give a small tutorial.? 3> We want to start with marathi. The lessons and tools will be useful for all other languages. Who are the others in this field. Jitendra Jitendra

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Brute force against MD5
by Amish Mehta 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

Vinay Pai wrote: >The MD5 hash is 128 bits long. This means that there are >340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 values. This means >that even if you could try a TRILLION combinations a second it would >take you 10,790,283,070,806,014,188 years to break! > >A brute force attack against MD5 won't work. Should I add if you do not consider luck factor and few assumptions on length of password, starting and ending characters of password. Which is not tough to find out in case you are in close vicinity of an administrator. Amish.

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