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symbian OS Mobile
by Vishal 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

Can any one suggest me a Mobile phone model which works on Symbian OS ? Regards Vishal

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Some Technology Observations.
by Debarshi Ray 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

> Another observation was that whenever every speaker wanted to start > his/her presentation, it would take a few minutes to setup their laptops > as they would be connected to the vga cable on stage. That was mainly because the speakers did not let us know whether they would require a computer beforehand. It was only when they started to walk towards the microphone would they let their desires be known. Add to that the confusion when someone would want to give a presentation about Free Software and Free Knowledge, which they had made on proprietary applications, on their own machines running MacOS. Setting up the VGA cable was not a major issue. :-) > Instead of all this wiring, is it possible to use the wireless LAN to broadcast > the video-out directly to the projector through a receiver interface? There was no wireless LAN in the auditorium. However your initial idea does sound interesting. Regards, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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How to port WSAEVENT and WSANETWORKEVENT to linux
by suman tripathy 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

Hi all, I am trying to port one application from windows to linux. I am facing problem in finding out alternative for WSAEVENT and the associated functions to it like WSACreateEvent,WSAWaitForMultipleEvents etc. Can anybody help? Regards, Suman ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html

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Growth of the Use of GNU-Linux OS and FLOSS
by das 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

Please suggest links or documents on the growth of the use of GNU-Linux systems and FLOSS. I want statistics and good overview too.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] fedora support and reliability question.
by Debarshi Ray 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

> any ways the point is that can fedora have that kind of support > because new versions come every now and then so can we look for > support on fedora? Only community support is available. > for example if I am using fedora core 6 how long can I get updates and > new packages for the same? Updates for Fedora Core 6 wil be available on the official Fedora repositories till Fedora 8 Test 2 is released. After that no new updates are added. Regards, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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Ubuntu Edgy CDs
by Anurag 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

Hi! We have received the shipment of around 40 Ubuntu 6.10 `Edgy' CDs. If anyone is interested in having, then please drop by HBCSE. Write me offline to coordinate. Anurag -- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ n. (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Feb Meet and SELF Conference
by Koustubha Kale 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

>> Dangerous. Its as if the the guys controlling the domain can >> effectively >> cyber squat his own customer. Has anyone faced such a situaltion? >yes, and went through hell un-squatting him. Finally had to pay him >off (could have gone to court but the delay would have killed me) Did you have to pay off the Domain Registrar or some squatter who had registered the domain? Generally a domain can not be registered by anybody unless you do not renew registration. There is a very decent period given in between. Also I have never seen a domain name based pricing by any domain registrar for new name registrations let alone a renewal. So its out of question for a name renewal wherein the name is legally yours and you can very well shift the registrar if they refuse to play ball. I suppose also that in case of such problems being created by a registrar you can complain to ICANN or some such regional authority. Regards Koustubha Kale ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front

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Need help/advice for GNU/Linux supported Mother Boards/Chipsets
by Dinesh Shah 04 Feb '07

04 Feb '07

Hi All!, I want to buy new mother board for my AMD Athelon 64 CPU. Before I make a purchase, it would be great if we know all the on-board devices are supported by Linux Kernel. I have 3 choices 1. Asus - K8V-MX (http://www.asus.com.tw/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=14&l3=276&model=1189&modelmenu…) Chipset: VIA K8M890 VIA VT8237A Audio: Realtek ALC660 6-Channel Codec LAN: Realtek RTL8201CL 10/100M LAN PHY 2. Mercury - KVM800M (http://www.mercury-pc.com/product-detail.php?link=p-mainboards&subtitle=Mai…) Chipset: VIA K8M800/8237 VGA: Embedded UniChrome II 3D Graphics with 64M share memory LAN: VIA VT6103 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet PHY Audio: Realtek ALC655 6-channel audio Codec (Compliant with AC 97 2.3 specification) 3. MSI - K8MM-V (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID…) Chipset • VIA(r) K8M800 Chipset - HyperTransport™ connection to AMD(r) Athlon™ 64 processor - 8 or 16 bit control/address/data transfer both directions - 800/600/400/200MHz "Double Data Rate" operation both direction - AGP v3.0 compliant with 8x transfer mode - Graphic integrated • VIA(r) VT8237R Chipset - Integrated Faster Ethernet LPC - Integrated Hardware Sound Blaster/Direct Sound AC97 audio - Ultra DMA 66/100/133 master mode PCI EIDE controller - ACPI - Supports 2 Serial ATA ports Any help/pointer in deciding the compatibility will be appreciated. I have done some google search but found more non-English pages then English pages. TIA for your help. With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-)

