> Here is one small example:
> In Feb 2007, M$ with the help of local police started raiding on different
> places in West Bengal for pirated windows.
> As they came to Durgapur (Dist Burdwan), the local cybercafe owners were too
> tensed , some of them closed their shops until those people went back. But
> some others chose GNU/Linux right away. Our LUG members installed GNU/Linux
> in few of the cafes , where in some they installed themselves. And they are
> happy with it, they don't want to go back to windows any more.
Great job! Keep it up.
> That means it can be done in a larger scale.
For that you need people who have the ability to dream, instead of
laughing at them. :-)
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> http://www.in.redhat.com/AppComparisonList.php3
This one says there is a Corel Draw for GNU/Linux too. 'Pirated'
copies of it might be unavailable, but then using unauthorised copies
is just another problem waiting to catch up with the cyber cafes.
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> for a person who hasnt visited a cybercafe
You are misquoting. I said I have not visited one for a long time.
>> Moreover customers do not
>> appreciate going to a cyber cafe just to plug in their floppy or
>> pendrive and have a virus remove all their precious data.
> doesnt happen
What does not happen?
>> Secondly a cyber cafe is a place people primarily for browsing the Web
>> using a Web browser.
> how do you know this?
That was how things were last time I paid a visit.
>> I am not sure how many cyber cafe's have the
>> necessary bandwidth to allow _all_ their users to _simultaneously_
>> engage in voice chat or video chat.
> if you are not sure, why post on it?
<OT>
/me remembers those days when someone with no idea of the GPL and the
BSD license would argue how one is good and the other is bad
</OT>
> even if they have *one* doze machine they have to pay the full
> licensing fee
So what is the problem? Let them pay it then, if it is indeed
'impossible' to try any other alternative, and fight the directive in
court or wherever applicable.
>> I do not have a cyber cafe anywhere with 4km of where I have been
>> living for the past 4 years.
> if you want to post on this thread, travel and study first
So are you the maintainer of this thread or the new ListAdmin of this
mailing list?
> how much does your institute charge per hour for the use?
Less than 20 paise per hour.
> Are you serious in comparing engineering college students with the average
> cybercafe user
Yes, why not? If you think the average Turbo C++/Windows loving Indian
engineering student is any different than the average cyber cafe user,
then you are badly misguided.
> > Want some proof? Here it is:
> > http://glug-nith.org/~spectre/?article=20070129-0108-NITH-Takeover
> i dont see any proof
You are either blind or a liar.
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Hi,
Novell is working on a localization project for the GNOME desktop environment. We have done localization in 5 Indian Languages
Bengali
Hindi
Gujarati
Marathi
Tamil
We are planning Localization Usability workshop for Gujarati whereby we are inviting people to test the Gujarati localization and provide their feedback. We will compile this feedback and use it for improving the Gujarati localization status.
The schedule and venue are mentioned below:
Language: Gujarati
Venue: Mumbai (Novell Office)
Date: March 31, 2007
We are looking for 10 volunteers for this Usability Workshop. Volunteers should either be regulars user of desktop with a Gujarati interface or should be able to read, write and speak Gujarati well.
In case you are interested in contributing towards this effort, please contact me either on the list. Let me know if you want to communicate off-list.
Thanks.
Regards,
RahulKrishna Gupta
Novell India Pvt. Ltd.
(O) +91-22-28342244
>> In any case, I think the learning curve of GIMP and Blender will never
>> be as steep as keeping a Windows machine virus free. Why? This is
>> because the latter is close to impossible. Moreover customers do not
>> appreciate going to a cyber cafe just to plug in their floppy or
> pendrive and have a virus remove all their precious data.
> Oh give me a break and be practical for once.
Bad joke.
> I've not had a single virus or
> spyware on my Windows box for over 3 years. We've had Rony on the list who
> had to reinstalled Windows after a considerable amount of time. If you use it
> properly, its pretty manageable. Yeah every customer in the cafe might not,
Out of the whole crowd of Windows users, how many qualify into the
category you are talking about?
