Linuxers May 2009

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52 discussions

Re: [ILUG-BOM] feedback on gnu-khata (Rony)
by Pravin Dhayfule 03 Jun '09

03 Jun '09

> > I want to ask one question to all readers, Will the end-user ever care >> if we have postgresql or mysql at the back-end unless he is a programmer >> or a techno person? >> >> > The objections were raised by a programmer cum hacker and his opinion does > carry weight if it helps improvise and simplify the target software. > End Users indeed are concerned. May be not with the name, rather with the deployment. When we build and distribute Desktop Applications, end users assume that they can just install the application through a setup file and its done. When they want a backup, they just need to click on a "Backup Menu Item" and enter the "Save As" file name. These are the perspectives of end users. Now it doesnt matter if we use My-SQl or any other DB, the users are concerned with ease to deploy.... Bye Regards

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Never buy a Reliance Telcom product
by Pravin Dhayfule 31 May '09

31 May '09

> > I had registered my grievance at the Consumer Online Resource & Empowerment > Centre (http://www.ccccore.co.in/ or http://www.core.nic.in/). Let's see > what happens. > Core indeed works.... However you need to do much than that. I had been cheated by ICICI Lombard people in similar fashion. They sold me Health insurance through phone, and told me that its applicable only on credit card. Fearing hidden costs, I told them I dont want to pay through credit card, but they insisted that there wont be any other charges apart from Premium and service charge.... Eventually I realized that they converted my 20K premium to EMIs and started charding me EMI.... On calling them they denied of not making me aware of EMI. When asked for cancellation of Policy, they demanded 70% of the premium as cancellation charge. I launched a complaint with Core.nic.in and also sent a mail t ICICI Lombard grievence department demanding the recording of my call with Lombard during the time of purchase... They retrived the recording and as I said they realized that I was not made aware of EMI. Finally they agreed to cancel the policy and gave me complete refund along with Service charges. *Now here's what you can do... Call up Reliance and ask them to provide you the recording of the telephonic conversation between you and the executive where he/she assured you about the FREE service. If they deny launch a compliant stating that you are not provided information. If RTI act covers telecom, then go ahead and file RTI suit against them.* *I was told that my money is gone, but I got it back. You just need patience and right move. All the best.* Bye Regards

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Wireless internet, choice of
by Ashok Sinha 31 May '09

31 May '09

Anyone willing to suggest which wireless internet (USB) I should consider - I am going to be in Pune (Camp area) - Using linux on laptop ie. linux comaptibility - Using XP on desktop - Speed not important - No limitation of download preferred. - Would be happy to spend Rs 750 pm or so. - Would travel occasionally Thanks -- Ashok Sinha

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Never buy a Reliance Telcom product
by Pankaj Jangid 31 May '09

31 May '09

Hi, After much research I purchased a Reliance Netconnect broadband but to discover there pathetic customer care. I have written a my experience on my livejournal blog, http://jangid.livejournal.com/27778.html, so that others are not cheated. Pasting it here for readers' convenience. /* I had applied for Reliance Netconnect plus wireless internet service on 23rd of March. And that was the last day for getting the 2 month bundled unlimited usage (10GB) free; that is worth Rs 3500. The next day I have got a call from RCOM that I am eligible for this offer. The official also asked me if I would like to see a demonstration of the wireless device. I said yes and after seeing the demo, at my home, I agreed to purchase this. I paid Rs 3500 to the dealer for the device on 04/04/2009. I got the device and connection was enabled. Everything was good. The problem begins. Contrary to my belief that I'll get Rs 0 bill for the first two months, at end of the first month I have got a bill, of Rs 383, from RCOM. The bill amount should have been Rs 0. I have registered a complaint with them. I haven't got any response. Instead I am getting regular calls from RCOM for non payment of bills. Every time I get a call I tell them the full story. And each official agreed to resolve my issue. Now one day I planned to visit my native place, Jaipur, to meet my parents. I was hoping that my business/work will not suffer because I can work remotely using the device I purchased from RCOM. I reached Jaipur and discovered that my internet is not working. I called up the toll free number of RCOM (1 800 3000 5555) and learnt from the official that my connection is deactivated due to non payment of bill. @#$#$%&%. I also learnt that a new bill is also generated for the second month. The second bill is of Rs 1125. Again the bill amount should have been Rs 0. I again registered a complained. I was told that the problem will be resolved in 24 hours. I had registered my grievance at the Consumer Online Resource & Empowerment Centre (http://www.ccccore.co.in/ or http://www.core.nic.in/). Let's see what happens. */ Do forward this to your friends who are deciding to buy a wireless device for an internet connection. -- Thanks & Regards Pankaj <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/f/frank_lloyd_wright.html>

