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Recipe for a Successful Linux User Group
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

The most recent version of this essay can be found at http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Linux_PR/newlug.html. Recipe for a Successful Linux User Group by Rick Moen See the full essay online ****** Really good. -FN 1. You need a Web page. 2. Your Web page needs a reasonable URL. 3. You need a regular meeting location. 4. You need a regular meeting time. 5. You need to avoid meeting-time conflicts. 6. You need to make sure that meetings happen as advertised, without fail. 7. You need a core of several Linux enthusiasts. 8. Your core volunteers need out-of-band methods of communication. 9. You need to get on the main lists of LUGs, and keep your entries accurate. * http://www.ssc.com/glue/ * http://lugww.counter.li.org/ * http://nlug.org/webring/ * http://www.redhat.com/apps/community/LUG/ * http://www.linux.org/groups/ * http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/User_Groups/ * http://dir.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Software/ Operating_Systems/Unix/Linux/User_Groups/ 10. You must have login access to maintain your Web pages, as needed. 11. Design your Web page to be forgiving of deferred maintenance. 12. Always include the day of the week, when you cite event dates. Always check that day of the week, first, using gcal [2] (or cal). gcal is your friend. 13. Place time-sensitive and key information prominently near the top of your main Web page. 14. Include maps and directions to your events. 15. Emphasise on your main page that your meeting will be free of charge and open to the public (if it is). 16. You'll want to include an RSVP "mailto" hyperlink, on some events. 17. Use referral pages. 18. Make sure every page has a revision date and maintainer link. 19. Check all links, at intervals. 20. You may want to consider establishing a LUG mailing list. 21. You don't need to be in the Internet Service Provider business. 22. Don't go into any other business, either. 23. Walk the walk. LUG checklist. The following checklist may be useful for your group, once established. 1. Web page: a. Meetings: [ ] Current meeting info? Is it prominent? [ ] Day of the week? Beginning time? Ending time? [ ] Double-checked day/date matches against a calendar? (E.g., is the "Friday, March 28" you listed an error, because the 28th is a Thursday?) [ ] Location? [ ] Map? [ ] Directions (car, public transit)? Parking tips? [ ] Information on the next several meetings? [ ] RSVP mailto link on meetings where this is needed? [ ] Note that meetings are free and open to the public (if they are)? [ ] If there's a special fee, is it disclosed next to the event listing? [ ] If location / time / date formula has changed recently, is this noted prominently? [ ] Have you checked for event conflicts with other nearby groups, or with holidays? b. General: [ ] Includes event date-formulas (e.g., 4th Tuesdays)? Prominently? [ ] Maintainer mailto link? [ ] Last-revised date? c. Periodically (maybe every quarter): [ ] Checked all links on your site for dead links? [ ] Checked your Web server's logs for pages requested but not found? (You'll want to put a referral page at that URL.) [ ] Read all your Web content attentively for outdated content? 2. Other, periodical: [ ] Reviewed/updated all LUG lists that have entries concerning your group? [ ] Reviewed all sites that link to yours? Advised their webmasters of needed corrections? Last revised: 2003-08-04 Having seen (and run) quite a few Linux user groups (LUGs), and observed some thrive and others die, I can hazard some firm recommendations. If you're thinking of starting a LUG, or are running one now, please ponder these lessons, drawn from other LUGs' experience. In fact, please consider reviewing this list from time to time, as a kind of checklist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ d88888b d8b db Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa India 88' 888o 88 f r e d @ b y t e s f o r a l l . o r g 88ooo 88V8o 88 http://www.bytesforall.org * http://fn.swiki.net 88~~~ 88 V8o88 Phone 0091.832.2409490 Mobile 09822 122436 88 88 V888 784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Sonarbhat Saligao Goa 403511 YP VP V8P Writing ... with a difference, on issues that matter

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Re: Linux Migration
by santosh rao 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

hi kenneth, " I would suggest that you identify which people need to use VB software and dont migrate them in the first stage. In second stage, perhaps you can have a Win3K server with remote desktop client running on Linux to give access to the VB Software. We worked that succssfully in an office with 75+ users. " i am interested in this. Can you shed more light on the implementation. If this can be done with VB is it possible to do the same with tally.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Help
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

On Wednesday 02 March 2005 09:33, Amit Bagadia wrote: > Hi people > i recently tried installing FC3 on my system, > the first problem i faced was it did not detect my mouse. > the second problem i faced was while trying to label the partitions > my version of FC3 setup showed hung up screens. > i had to abondon my setup. > anyone can tell me whats the problem? First put a meaningful subject line like "FC3 hangs during install". "Help" is (almost) useful when you are drowning or being whacked by someone... FC3 and ilk are unstable and not for newbies. Use debian sarge (pcquest dvd). It is stable, simple to install and simpler to maintain with an ( cable modem / ADSL) internet connection. And you will always get support from me. rgds jtd

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[Commercial] Part/Full time sysadmin required
by Gabin Kattukaran 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

Hi, We're an engineering/manufacturing company with a small (~25 pc) network - linux on the server side, linux/xp/nt on the workstations. We're in the process of migrating to linux. We're looking for someone who can sys/net admin the setup. Since the setup is small, full time (9 to 5) commitment may not be required. Those interested can mail me (off list) at GKattukaran(a)mepl.co.in -gabin -- You can't push on a string.

