Linuxers October 2007

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Linux users - pl give your opinion - this could be a decisive matter
by Sudhir Gandotra 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

http://www.cxotoday.com/cxo/jsp/article.jsp?article_id=83619&cat_id=912#593… The Linux users may like to counter this argument of m$ and to show to the authorities the right direction. This is a good chance to demonstrate our capabilities. Peace, Force & Joy! Sudhir Gandotra. 98-101-20918 OpenLX Linux OS, Linux Training, Support, Services, Product Development Legal.Software @ Fractional Cost : http://kalculate.com http://openlx.com - International Alliance of LINUX companies You don't need violence to shake the world Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You www.humanistmovement.org

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Fwd: [Semi-commercial] Community offers suggestions to Microsoft
by Philip Tellis 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Janani Gopalakrishnan <writetojanani(a)gmail.com> Date: 3 Oct 2007 16:41 Subject: [Semi-commercial] Community offers suggestions to Microsoft To: linuxers-owner(a)mm.glug-bom.org Hi all, Thanks for sharing your views on problems with Microsoft and how to solve those. We have chosen the best of the responses received across mailing lists and uploaded the compilation (licensed under creative commons) on openITis.com. Please check it out at http://linuxforu.com/openitis/comment_articles.php?cpath=33&a_id=429# Thanks again! Cheers, Janani ----------------------------------------------------- Janani Gopalakrishnan Vikram http://gjanani.googlepages.com -----------------------------------------------------

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Tata Indicom Broadband @ Linux box
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

Hi, Few days back, I subscribed to Tata Indicom Broadband ( www.tataindicombroadband.in ). I chose the Infinity 1 Mbps plan. This apparently comes with no installation charges even if you don't give commitment for more than 1 month. For other plans you have to commit for 4 months to get that 1K INR waiver. I found that they do the feasilbilty quite fast and response time was quite fast as well ( this might depend on locality). But co-ordination between the tech and marketing dudes was not so good. Oh and neither of them knew if they supported Linux :O. Surprisingly the callcentre dude confidently said they do and the tech dude would setup everything when he comes to my place. Cut to my home ( few days later, i.e. yesterday ) - the tech dude arrives. When I tell him that I have linux on all the boxes he made a few calls and finally said he doesn't know how it works on Linux but he will get a mail from his boss and will come back and do the setup. After some random conversation, I asked him if he can do the setup on Windows atleast and he managed to do it on my windows partition in my laptop ( yes, I didnot delete it yet :). The general process these chaps follow is - login to some webconsole of theirs where they find data about the customer - go to the tata indicome bb website and register with the Serial number and PIN code. After which you have to select your username, password and the usual cruft. Then the create a account on your box and check if everything works and leave. The Linux way works much faster :). I followed [1]. But all that is needed is "sudo pppoeconf". If you already have a /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider, back it up if you care for existing settings. After that is mostly selecting yes or no. For user name - please select username(a)vsnl.net or whatever domain they have given you. But point being the complete userid+domain has to be there, afaik. Type in your password. ( when the dudes set it up, they generally put passwd as tata123, change it using the website ) Don't know if this is worth adding into the wiki. Maybe it should be, [1]http://users.pandora.be/Asterisk-PBX/PPPoE.htm Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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Field Report - Freed.in/2007
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