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[OT] New Wireless Broadband USB Modems.
by Rony 30 May '09

30 May '09

Hello, Reliance and Tata Indicom have now come out with USB modems that provide broadband speeds theoretically upto 3.1 Mbps in major cities with National low speed roaming in other areas. A client of mine told me that his friend uses a Reliance one and clocked upto 1.5 Mbps on it. Reliance promo emails mention peak hour speeds between 512K and 1Mbps. Tata also provides a wireless router that talks wirelessly to the tower and provides a wired+wireless LAN for the office. MTNL and BSNL broadband are getting competition. Great! Now use your note/netbooks for video conferencing on the move. No more linesman telling you that your modem or wiring is bad. Is this the 3G thing by the back door before the licenses are issued or something in between, before 3G makes a big bang? Will 3G bring in something even newer? -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Which is the cheapest hand-held available?
by Deboo 29 May '09

29 May '09

Which is the cheapest / low-cost hand-held computer (not mobile phone) available which even a por man anywhere in India can buy with little money? If it can run linux, great.

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Installing open office 3
by Ashok Sinha 29 May '09

29 May '09

So I down loaded the RPM package (a tra.gz file) of Oo3. Unpzipped it in a new folder named Open office in my Downloads folder. I double clicked Setup. Got an error msg that Java is not installed. Now what? -- Ashok Sinha

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[OT] Triband clocks 22Mbps.....No kidding.
by Rony 29 May '09

29 May '09

Hello, Today at one place I was amazed to see triband going out of control. DVDs getting downloaded in one hour, large files in minutes. It was an unlimited 512 Kbps scheme but was overclocking. In between it would come down to 600 to 700 KBytes per second, otherwise it was above 1 MBytes per sec. It was the AT&T server connection (username@a). While this utopia is in bloom since a week or two and may last a few days more, It shows that our telephone lines are capable of giving 22 Mbps which I actually saw in the new D-Link modem stats. Upload 1 Mbps and download max. 22 Mbps. Seeing is believing. Gosh! MTNL when will you open your tap to full? We could be on a virtual LAN and share files with each other just like the cablewalas do in some areas. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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equivalent of icponfig on widoze
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 28 May '09

28 May '09

I am using Hathway cable internet where they bind your ip settings to your pc. If I unplug the lan cable from the pc and plug it into my laptop, I cannot browse. They are using some sort of dhcp with a static ip (I know that sounds funny - but that's what they say). When I called the helpdesk, they said what I need to do is release the ip from my machine and then renew it on my laptop. something like ipcfg release and then ipcfg renew. The guy obviously has no clue how to do it in linux. What would be the equivalent in linux. I am using debian 5 and kubuntu 9.04 on the two machines. Thanks, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Homoeopath, Linuxer. Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home.

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Installing open office 3
by Ashok Sinha 28 May '09

28 May '09

I am running linpus linux which is based on fedora core and would like to know if it is possible to ver 3 of open office. I was checking there was a version for RPM and another for Debian. Which one should I download? -- Ashok Sinha

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