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[Commercial]Learn Linux Kernel programming from Experts
by Concepts Systems 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Re:modem problem
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

hello, >> my modem is internal---motorola sm56 PCI >> my kernel version is 2.4.21-4.EL vidya You are done. AFAIK redhat wasn't supporting this modem after 7.1 plug.org.in/pipermail/plug-mail/2003-June/008510.html try googling 'motorola sm56 pci modem RHL'. You'll meet the club. Another noodle who bought this modem and then tried to get it working on lin Gishu

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Reconfiguring Debian while upgrading machine and usingtheold hdd
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

On Wednesday 02 March 2005 11:21, Vinayakam Murugan wrote: > > Which mobo (chipset, make, model no.)? > > P4 3 GHz 800 MHz FSB 1 MB L2 Cache > 865 Chipset Mother Board with N Videa G force 64 MB AGP Graphics > Card You will need the nvidia drivers, which is closed. So be ready to face problems a few months down the line. Get em from the nvidia site. I865 is supported in the 2.4.24 and abv kernels. I have used several i865 boards. Uptime of several months. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Reconfiguring Debian while upgrading machine and using theold hdd
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

On Wednesday 02 March 2005 10:39, Vinayakam Murugan wrote: > Hi > > I am running Debian 3.1 testing. I am upgrading from a PII machine > to a PIV 2.5 ghz , 64 MB Video RAM, Cd writer . > > What would I need to do to use my old HDD without a reformat? any > things to take care of? No need to reformat at all. Just plug it on the same ide port as your old system. After that you will have to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 for using the right X11 driver. Then run modconf and select/remove the apropriate modules. Reboot. Which mobo (chipset, make, model no.)? rgds jtd

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About GNU/Hurd
by Senthil Kumaran 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

I would like to know about GNU/Hurd ... Does anyone of you have GNU/Hurd cds? --sen-- Be a man of Deeds, don't be a man of Needs... Blog: http://stylesen.blogspot.com

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[ILUG-BOM] Reconfiguring Debian while upgrading machine and using the old hdd
by Vinayakam Murugan 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

Hi I am running Debian 3.1 testing. I am upgrading from a PII machine to a PIV 2.5 ghz , 64 MB Video RAM, Cd writer . What would I need to do to use my old HDD without a reformat? any things to take care of? -- Warm Regards ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vinayak

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Help
by Amit Bagadia 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

Hi people i recently tried installing FC3 on my system, the first problem i faced was it did not detect my mouse. the second problem i faced was while trying to label the partitions my version of FC3 setup showed hung up screens. i had to abondon my setup. anyone can tell me whats the problem?

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dailing problem for internal modem
by Guntupalli Karunakar 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

Hi, I have a Dell inspiron 510m laptop. from lspci -v it shows. 000:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [Generic]) Subsystem: Conexant: Unknown device 5422 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 7 I/O ports at d400 [size=256] I/O ports at d080 [size=128] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version I installed slmodem modules. it gets the modem through alsa , & detected by wvdialconf , when below is run. cartoon:~# slmodemd -c INDIA --alsa SmartLink Soft Modem: version 2.9.10 Feb 8 2005 14:54:01 symbolic link `/dev/ttySL0' -> `/dev/pts/2' created. modem `modem:1' created. TTY is `/dev/pts/2' Use `/dev/ttySL0' as modem device, Ctrl+C for termination. But dialing doesnt work, there is no sound ( even after adjusting alsamixer settings - Phone) & it doesnt dial? What could be the problem. below is output of wvdial trying to dial vsnl ( 172226 ) cartoon:~# wvdial vsnl --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.54.0 --> Initializing modem. --> Sending: ATZ ATZ OK --> Sending: ATX3M1L3 ATX3M1L3 OK --> Sending: ATQ0 L3 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 ATQ0 L3 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 OK --> Modem initialized. --> Sending: ATDT172226 --> Waiting for carrier. ATDT172226 NO ANSWER --> Unknown dial response string. --> Disconnecting at Fri Feb 18 18:49:00 2005 Regards, Karunakar

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Fingerprint reader
by Bilal Ahmed Mazhar 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

Dear Kenneth Gonsalves Any kind of input interface can be accepted. But USB will be prefered as it is moving towards a common interface now days and also providing extra benefit. Regards, Bilal Ahmed Mazhar

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Abt Device Driver in Linux
by deepak shingan 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

hi friends i m a PG student ...This year i m thinking abt a device driver project in Linux probably printer driver. I dont know much abt linux internal working and also want help abt Printer driver. So plz suggest me any referance/book/web-site that u find helpful for me. Thanks in Advance. deep --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.

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Fwd: a battle won: icici bank conforms
by Kenneth Gonsalves 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

hi, after a long battle LK has succeeded ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [ilug-mangalore] Meeting Agenda [Was: Re: Yo Venkat! kewl! ] Date: Friday 25 Feb 2005 11:05 am From: Laxminarayan Kamath <kamathln(a)gmail.com> To: ilug-mangalore(a)yahoogroups.com Hey another Good news! ICICI heeds to open source! It's site now works on Firefox! -- Laxminarayan Kamath Ammembal (+91) 9845 061385 kamathln(a)gmail.com www.geocities.com/kamathln Find more about us at http://www.linux-mangalore.org Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-mangalore/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ilug-mangalore-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------------------------------------- -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.sourceforge.net ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க!