Hi, I was at FREED.IN/2007 in Delhi - a event organised by ilug-del. This even was known as FreeDel earlier. This was the first even I attended by ilug-del. Some luggers from BOM have attended FreeDel many times before. It was a wonderful experience. Meeting many old friends and making many more new friends. Quite a few from ILUG-BOM were present. Many if not all of them were actually speakers at the event. The event kick started with Raj Mathur opening address and lamp lighting ceremony. Shawn Kwon gave a wonderful talk on his experiences with FOSS in Korea. It was followed by Atul Chitnis's interesting talk on innovation and startup. Was a good topic for budding entrepreneurs in the audience. Speakers from LUG-BOM included, Devdas Bhagat,Philip Tellis Barkha Khatri, Anurag Patel, Friji Karthikeyan, Arun Khan, Ananth A, Gaurav Chaturvedi, Dinesh Shah (who is a temporary Delhite atm) , Kartik Mistry and me. ( hope I didnot forget anyone, sorry if I did ). I finally met some people for the first time whom I knew from mailing lists and irc - Raj Mathur, Kingsly John (nicest and most helpful person ever!), Karanbir Singh ( you *have* hear him speak at least once, especially in a bof sort of environment ). There were quite a impromptu bofs. It often started as a chat and went on to become a fullfledged bof. One example was - when Mayank Sharma ( of Linux.com fame ), Aanjhan Ranganathan and me were discussing how we often meet at foss conf at various places - when Karanbir Singh joined us and Kingsly a little later. Since then the discussion took a right turn and went straight into discussing how certain aspects of ISPs work and "pairing" between ISPs work and other things even. After that a reporter from Tehelka.com joined us and asked many questions about FOSS. From that point on, many others joined the bof. That was one enlightening discussion. There were two panel discussions even and many many talks in different tracks. There was a lot of new things to learn, I must say. I had the opportunity to meet two GSoC candidates for the first time - Piyush Verma (KDE) and Anant Narayan ( Bell Labs ). Interesting chaps. Hope to see them again in future.Met old friends and known people from the Indian foss scene. Other lugs represented were - Pune LUG, ILug-Cal, people from Bangalore were there even ILUG-Del hospitality was awesome. I have never seen so many kababs at one time. ;). Some of us stayed in JNU campus, the place is really nice. The event was co-organised by JNU - School of Information Technology. Bottom line - great conference. You should seriously consider attending the event next time. Btw, it really is a community event. The line between speakers and volunteers is almost invisible. Quite a few speakers happily got "volunteered". Be there next time to see it yourself and experience it first hand. Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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Tata Indicom Broadband @ Linux box
by Satish Alwani 02 Oct '07

02 Oct '07

Actually, As far as I know they are replacing all their logins/ PPPoE based connections with a browser based login. Once you login (yes it works fine with firefox), your effectively online. I think they had a PPPoE connection here, but it was before i took up tata, when i joined they just gave me something called the TI BB Web Dialer [loginmum.tataindicombroadband.in]. Which in a way is good cause it works with any browser with js. Satish

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Re: .. [ILUG-BOM] Tata Indicom Broadband @ Linux box
by jtd 02 Oct '07

02 Oct '07

On Tuesday 02 October 2007 08:26, Pradeepto Bhattacharya wrote: > > Don't know if this is worth adding into the wiki. Maybe > it should be, Absolute must add. atleast for the benefit of tata zombies. Maybe you should add the general steps in configuring pppoe and subsections for tata, sify etc -- Rgds JTD

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How-to: Beginner's Guide to GCC (Ubuntu)
by Roshan N Baladhanvi 01 Oct '07

01 Oct '07

List, Since, Yahoo! was constantly bouncing my emails to the list, I have subscribed temporarily on a different email id. So, to begin posting, I have included a URL below that points to a How-To for beginners to using GCC. http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Beginners_guide_to_GCC Please feel free to make any changes to the document. Suggestions / Comments / Criticism ? http://www.ubuntu-in.org

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blender compared with other 3D tools - pretty good
by Praveen A 01 Oct '07

01 Oct '07

"If you ever wanted starting in 3D creation today, you probably need to know with which 3D applications package with you will feel better and which is the most suitable for you and business ? Many new CG artists try many softwares before really starting their 3D business, that's of courses the best solution to try out and know if you feel coMfortable with one than other, so after you can't know all specs of all 3D softwares when starting in 3D... Here is a comparison table with cons. and pro. for the most know today top industries 3D applications. This table isn't intended to be complete with all softwares features available but try to surround the common today 3D cg artist tasks." Full review http://www.tdt3d.be/articles_viewer.php?art_id=99 Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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[OT]: Back to Yahoo!
by Roshan 01 Oct '07

01 Oct '07

List, I received an ack for my post to the list in my Yahoo! inbox. Looks like the problem is solved and therefore, Yahoo! users can send emails to the list. Thanks to the list admin and Yahoo! Customer Care. -- http://www.gnu.org.in http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html

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