Linuxers June 2007

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Fwd: fedora for ARM
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lennert Buytenhek <buytenh(a)wantstofly.org> Date: 02-Jun-2007 08:59 Subject: fedora for ARM To: fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com Hi all, I haven't been active on this mailing list since 2004 or so, so let me (re-)introduce myself. I'm Lennert Buytenhek, and I live in the Netherlands. As far as open source contributions go (other things I've done probably aren't very interesting), in the past I have written an ext2 resizer (called ext2resize), contributed ext2 support to PartEd, rewrote the bridging support in Linux 2.3.something, hacked on User Mode Linux, and a bunch of other stuff, and these days, among other things, I am occasionally seen hacking on ARM Linux kernel Things. Recently, I produced an unofficial (but-seems-to-work-all-right) port of FC6 to the ARM architecture (after having ported FC2/3/4 to ARM in the past): http://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/fedora/ The current set of diffs[*][**] is available for inspection here: http://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/fedora/diffs/ I'm posting here because I would really really like to get the relevant diffs merged back into Fedora. I believe that ARM is well-supported in the various upstream projects that Fedora packages, and so this should be a relatively painless process (if you look at the diffs referenced above, most diffs are actually only spec file changes to cope with the addition of a new architecture.) I'll follow up with a mail with thoughts about secondary architectures. thanks, Lennert [*] Some of which were produced by Russell King (ARM Linux kernel maintainer) or Ralph Siemsen (Netwinder project.) [**] NB: not necessarily the same set that we'll end up submitting for inclusion. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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Re:A meet next week
by Easwar Hariharan 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

> > > > > Mohan Nayaka wrote: > > > On 6/1/07, Easwar Hariharan <meindian523(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> I would like to know more about it too....... > > >> > > > Then shed your fears and install it! > > > > I have the Fedora 7 i386 ISO available (fedora has a DVD iso only), > > contact me off-list if one can come to goregaon along with something to > > copy it on (i do not have access to a dvd-writer as of now). The iso > > size is close to 3GB. I thought this thread was supposed to decide the timing and location of the meet. ;) It's going OT day-by-day....... I'm busy downloading the F7 x86_64 DVD iso, so can carry it across to > the venue. maybe i can even show you all a test install on a lappy that > i carry with me. Anyways, i'm just waiting for my connection to get > upgraded > to 1mbps (happening round the 11th of june, then i'll get my hands dirty > with > pungi and build my own *everything* 2-3 DVD install, a-la debian. Where's Nagarjuna?He's got to take the call regarding when and where the meet will take place..... Regards, Easwar

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RGF-Sarai CSDS programme for short-term FLOSS fellowships
by Frederick Noronha 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