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Knoppix DVD
by komal 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

I need Knoppix DVD 3.5. Please tell me whom to contact. Thank you Komal

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ldap failure
by sel 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

Hi all, I got OpenLDAP configured on my qmail server but lately its giving me problem with "untimely death" and by chking the status gives me error slapd dead,but pid file exists,therefore i've to manually restart the ldap services i can't find the logs either, i chkd the slapd.conf file (it seems ok) 1>is there anyway i can prevent the failure of slapd 2>or shud i make a script for the ldap services and restarts it automatically on failure 3>and how do i generate the logs for the same ...pls help me Thanks in advance, Sel --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more.

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Fingerprint reader and attendance system
by Bilal Ahmed Mazhar 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

Hi All Is there anyone who recommend me any biometric device for designing fingerprint based attendance recording system? I want to go for hardware only and software will be designed inhouse because all parties are selling windows based software which can be operated from one machine. I want to design it in PHP/MYSQL (i.e browser based) can be operated from anywhere. I need only device and import/export data software. I had some demo but dealers are quite confused to give it to Linux system. They recommend me to export data through windows system which I don't need. Data import/export should be automated by shell script. Any recommendation for device and dealers will be highly appreciated. Regards, Bilal Ahmed Mazhar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] reliace at 230.4 kbps
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

On Monday 28 February 2005 10:27, Soumen Dass wrote: > sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > On Sunday 27 February 2005 20:30, harshal(a)iucaa.ernet.in wrote: > > > > LST250 FWT works at 230Kbps. Just set Baud = 230400 in > > /etc/wvdial.conf.Ofcourse the over-the-air speed stays at 4.5kbps > > or so. > > Do you mean that the actual/effective speed for reliance is around > 4.5 kbps? In other words as good as my ol' MTNL dialup > connection?!! 144kbps (or is it 170kbps)) is the total channel throughput. Shared by umpteen users. Result 4.5kbps actual throughput most of the time. Occassionally you may get a burst of speed when the channel is relatively less cluttered. Unless you are guaranteed in writing of a fixed continuos bandwidth, all the promises are rubbish. In fact a 9600bps gsm connection (not gprs) works far better than any of the shared schemes. Of course you are charged Rs.4 per minute. rgds jtd

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ready to Samba ?
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

Hi Network card is up and running. A big thanks to all the ppl who pitched in .. esp. Binulal and jtd. I then planned my next big jump. Installed Samba and reached my next dead end. This time it appears to be a common problem. Use google with the search string as "samba no service destination end-point" or http://news.cbn.net.id/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article <http://news.cbn.net.id/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article&group=comp.os.linux.net…> &group=comp.os.linux.networking&item=121336&utag= I am getting the same response. Couldn't get far with the docs either. Also was curious which user account would Samba use. Do I need to create a specific user account on the machine from where I access the share on the Linux box.... Also smbstatus gives me a cryptic lock error #Samba version 2.2.5 #Service uid gid pid machine #---------------------------------------------- #Can't initialise locking module - exiting Gishu Pillai

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] reliace at 230.4 kbps
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

On Sunday 27 February 2005 20:30, harshal(a)iucaa.ernet.in wrote: > hi, > i was just experimenting with the phone settings when i found > that the default 115 kbps can be changed to 230.4 kbps. LST250 FWT works at 230Kbps. Just set Baud = 230400 in /etc/wvdial.conf.Ofcourse the over-the-air speed stays at 4.5kbps or so. rgds jtd

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strange system behaviour
by Sarfaraz Kazi 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

