Linuxers June 2003

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Mr. Kalam Thrashes Proprietary Software
by Pranav Joshi 03 Jun '03

03 Jun '03

"The most unfortunate thing is that India still seems to believe in proprietary solutions," President Kalam. Read the whole article to know what our president has to say about Free/Prop software. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/30991.html Pranav ===== I bless your computer, my child! ------------------------- Saint IGNUcius. ------------------------- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Indic fonts
by linuxdev 03 Jun '03

03 Jun '03

my opinion about the pathetic indic support in software in general is lack of gov. initiative in this regard. Sorry if i sound whiny here :D In China they made it a gov. agenda to get the lang. on to softwares. They dared microsoft to enter without chinese language support. As of today they have put all the top univs, softw. companies in china to work on complete chinese version of linux - red flag. I am really waiting for that to happen here. Just one or two developers can't do this. Its lot of work and requires a lot of resources and brains. Agreedly as jt says its dependent on market size too. But thats only the initiative for software business wanting to setup a shop. Gov. should definitely have more reasons to do it besides market ? Also if we have one nice uniform api /platform in place businesses would find it easier to adapt their software for it ? This is being worked on in iits AFAIK, i dunno the name of the project but i did read bout it sometime back on an iit page. later, C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Indic fonts
by linuxdev 03 Jun '03

03 Jun '03

Hi everybody, Doesn't the argument of display of fonts seem to be fading with the major work load having shifted to xft in X ?? All the same it makes me wonder why chinese is first supported as international language these days by any software. Devnagri doesn't figure anywhere most of the times. Despite the fact that mandarin script is quite difficult in structure than the devnagri. Some developer of X back then pointed out that it was due to lack of standard in implementation of fonts. There are n things to making fonts and there is a lack of standards for that in indian fonts was the gist. And now talking of GTK vs Qt (again why should it be vs is something that beats me !) i always look at the memory usage and relevance of features. I dunno who made that comment -> "KDE values quality over features" ... but thats actually a characteristic of gtk and not kde/Qt. They actually try to get things neat, secure, clean than kde where the user is first confronted with soo many features to tweak that he/she wishes their original platform were better. Talking of quality i consider memory usage to be one aspect of it too. GTK simply shines there. KDE/Qt has tons of work to do in that section. GTK as it stands now is no way perfect but a viable and an extremely efficient platform for anyone who hates visual clutter (read as eye candy). I haven't tested the upcoming 2.4 gnome but as far as the aims goes they have a surefire winner. There are many points which could be debated as to where GTK shines and where it does not. But as far as application development goes gtk is a preferred choice by most of the apps in linux for gui. i couldn't help popping in when someone simply fires off against gnome or kde without giving it a thought. ;) my next post was supposed to be on my experiences wit h the various filesystems in linux. oh well nevermind. it'll be the next. C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Events / Sessions for exhibition
by MagNet WebPublishing Pvt. Ltd. 03 Jun '03

03 Jun '03

Hi All, We have taken a stall at an upcoming exhibition in Mumbai - 13 to 15 June. As we will be promoting GNU/Linux & related services, we were thinking that we could invite some partners - either on a commercial basis or otherwise. I have got a confirmation from the organizers and they are ready to provide the infrastructure to carry out some presentations as well. We are happy that IndLinux will be there with us on Saturday. We are looking for 2 more projects/organizations we could bring in. If it is a commercial venture, we could work out commercials, and if it is non-profit, we can give the space free. I was thinking if ilug-bom or anybody else wanted to join. Any volunteers for presentations are also welcome. Though the presentations may not be high-profile, we can spread a word about it. Your thoughts / comments / ideas welcome! Regards, Nirav. ====================================================== | MLEP - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP education program | | http://www.mlep.com/ | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | tangible, customized solutions for your e-business | | http://www.magnet-i.com/ | ======================================================

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] hands on workshops for bombayites............NY TAKERS???
by joel_divekar 03 Jun '03

03 Jun '03

Hi Guys That would be great. Please count me in. Regards Joel "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" wrote: Hey Luggers!!!! Do we have any takers for the same. Its time for some action and all of us would be glad to have as many as possible on board. Lets start with a small Open Event for Enterprises-Indivizuals and then migrate from there. Trevor On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 09:55, Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 07:49:56AM +0530, Trevor Warren wrote: > > > Its been a really long time since we did some real open workshops for > > bombayites. > > > > What say???. Am all for getting this on the road. > > Count me in! > > Sameer. -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor(a)clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/ -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now !

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[COMMERCIAL] Training in Qt
by Aseem Rane 02 Jun '03

02 Jun '03

Hi friends, Does any institution/individual offers formal training on Qt (3.1.2) in Mumbai. I am looking for a ~3 days fulltime workshop. I am interested in * Qt Signal/Slots Mechanism * Having Qt and Motif widgets in the same form interacting with each other. * Internationalization * Building custom widgets/plugins * Drag-Drop functionality (Different Mime Types) * Qt designer * Debugging etc.... Apart Qt Referance Documentation, Is there any other material/books which are recomended for serious development in Qt? Regards Aseem -- Aseem Rane Sr. Software Engineer, L&T Infotech Ltd. Powai.

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Events / Sessions for exhibition
by MagNet WebPublishing Pvt. Ltd. 02 Jun '03

02 Jun '03

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Events / Sessions for exhibition
by MagNet WebPublishing Pvt. Ltd. 02 Jun '03

02 Jun '03

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Kernel 2.5.70 problems
by Nikhil Joshi 01 Jun '03

01 Jun '03

Hi! I got curious after reading linuxdev's mail regarding kernel 2.5.70 and installed it. I followed the ususal procedure. However my mouse is not working now. I've compiled the support for mouse into the kernel itself: CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL=y gpm gives message: /dev/mouse: Connection refused (where /dev/mouse is symlink to /dev/cua0. This works on my 2.4 kernel) I've also compiled modules for my sound card, which also doesnt work. #lsmod gives blank output. I've updated modutils to the latest version (0.9.12) Is this the result of beta version of kernel or have i missed something? Please guide. -- Nikhil Joshi http://nikhiljoshi.cjb.net

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[para-OT ;)] Need Debian "Sid"
by nemo＠phoenixsoftech.com 01 Jun '03

01 Jun '03

Hi all, I would like to know where I can get Debian "Sid" unstable CDs. If anyone in Mumbai has them I will pay for the copies. Nemo

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Linuxers June 2003