hi JTD. actually the entire problem is that people don't realise the values of running a script. and by the way running a script is "nothing to do " with programming. I think clicking on next next finish etc is not a real good way of software setup. and the entire point of dividing a hard disk into c:, d:, etc is an all together different monster of a problem. I think that having things like "home " where I store data and having a operating system install softwares in a place from where no one except root can delete files is a real deciplene. I think that's why gnu/linux is so rock solid that I don't need ctrl alt delete. look here, we are professionals and have not a single second for passing time on crash recovery etc specially when it happens at the very moment some where in the middle of a conference presentation and on that very day when I was supposed to do demonstration in front of the chief minister or similar important person. windows = finger crossing. I am not saying that what roni faced it not true. he managed to replicate the same thing on my laptop so I know for sure that there is some kind of problem. but instead of throwing software away as unprofessional, we must realise that we as humans don't have the entire knowledge of the world. so let's wait and watch if some one sends that file to roni and myself off the list. and talking about gnu/linux desktops, I have live cases of people becoming so happy after switching over to linux from windows. and they are no programmers or even "do it your self " kind of people. yes some things did not work out of the box and I gave them a few commands to follow and things work for them exactly as they want. so I feel that windows surely does lak professional consistency and many more things which I now realise as I use gnu/linux more and more. regards, Krishnakant.