Hi Linuxers, Running Mandrake Linux 9.1 (kernel 2.4.21) out here. I copied couple of files (excel) from a floppy to my home dir. 2/3 hours later, i noticed that the floppy LED is constantly on and the drive is being continously accessed. So, i did ctrl+alt+f12 to see the kernel(?) messages and i found this:- +++ Feb 27 21:38:02 hansolo last message repeated 116 times Feb 27 21:38:59 hansolo last message repeated 107 times Feb 27 21:38:59 hansolo kernel: martian destination 0.0.0.0 from 10.12.88.160, dev eth0 Feb 27 21:38:59 hansolo kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 0 Feb 27 21:39:30 hansolo last message repeated 58 times Feb 27 21:40:31 hansolo last message repeated 113 times Feb 27 21:41:09 hansolo last message repeated 72 times Feb 27 21:41:10 hansolo kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 0 Feb 27 21:41:19 hansolo last message repeated 17 times Feb 27 21:41:19 hansolo kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 0 Feb 27 21:41:36 hansolo last message repeated 32 times Feb 27 21:41:37 hansolo kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 0 Feb 27 21:42:09 hansolo last message repeated 54 times Feb 27 21:42:18 hansolo last message repeated 18 times Feb 27 21:42:19 hansolo kernel: martian destination 0.0.0.0 from 10.12.88.160, dev eth0 Feb 27 21:42:19 hansolo kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 0 Feb 27 21:42:50 hansolo last message repeated 55 times Feb 27 21:43:51 hansolo last message repeated 115 times Feb 27 21:44:52 hansolo last message repeated 115 times Feb 27 21:45:53 hansolo last message repeated 114 times Feb 27 21:46:54 hansolo last message repeated 115 times Feb 27 21:47:48 hansolo last message repeated 102 times Feb 27 21:47:48 hansolo kernel: martian destination 0.0.0.0 from 10.12.88.160, dev eth0 Feb 27 21:47:48 hansolo kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 0 +++ To stop the floppy drive access, i put back in the same floppy, ran ls and then took it out. After that, my floppy drive's LED is repeatedly blinking on & off, even as i write this mail. On checking the messages again, i got this:- +++ eb 27 22:23:37 hansolo kernel: UDF-fs DEBUG lowlevel.c:65:udf_get_last_session: CDROMMULTISESSION not supported: rc=-22 Feb 27 22:23:37 hansolo kernel: UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:1426:udf_read_super: Multi-session=0 Feb 27 22:23:37 hansolo kernel: UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:415:udf_vrs: Starting at sector 16 (2048 byte sectors) Feb 27 22:23:39 hansolo kernel: UDF-fs: No VRS found Feb 27 22:23:45 hansolo kernel: Unable to identify CD-ROM format. Feb 27 22:23:45 hansolo kernel: MSDOS FS: IO charset utf8 Feb 27 22:24:32 hansolo kernel: VFS: revalidate called on non-open device. Feb 27 22:24:33 hansolo kernel: UDF-fs DEBUG lowlevel.c:65:udf_get_last_session: CDROMMULTISESSION not supported: rc=-22 Feb 27 22:24:33 hansolo kernel: UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:1426:udf_read_super: Multi-session=0 Feb 27 22:24:33 hansolo kernel: UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:415:udf_vrs: Starting at sector 16 (2048 byte sectors) Feb 27 22:24:35 hansolo kernel: UDF-fs: No VRS found Feb 27 22:24:41 hansolo kernel: Unable to identify CD-ROM format. Feb 27 22:24:41 hansolo kernel: MSDOS FS: IO charset utf8 +++ what's going wrong here? is my box being contacted by the martians?!!?:-) Please help. Regards, Sarfaraz. --- Disks are always full. It is futile to try to get more disk space. Data expands to fill any void. -- Murphy's Computer Laws n4 --- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Changing MTU values
by anandraj soni 27 Feb '05

27 Feb '05

I use reliance connection to access internet and their dialer too. I dont know why, but any other way fails to connect me to internet (like wvdial, kppp or pppd on command line). I am able to connect to internet at a very slow speed as against that in windoz. Also, it shows a very low value of MTU (264). I tried to change it in /etc/ppp/options to "mtu 1500", but whenever I connect again, the values get vanished (gayab). How do I change the MTU values? Or get faster internet? And one more thing, I always need to be root to run the reliance dialer (even switching to root is of no use) and changing permissions does no good. How do I make it run by a normal user (or even after su to root). Anandraj Soni.

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games for geeks
by sel 27 Feb '05

27 Feb '05

Hi all, I've so far been enjoying the stability,security and freedom because of OSS Linux,but I think the guys @ the Open Source has been straining more on applications of stability and security and making Linux easy to use but I think they miss out one area is gaming...look at all the major games they all run on Win with advanced graphics and high resolutions which leaves a geek like me sticking to Win for games. So here goes a request to all game developers to make a version on Linux where you can use OpenGL and make ppl like me happy :D ...waiting to exhale. Rgds, Sel (Freedom thy name is Linux) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.

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reliace at 230.4 kbps
by harshal＠iucaa.ernet.in 27 Feb '05

27 Feb '05

hi, i was just experimenting with the phone settings when i found that the default 115 kbps can be changed to 230.4 kbps. but the phone doesn't respond when i try to connect. but i found one web page which claims it can be done, anybody tried connecting at speeds higher than 115. the link is given below, its written on the bottom of the page, but i am not able to do it. here is the link... http://www.hackgnu.org/ril-howto.html -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content, and is believed to be clean.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] games for geeks
by Kartik Mistry 27 Feb '05

27 Feb '05

--- sel <selmails(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >Hi all, > >I've so far been enjoying the stability,security and freedom because of OSS >Linux,but I think the guys @ the Open Source has been straining more on >applications of stability and security and making Linux easy to use but I think >they miss out one area is gaming...look at all the major games they all run on Win >with advanced graphics and high resolutions which leaves a geek like me sticking >to Win for games. > >So here goes a request to all game developers to make a version on Linux where >you can use OpenGL and make ppl like me happy :D >...waiting to exhale. >Rgds, >Sel Hi Sel, May almost all games from 'Activision' works fine in Linux; either they have publish linux version or patch is available on net; I played q3a and rtcw on linux better than window$. And go for 'frozen-bubble'. It's amazing game and OpenSource game of the year from LinuxQuestions.org !! Regards, Kartik B. Mistry GNU/Linux Enthu/Developer, Blog: kartikm.blogspot.com Talk2me: +91-22-28990490, 28990507 _____________________________________________________________ LinuxTimes.Net --> An Online Linux Magazine

