On Wednesday 12 September 2007 21:59, Rony wrote:
Kenneth has echoed my thoughts exactly and put it nicely in words. Having bugs in a software is possible but after more than 5 years if a software behaves as if it was a beta and released just yesterday for the first time, then this is a flaw in the software not some mistake or attitude problem of the installing person.
OO is not ready for use IS an attitude problem. Especially when it is contrary to my (and hughe number of other people's) experience in using both Msorifice and OO
There is nothing hilarious about a person complaining about such grave issues in the software. The cell colour problem I had highlighted was not even connected to any proprietary file formats. It happens in Open formats.
M$ softwares may have more bugs, be less stable than nix based ones but when they are in the stable working mode, at least they do the job they are intended to do.
Utter nonsense unless u include Msoriffice and Xpee crashing 10 times a day and using antivirus as great features and part of HM BG's grand architecture.
And if FOSS fans feel it is below dignity to compare libre software with M$ ones, then why is it that whenever a problem is pointed out in the libre software, they start counting the bugs in M$ ones. Why can't they except that the particular software has serious flaws that need to be corrected.
Read point 1
Free software is no longer the free blood donation camp. Today major libre software and distro development is taking place through huge sponsorship and donations and by corporate participation. The programmers are compensated for their efforts, so while the institution is giving away the software for free, the developer is not doing any charity. Then why not expect quality work instead of a 'Fix it yourself' community kit.
If it's a bug say it's a bug and file a report, rather than make comments that are opposite to our daily experience. I have often asked about some problem or the other about various packages and ALWAYS it's the developer (amongst others) who have responded, usually within a few hrs. and Never later than 24 hrs. So what are u yakking about?
This is in response to Krish's reply to JTD's mail and I quote...
"actually the entire problem is that people don't realise the values of running a script. and by the way running a script is "nothing to do " with programming. I think clicking on next next finish etc is not a real good way of software setup."
Simplifying a procedure means that one can do more work instead of wasting time running scripts. How would we feel if we got a mobile phone where instead of pressing buttons, we had to create and run scripts every time we wanted to dial a number
U are thouroughly confused between setting up and using. If u are setting up the phone, that is precisely what you sorely miss. If i were selling 50 phones to a courier company, imagine what a pain in the ass it would be to click innumerable buttons to setup the phone book which would be 90% common to all.
or access the phone directory or any other function. The same process is happening in the background but the programmers have provided a beautiful interface to simply press a button.
For the unbelievably simple task of clicking a button there is a script (software) running. When u customise (like the courier company case) u script. when you annotate a schematic, the annotation is different for every schematic, but the process is exactly the same, so you script. When u perform repetititive tasks in a spread sheet you macro (which is a script). And once u create a script u can reuse it forever. Without sitting in front of a machine clicking "Beautiful Buttons".
If scripting is so important, why don't we start doing all our home and office work in assembly language or machine code?
You are.
This will give us better control of the hardware. It is up to the programmer to make software intuitive and easy to handle. It has no relation with scripting skills of the vendor or user. Let each one do his job properly.
You could not be more wrong. While there is nothing wrong in controlling pcs with thought or hand waves or clicks, doing so repetitively is a pain. If you feel differently good for you. Just dont pretend that your subjective preferences are god's ordained rules and hence some piece of code is not ready for this or that. As you can see my subjective preferences are most definetly holier than yours.