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problem with mounting usb drive in debian etch
by Pradnyesh Sawant 04 Feb '07

04 Feb '07

Hello, i recently upgraded debian from sarge to etch (apt-get dist-upgrade), and since then my usb ain't getting detected. initially my /etc/fstab lines were as follows ### /dev/sda1 /media/usb1 vfat noauto,users,uid=500 0 0 /dev/sda2 /media/usb2 vfat noauto,users,uid=500 0 0 ### but now i get the following error: mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist i checked /dev and saw that "sda?" does not exist at all. but something called "usbdev[123].1_ep[00][81]" exists. using them, however gave me the following error: mount: /media/usb1/ is not a block device big brother google told to check /proc/partitions, but that shows only my HDD partitions, and doesn't show any information about the usb drive :( Thanks for all the help -- warm regards, Pradnyesh Sawant -- If you find a path with no obstacles, it probably doesn't lead anywhere. --Anon

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[OT] Some Technology Observations.
by Rony 04 Feb '07

04 Feb '07

Hello All, The Homi Bhabha Auditorium at TIFR is just like a cinema hall and it has a projector at the back just like a cinema projector but the difference is that it is a digital projector and for the first time I saw such a big cinema grade and screen size digital projector. Just as some TVs had come out with 3D vision where 2 images with different polarizations were interlaced and broadcast and then viewed through polarized specs, TIFR could also experiment with this technique and give 3D projection a try. Another use for the digital projector would be the future cinema concepts that the film industry is trying out. They plan to set up digital cinemas where the film is simultaneously released through broadband or satellite broadcasts in order to avoid piracy. It is also usefull for Movie On Demand systems where movies can be randomly selected for the particular session without waiting for the cans to arrive. Another observation was that whenever every speaker wanted to start his/her presentation, it would take a few minutes to setup their laptops as they would be connected to the vga cable on stage. Instead of all this wiring, is it possible to use the wireless LAN to broadcast the video-out directly to the projector through a receiver interface? What would be needed is a small application ( which can become a default in future distros ) in the laptop that compresses the video-out and sends it out through the wLAN to the hall's internal computer which then sends it to the projector. So every speaker simply clicks the application button in the laptop to start broadcasting. This will also give total wireless freedom for the speakers to move with their laptops. A wLAN runs at 50 Mbps which means 6.25 MBytes per second which should be more than sufficient for compressed video streams and internet access together. About 2 years ago I had also put forward a concept on this list, where a single projector is used to broadcast multiple images that can be selectively observed by different members of the audience. The projector would project image frames at high speeds. These images would be a combination of different video outputs from different sources. The members of the audience wear special LCD specs that work as a transparent window with a black LCD shutter. There are 2 or mode films being projected in multi frame sequences and the shutter in the glass opens only when its corresponding frame appears. So different people are simultaneously watching different movies in the same hall, using the same projector. Sound is wireless broadcast to individual headphones. Though this is far fetched for now, a small experiment can be carried out to watch at least 2 movies together. There are 2 video outputs available at a frame rate of 25 frames per second and each frame consisting of 2 fields interlaced together. So the video field frequency is 50 Hz. for each movie. The projector is running at 100 Hz. and it interlaces the 2 separate movie fields one after the other in a sequence. The glass shutter is yet to be developed, so a mechanical shutter can be used for experiments. It will be a fan blade type shutter, similar to the ones used in film projectors. 2 persons will individually view the screen through these shutters, but they will be phased to open only at their respective field projection and close during the other. So while person A is watching movie A, person B is watching movie B. Now if the 2 + 2 fields are polarized too, then during each frame session, 2 polarized fields are available. So now 4 people can watch 4 different movies using a combination of a shutter as well as polarized glasses, although with jitter. This can be reduced by increasing frame rate frequencies as technology advances. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Linuxers February 2007