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] HSBC site (was Fwd: a battle won: icici bank conforms)
by Nagarjuna G. 27 Feb '05

27 Feb '05

On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 07:25:33AM +0530, Amol Hatwar wrote: > > On Saturday 26 Feb 2005 10:24 pm, Sarfaraz Kazi wrote: > > > > On Saturday 26 Feb 2005 11:01 am, Rakesh wrote: > > > > > we need to convince these > > > > > banking sites that Linux is much more secure > > > > > > > > the only way to convince them is to hack them and > > > > > > ^^^^ > > > u mean to say, "crack", right?? > > [ah] We live in a country with absolutely stupid laws. Even if you intend to > do ethical hacking you'll be put behind bars. Using the term `ethical hacking' assumes that there is something called `unethical hacking'. All hacking is good. Cracking is bad. Nagarjuna

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Writing Linux device drivers
by Satya 26 Feb '05

26 Feb '05

Someone wanted to know about device drivers. There's a decent book by Alessandro Rubini. I forget the title, but a google or amazon search should turn it up. -- Satya. http://www.thesatya.com/ One program's data is another program's metadata.

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gtk related
by Nagarjuna G. 26 Feb '05

26 Feb '05

We are developing a pyTGK based application, in which we need the graphical output of other applications (blender, and gnuplot) to be shown in the parent window of our application. Presently we able to create new windows for them, but we wish them to be integrated with in our application window. How to do this? any clues? is there another application that does simialar thing? Thanks Nagarjuna

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modem driver
by vidya bhosale 26 Feb '05

26 Feb '05

Hello everybody, I am using Redhat EL v.3 I want a modem driver for my linux m/c my processor id is 55274-645-6505462-23882 and it is p4,2.4GHz,512 MB Ram plz tell me how to search for the modem driver on internet. the rpmfind.net site has shown me certain linmodems but i cant understand which can suite my m/c my modem is internal Motorola modem waiting for a favourable reply vidya

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Need Debian Pkg of Mozilla with Indic support
by Kartik Mistry 26 Feb '05

26 Feb '05

Hi, I have some questions. 1. Mozilla 1.6 with Indic support is available. It works fine with Redhat FC1/FC3. But When I used it with my Ubuntu and Live CD (Gnoppix). It renders bad for Gujarati Fonts And I didn't find Deb package for Mozilla 1.6 2. How can I compile Mozilla (suppose, 1.7.x) with Indic support enable. Karunakar, do you have any idea, regarding this ? Please, Help me on this. Thanks in Advance.. Kartik B. Mistry GNU/Linux Enthu/Developer, Blog: kartikm.blogspot.com Talk2me: +91-22-56857396 _____________________________________________________________ LinuxTimes.Net --> An Online Linux Magazine

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sshd dead but subsys locked
by Sneh D 26 Feb '05

26 Feb '05

Hi all, I have a RHEL Server and am having a problem with sshd.I can't seem to correctly start it from my command line and i get an odd error when i view the status of the ssh deamon.. here's what is displayed: $service sshd restart Stopping sshd: [FAILED] Starting sshd: [ OK ] $service sshd status sshd dead but subsys locked $ What is this sshd dead but subsys locked error? I am unable to connect to the server through ssh. Previously the server was in 172.30.x.x. zone and ssh was working fine. After shifting it to 172.29.x.x zone ssh is not working. Kindly help me out with this. Regards, Sneh.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: a battle won: icici bank conforms
by Ashish Saboo 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 Philip Tellis wrote : >Sometime Today, KG cobbled together some glyphs to say: > > > Hey another Good news! ICICI heeds to open source! It's site now > > works on Firefox! > >ICICI direct you mean. ICICI always worked. If you really insist , then train your guns on 'Financial Technologies'. This company offers automated order management, trading and post-trade systems to all the online borkers in India. ie investmart, refcoSify, Indiabulls apart from IDirect . http://www.ftindia.com/clients.htm & worst The online quotes display works only on systems loaded with microsoft virtual machine . Pity Indian Investors don't have a choice. Online Trading is one of the most important Internet enabled transaction segment. Korean stock exchanges attribute 57% of all transactions from online brokers. Ashish Saboo President Association of Public Internet Access Provider (ApiAp) The voice of independent Cyber cafe operators URL: http://www.apiap.cybernook.net Blog: http://apiap.blogspot.com

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Connecting to internet in Suse 9.1
by nishit shah 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

I would like to know how to connect to the internet in suse9.1 pro. I primarily use redhat 9 but i am unable to find a way to connect in suse. Nishit Shah

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 22, Issue 47
by Ninad Purohit 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

> > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:40:45 +0530 > From: Devdas Bhagat <devdas(a)dvb.homelinux.org> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re snort trouble > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" > <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Message-ID: <20050224184045.A1936(a)evita.devdas.geek> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On 24/02/05 00:56 -0800, Ninad Purohit wrote: > <snip> > > i want snort to log alerts with priority local6 > and > > facility alert > > Please prove that snort is not logging to > local6.alert > > > then my syslog would redirect all syslogs with > > priority local6 (based on a rule i write in > > syslog.conf) to a listener ( netforensics agent) > > Please show the relevant line from syslog.conf the line from syslog is local6 @202.X.X.X i even tried logging it to a seperate file with local6 /var/log/snort.log the line from snort.conf is output alert_syslog: LOG_LOCAL6 LOG_ALERT but if i try file logging tail -f shows no logs comming in and i see no udp packets going to the destination host on port 514 in ethereal if i try forwarding it to a different host ===== ninad purohit ninadonline(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)in have a nice day :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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freeBSD 4 amd64
by Sunder Narayanaswamy 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

hi i need freeBSD for amd64 . if any of u have please help . i will pay for the cds and the courier. thanks

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: a battle won: icici bank conforms
by Aseem Rane 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

Hi KG, I need more information on this one. Even I have very bad experience of http://www.icicidirect.com/ you can read about my experience on http://www.geocities.com/aseemrane/firefox.html It was way back when Firefox was at version 0.9. Now the buttons on the site just dont work in firefox. BTW sorry for top posting. It is very difficult to reply otherwise in lotus notes. Regards -- Aseem Rane Project Leader, L&T Infotech Ltd. Powai. Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)thenilgiris.com> Sent by: linuxers-bounces(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in 25/02/2005 11:26 AM Please respond to "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" To: "Mumbai India GNU/Linux Users Group" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> cc: Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: a battle won: icici bank conforms hi, after a long battle LK has succeeded ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [ilug-mangalore] Meeting Agenda [Was: Re: Yo Venkat! kewl! ] Date: Friday 25 Feb 2005 11:05 am From: Laxminarayan Kamath <kamathln(a)gmail.com> To: ilug-mangalore(a)yahoogroups.com Hey another Good news! ICICI heeds to open source! It's site now works on Firefox! -- Laxminarayan Kamath Ammembal (+91) 9845 061385 kamathln(a)gmail.com www.geocities.com/kamathln Find more about us at http://www.linux-mangalore.org Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-mangalore/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ilug-mangalore-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------------------------------------- -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.sourceforge.net ?????????? ?????! -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________

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[ILUG-BOM] [jobs][jobs][commercial] needed c/c++ on *nix hackers for tcs
by Trevor Warren 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

Morning Luggers, "We are looking for hardworking-honest-sharp c/c++ hackers on *nix for TCS to work on low level system api's/network stacks/sniffers/memory profiling applications/etc. He/She can be a non-technical(ba/bcom/bsc/mcom))/technical(be/btech/mtech) graduate with some(1-3yr) experience for research and development on some core products." Exceptions for non-technical canidates will be made for canidates who really are aces at some of the above mentioned areas. Previous expertise on Open Source/Free Software based projects on the topics above can be demonstrated for such waivers. Waivers will be on a case to case basis. I know there are many non-technical graduates who are aces in most of the fields i have worked in....much better that i can ever be. And hence i am pushing for this waiver in TCS for now. Please use this oppurtunity and write in with your case to me at trevorwarren(a)gmail.com as soon as possible. Trevor ===== |------|____________________________________|------| ( >- / Scaling FreeSoftware & OpenSource \ -< ) /~\ / In the Enterprise \ /~\ | \) \ | www.fsf.org | www.opensource.org | / (/ | |_|_ \____________________________________/ _|_| __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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[ot][commercial][jobs] c/c++ hackers on *nix for tcs
by Trevor Warren 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

Morning Luggers, "We are looking for hardworking-honest-sharp c/c++ hackers for TCS to work on low level system api's/network stacks/sniffers/memory profiling applications/etc. He/She can be a nonn-technical(ba/bcom/bsc/mcom))/technical(be/btech/mtech) graduate with some(1-3yr) experience for research and development on some core products." Exceptions for non-technical canidates will be made for canidates who really are aces at the above. Previous experience at Open Source/Free Software based on the topics above can be demonstrated for such waivers. Waivers will be on a case to case basis. I know there shall be many non-technical graduates who are aces in most of the fields i have worked in....much better that i can ever be. And hence i am pushing for this waiver in TCS for now. Please use this oppurtunity and write in with your case to me as soon as possible. Trevor ===== |------|____________________________________|------| ( >- / Scaling FreeSoftware & OpenSource \ -< ) /~\ / In the Enterprise \ /~\ | \) \ | www.fsf.org | www.opensource.org | / (/ | |_|_ \____________________________________/ _|_| __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Freesoftwaremagazine.com Issue 2 is out...
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