> but then in the cafe I converted, the owner would run anti-spyware and
> anti-virus scans thoroughly every night before he left. He hadn't had a
> problem even once.
> Dream on. I've seen that happening. A couple of the people having webcam
> sessions and a few others playing Counter Strike online simultaneously on a
> 512K line. Then again, the cafe soon switched to a very affordable 1M
> connection.
How many is 'a couple and few others'?
> You'll lose even more users rather than gaining them if you try this. Trying
> to pull out people from their comfort zone is a bad idea if tried
> aggressively. Have patience and go gradually.
Asking people to use Firefox is pulling them out of their comfort
zone? And who asked you to try aggressively? And who did not have
patience? You would do well to read a mail properly before replying.
> And seriously, NO ONE is interested in freedom. They aren't
> interested in learning about it either.
Is it? Then why don't they pay the tax or fee and get on with it?
Freedom is not about understanding patent and copyright laws, it is
about knowing that you can legally copy and distribute the software.
> Seriously, get out of your self spunfreedom cocoon and be practical.
*sigh*
>> Moreover it would be nice to have the cyber cafe association issue a
>> press release expressing their preference towards free software
>> wherever feasible. It would be an excellant oppurtunity to let the
>> comman man taste free software.
> LMAO!
You might end up laughing with a naked arse.
> P.S. And btw, next time you reply to this thread, try to make sure that you've
> actually done something about this issue.
I do not have a cyber cafe anywhere with 4km of where I have been
living for the past 4 years. The only place that is mainly used for
Internet and Web browsing is my institute's computer centre, where
every machine runs Ubuntu. The centre has always been haunted by first
year guys who do not have a computer of their own, and there has been
no decrease in this trend. Not a single soul had to be trained to use
Firefox on Ubuntu.
Want some proof? Here it is:
http://glug-nith.org/~spectre/?article=20070129-0108-NITH-Takeover
God save you,
Debarshi
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Got my Triband working today :-)) . Did a little googling for rebooting
the modem.
From
1. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expect> and
2.
<http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-programming-scripting/63702-can-you-…>
I think this little script for rebooting a GLB-502T can be scheduled
with cron. Its bound to work for other modems too; with some modifications.
<script>
#!/usr/bin/expect
spawn telnet 192.168.1.1
expect "BusyBox on localhost login: "
send "root\r"
expect "Password: "
send "password\r"
expect "# "
send "reboot\r"
expect "%"
send "exit\r"
expect eof
</script>
Is surely better than timers and such.
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> The cafe owners would n't be much interested in terms like FOSS and free
> software, whichwould be difficult for them to digest.
Not really. It is true that they won't bother about _all_ the
freedoms, but when you tell them you can freely copy the thing and
distribute (for price or no price) among fellow cafe owners and oher
people, they would surely be interested. After all they are already
feeling the heat due ti the licensing fees isn't it.
> It would be beneficial to concentrate
> on cost ( free as in inexpensive or phukat in Marathi :) ) . So , if any
> of the members on the list are aware of the cost of the pricing ( licensing
> and others if any ) , it can be shown how much money they can saved by
> the cafe owners. I am sure that in the money saved they will be able to buy
> atleast one more computer.
True.
> correct - stick to converting the server. Nothing else will work.
I am curious to know what are the M$ things users demand. I have not
been to a cyber cafe for a long time, and hence have lost touch with
the current state of things.
Regards,
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Hello,
Hard core emacs users probably know this, but those who don't here
goes :
Emacs has a tetris buffer !!! :-)
In an open window do : M-x tetris
and play Tetris :-)
As it is an Emacs buffer just kill it with C-x k
Enjoy :-)
And thanks to Chaitanya ``C.G" Gupta for telling me this :-)
Regards,
- vihan
Hello,
This is an interesting article written around 1986 by Stallman -
around the epoch of the GNU project. Enjoy!!!
http://www.donhopkins.com/drupal/node/109?dupe=with_honor
Thanks Chaitanya for telling me about this :-)
Regards,
- vihan