Call for proposals: RGF-Sarai, CSDS, short-term FLOSS fellowships 1 Introduction The Sarai programme of the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies, Delhi (http://www.sarai. net) is pleased to announce fellowships for projects related to Free/Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS) activities. This year, we have partnered with the Rajiv Gandhi Foundation (RGF) who are providing support for work in the specific area of computing, and localisation in five Indian languages, namely, Assamese, Hindi, Kashmiri, Oriya, and Urdu. We also invite proposals from projects in other FLOSS areas, especially ones that are relevant to educational, social, and community needs. Any project that meets the criteria given below is eligible for the fellowships, but we are particularly interested in: o Indian language computing, including work on fonts, rendering, locales, input methods, spell-checking, etc., as well as in advanced technologies like OCR, handwriting recognition, and speech-to-text. o Localisation into Indian languages of user interfaces, and translation of help documents for FLOSS applications. o In the interest of sustained development, we would like to see the enhancement of, and extensions for projects funded as part of past Sarai FLOSS fellowships. In particular, we draw attention to NewsRack (http://newsrack.in), Hindawi (http://www.indicybers.com), and ApnaOpus (http://apnaopus.var.cc). o Documentation for users of FLOSS tools, particularly in the area of Indian language computing. The production of video tutorials would be welcome. o Development of graphics, multimedia, and publishing tools. This would include applications for audio/video editing, animation, and desktop publishing. Enhancement of existing FLOSS tools is especially encouraged. o Putting together, distributing, and supporting a complete Indian language distribution, using FLOSS operating systems, and tools. o Collaboration software, and groupware solutions. o Writing Linux device drivers, and front-ends for common hardware, such as wireless cards, graphics cards, scanners, and printers. The other significant difference from past practice is that we will be asking for more of a collaborative approach from the fellows, both among one another, and with people at Sarai. The collaboration need not be in the actual development, but can consist of an ongoing conversation about one's work, its direction, and current status. While this has been an implicit expectation in the past, this time we are making the requirement explicit. The exact details of these will be worked out with the selected fellows, but will include things like discussions over IRC, email, and postings on the Sarai Project Resource Centre (PRC) mailing list. Fellows will also be asked to prepare a timeline for the projects, with intermediate milestones, and will be expected to adhere to them. 2 Applying for the fellowships We invite students, developers, researchers, and practitioners interested in the FLOSS arena to apply for the fellowships. While there is no prescribed format for the applications, we expect them to be in sufficient detail for a reviewer to sensibly evaluate them. Attention to details, such as a plan of work that addresses what is possible to accomplish within the limited project period, a projection of how the work might be continued after that, and a discussion of the possible impact of the project, is strongly recommended. In particular, we will look favourably on projects aimed at eventual deployment, rather than development per se. Please mail your application, along with a resume, to floss at sarai.net , with the subject line of "RGF-Sarai FLOSS fellowships". As this information is intended to be public, also subscribe to the PRC mailing list at https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/prc, and post a copy there, failing which your final proposal will be forwarded there by one of us. Enquiries are invited at floss at sarai.net , and on the PRC list, including questions on how to frame proposals. The last date of submission is midnight IST on Sun., June 25th, 2007. The projects will run for a total of about six months, with a final workshop to be held at Sarai, CSDS, Delhi, where the fellows will be expected to present a summary of their work. Besides this, as part of our engagement with the RGF, we will be holding workshops in regional locations, and the FLOSS fellows will be asked to be present at events local to them. The total amount of the fellowship will be Rs. 70, 000. Conditions and other details see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa

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Re: * Re: [ILUG-BOM] A Full Aubuntu.
by jtd 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

On Friday 01 June 2007 14:28, Praveen A wrote: > 2007/6/1, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)au-kbc.org>: > > this is pure BS. No one migrates to foss/linux because of > > freedom. They migrate because it works. The guys who are mouthing > > off about freedom have been struggling for 20 years to build a > > kernel While the observation from the "effect" side is true AND a view from the technical side is also true the fact is that technical "superiority" lasts for a tiny fraction of the lifetime of a software package and is at best a very limited view of reality. The fact is that technical superiority is the result of freedom to collaborate, which is completely lacking in closed software. This inspite of closed software having vastly larger numbers and resources for both users and developers. Infact the entire edifice of closed software based on actively restricting collaboration and is so shaky it's a wonder it has managed to survive so long. The irony is that most of the apps bringing in revenue are the one trying to enable chargeable collaboration in every sphere. Further the technical superiority argument is a red herring and the "failure" of hurd and thousands of other open software are because of innumerable factors that has nothing to do with freedom. The visibility of failure is also due to the openeness of development. Has any body counted the number of failed efforts of closed companies?. In the oganisations i have seen in the past the ratio was 1 success for 5 failures. And by FOSS standards these successes would at best been labeled alpha software. Like all things free, it's value is realised when someone else has to pick the tab for the cleanup - be it air, water or freedom. Let's not mixup cause and effect. While one is fully justified in using some arbitary dfinition of success / tech superiority etc in ones metrics One cannot subvert freedom as a result of these measurements so that the stats look good. -- Rgds JTD

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A meet next week
by Nagarjuna G. 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

My collaborator in the SELF project, and President of FSF Europe, Georg Greve, will be visiting HBCSE, TIFR next week, from monday to thursday. He is in India from 3rd June till 15th June. He leads the free software movement in Europe. He was to come for the SELF Conference during February, but due to problems with planning he could not make it. Please let me know which day should we have a meeting in Mumbai. And friends in other locations, let me know if you like to invite him for an event, we can explore a possibility. more about him at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_C._F._Greve SELF Project http://selfproject.eu -- Nagarjuna G.

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