Issue 2 of Free Software Magazine is finally out! Download your PDF copy for free from http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com Contents... o EDITORIAL / Your part-time job The trials and tribulations of being a "computer person" o FOCUS / The history and future of SMTP by Kirk Strauser SMTP's adaptation to a hostile Internet o Filtering spam with postfix by Kirk Strauser Effective ways to reduce unwelcome mail o Mail servers: resolving the identity crisis by John Locke How to get Dspam, Postfix, and Procmail to play well together o TECH WORLD / Poking at ITunes by Chris J Karr A developer's guide to the iTunes platform o Why free IT management tools are gaining traction by Will Winkelstein Enterprises are increasingly receptive to free software alternatives for IT management. o CASE STUDY: Mythic Beasts By Tony Mobily A small company specialised in Linux servers and amazing support o Interview with Bernhard Reiter at aKademy by Tom Chance What we can do to promote the future of free software o Hard passwords made easy by John Locke Creating strong memorable passwords using mnemonic devices and word lists o WORD WORLD / The FUD-based Encyclopedia by Aaron Krowne Dismantling fear, uncertainity, and doubt, aimed at Wikipedia and other free knowledge resources. o Guerrilla marketing by Tom Chance Part one: promoting community projects in the marketplace o A law for free software by Maureen O'Sullivan Don't we have enough laws already? o The Libre Culture Manifesto by David M Berry, Giles Moss A manifesto for free/libre culture o Richard Stallman's blog by Richard Stallman Selected entries from Richard's blog (http://agia.fsf.org/rms-blog) from November 2004 to December 2004. 75 PGS * WORLD-CLASS PRINTING, GET-UP * A DOWNLOAD AWAY * unbelievable? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick Noronha (FN) Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://fn.swiki.net http://fn-floss.notlong.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where the needs of the world and your talents cross, there lies your vocation. --Aristotle

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Re snort trouble
by Ninad Purohit 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

<snip> ----------------------------------------------------- If snort is logging to syslog, then you need to configure your syslogd to forward the traffic to the other host. Once Snort dumps the traffic to /dev/log, it is not the responsibility of Snort to send it elsewhere. man 5 syslog.conf man 8 syslogd ----------------------------------------------------- </snip> THe point is /var/log messages gets alogs with all priorities and facilities the default priority and facility for snort is log_auth and log_alert which causes syslog to log it in /var/log/secure i want snort to log alerts with priority local6 and facility alert then my syslog would redirect all syslogs with priority local6 (based on a rule i write in syslog.conf) to a listener ( netforensics agent) so while i get logs in /varlog/messages i am not able o send it to the file or location i want and with the priority and facility i want ===== ninad purohit ninadonline(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)in have a nice day :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Re: FW: [ILUG-BOM] which lan card is linux compatible?
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

On Thursday 24 February 2005 11:24, Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) wrote: > >> <gishu.pillai(a)bently.com> wrote: > >> > Nopes. 8139too is the one that RHL has assigned to the device. > >> > Still won't activate Gishu > >> eth0: Setting 100mbps full-duplex based on auto-negotiated > >> partner ability 41e1. > > > >Your network card is up and running as per the above line > >You have probably not asigned any ip address. > >post the output of ifconfig eth0. > >jtd > > Here is the output for ifconfig. > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:08:A1:5F:B6:A2 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 > RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:1710 (1.6 Kb) > Interrupt:3 Base address:0xbf00 where is your ip address. You need a static ip address. So it means u have misconifigured your network for a dynamic ip. > I ran the Internet Configuration Wizard but to no avail. That is the problem with these wizards - only a wizard can use it. You need to setup static ip and enter the ip manually Here is my /etc/network/interfaces file (this is the file which holds the ips etc in Debian GNU/linux). auto eth0 eth1 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 198.168.0.0 broadcast 198.168.0.255 gateway 198.168.0.1 You will have to find out where your file is (afaik in RH it is /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0) > Do I need > to manually turn on DHCP or something ? No u do not need dhcp. > I noticed that after the > what is to be done if my > modem is not even detected by Linux. The last time I checked, the > thing was supported until RHL 7.1 Why was this model singled out > like this ? The modem works peacefully under Win98 and XP Get one thing absolutely clear here and now. Check first if some hardware is supported under GNU/linux. If it is not dont buy it. The specs to write the drivers are not made available cause the mfg wants to fleece u in cahoots with crooked companies like m$. And if it works under windoze stick to that and suffer the consequences. Also you should switch to debian it is the easiest to configure. rgds jtd

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 22, Issue 45
by Ninad Purohit 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

<snip> ----------------------------------------------------- If snort is logging to syslog, then you need to configure your syslogd to forward the traffic to the other host. Once Snort dumps the traffic to /dev/log, it is not the responsibility of Snort to send it elsewhere. man 5 syslog.conf man 8 syslogd ----------------------------------------------------- </snip> THe point is /var/log messages gets alogs with all priorities and facilities the default priority and facility for snort is log_auth and log_alert which causes syslog to log it in /var/log/secure i want snort to log alerts with priority local6 and facility alert then my syslog would redirect all syslogs with priority local6 (based on a rule i write in syslog.conf) to a listener ( netforensics agent) so while i get logs in /varlog/messages i am not able o send it to the file or location i want and with the priority and facility i want ===== ninad purohit ninadonline(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)in have a nice day :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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[commercial] looking for MySQL Ops persons
by Philip Tellis 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

Hey guys, we're looking for MySQL ops folks. Skills required: 1. Ability to understand the instructions in this mail 2. You gotta rock* at mysql administration (sorry, if you pop, hip hop, rap or disco, you're not good enough) 3. Experience on FreeBSD is a major plus, linux or other Unix sufficient You'll have to move to Bangalore (or stay there if that's where you already are). Send your resume to me as an attachment in plain text or html format. Include significant differences between MyISAM, InnoDB and MaxDB in your email. Do not copy-paste from a website. *rock: you must be really really good. Know the MySQL administrators docs inside out, be able to work with MyISAM as well as InnoDB and recommend when to use which. Be able to backup a db with minimum downtime (If you can do it in zero downtime then we want to talk to you). Philip PS: In case you were wondering, we're a Media company who have recently opened an office in Hollywood ;) -- Mathematicians practice absolute freedom. -- Henry Adams

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Re: need help on syslogging from snort
by Ninad Purohit 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

--- Ninad Purohit <ninadonline(a)yahoo.co.in> wrote: > I have a snort (snort2.3) and i need it to forward > the > alerts to a syslog server with priority local6 > > ading alert_syslog: log_local6 log_alert to > snort.conf > > doesn't work > i even tried the -s option > > while i get local syslogs in /var/log messages > i can not get snort to log to some other file or to > a > different syslog server > > there are no firewall issues and udp port 514 is > reachable > > can anybody help me on this one > > ===== > ninad purohit > ninadonline(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)in > have a nice day :-) > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage > less. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > ===== ninad purohit ninadonline(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)in have a nice day :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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Vulnerability in RHEL 4 kernel: FYI
by Rakesh 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

I recently came across a vulnerability in the recently released RHEL v4 (http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/12599/discussion/). Would like to advice guys who have bought or planning to buy the RHEL v4 to see into the Redhat advisory RHSA-2005:092-14 to address the issue. Red Hat Enterprise Linux kernel is reported prone to multiple vulnerabilities. These issues may allow local attackers to carry out denial of service attacks and gain elevated privileges. The following specific issues were identified: The Red Hat Enterprise Linux kernel is reported prone to two local denial of service vulnerabilities. Another issue affecting the Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 kernel 4GB/4GB split patch can allow local attackers to read and write to arbitrary kernel memory. These issues are reported to affect the Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 kernel. -- Regards, Rakesh B. Pal Emergic CleanMail Team. Netcore Solutions Pvt. Ltd. ======================================================================== I came, I saw, I conquered ========================================================================

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Invitation
by Shailesh Mahadik 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

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RE: FW: [ILUG-BOM] which lan card is linux compatible?
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

>> >> <gishu.pillai(a)bently.com> wrote: >> > Nopes. 8139too is the one that RHL has assigned to the device. >> > Still won't activate Gishu >> ----- >> dmesg: >> ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team >> 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.25 >> PCI: Found IRQ 3 for device 00:12.0 >> divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0 >> eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at 0xc68abf00, >> 00:08:a1:5f:b6:a2, IRQ 3 eth0: Identified 8139 chip type >> 'RTL-8139C' >Try the 8139cp driver. >modprobe -r 8139too; modprobe 8139cp >> eth0: Setting 100mbps full-duplex based on auto-negotiated partner >> ability 41e1. >Your network card is up and running as per the above line >You have probably not asigned any ip address. >post the output of ifconfig eth0. >jtd Here is the output for ifconfig. eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:08:A1:5F:B6:A2 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:1710 (1.6 Kb) Interrupt:3 Base address:0xbf00 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:5642 (5.5 Kb) TX bytes:5642 (5.5 Kb) I ran the Internet Configuration Wizard but to no avail. Do I need to manually turn on DHCP or something ? I noticed that after the Wizard ran, the m/c on startup shows a new error on the console stating unable to bind IP or something. + what is to be done if my modem is not even detected by Linux. The last time I checked, the thing was supported until RHL 7.1 Why was this model singled out like this ? The modem works peacefully under Win98 and XP My current Setup is M/c 1 : winXP with a lan card M/c 2 : Win98 with a lan card and a dial up modem. RHL 8 on dual boot I eventually want to remove Win98 from m/c 2 provided that everything that used to work still does. Regards, Gishu -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux Vs Windows
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

On Wednesday 23 February 2005 19:06, Devdas Bhagat wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 09:19, Philip Tellis wrote: > > > That's okay, because I say that linux is more secure than > > > Windows, and I actually have experience with security and > > > insecurity in both. > Did you also notice that Microsoft sponsored those case studies? Moot point. Doubt anyone running windose will ever have the time from patch-format-reinstall to actually do a case study in anything. Why cant they hire coders in lieu of case study guys to actually fix the sh**. Ahh i forget if they do fixit who will buy longhorn or whatever is the next version extruded from that pandora's company.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Invitation
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

Dear ALL & ALmighty List Admin, The Invitation mail was not intended for the list.. It was just meant for my friends groups... But the mailing list id was picked up by HI 5 thing from my address book of Yahoo account... I think it had sent a mail to everybody on the address book.... EXTREMELY SORRY FOR THE WHOLE ISSUE !!! I just got a auto responder mail from RMS too... GOD knows, how many more people I got to apologize... Once Again SORRY Oh yes.......... MY ALMIGHTY LIST ADMIN, Please FORGIVE ME FOR MY SIN. If hope Philip S Tellis is the admin.... Regards, Shailesh --- Linuxers Admin <linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> wrote: > Your hi5 invitation to the list was uncalled for, > completely off topic. > You are now on moderation. > > -- > List Admin > ===== Technology is driving Me CRAZIER .... But Who said I Want To Be SANE !!!! Original Author of Signature :Shailesh.S.Mahadik (ssmahadik(a)yahoo.com) ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

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