Hi,
On 10/15/07, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Again a miss-conception about Windows. It is vulnerable but with proper protection and company usage policies, it takes a few years between reloads.
You have enough mis-conceptions about foss as well, I dare to say.
Industry uses closed .doc format even, so? How does that makeit right?
It is not about right or wrong but catering to industry's needs instead of simply pushing semi-functional libre software on them.
Yeah right! Nice try.
Industry does not use libre file formats.
Really? Which industry? And which file formats are you talking about?Doc, xls, ppt, cdr, aie, dwg, max, (photoshop and its allies, can't recollect the exact extns.) Lets not start the OOo thing again. If it was so good, it would circulate like pirated software.
So by that analogy "pirated" software is equal to "good software"?
Hah hah ... that statement and after all the hard work that some people with lots of time did to make sure MS formats are not made standard. I am starting to wonder why do you use any FOSS at all? Since when "piracy" is a good thing btw? And why would anybody "pirate" software that is Free and Libre in first place?
I am convinced that you have got the foss thing completely wrong. I sincerely suggest you to leave foss for good. Please use everything that is non-foss and be happy. Why rant so much about semi usable software? Use the ones that are usable. Seriously, why bother at all?
Will you consider real life examples of Govt and Pvt bodiesusing Libre software? Do you want Indian or non-indian examples? In which pvt bodies and govt institutions have moved to Linux and FOSS completely - say for Groupware, Office stuff etc?
Agreed. That's what I have said in earlier mails too, that libre software is well suited for big organisations. Small orgs need proper finished products.
To repeat my argument that I said in OOo thread - does a small ashram in Panvel with hardly any resources count ( without much technical expertise or external paid help/services even ) ? Does a social organisation which installed KDE kiosks in many schools near Bangalore count? If I try harder, I can probably find more examples.
CSS is paid software so the software company always has the sword hanging over its head and users can criticise it, curse it, holler at
What makes you think that the FOSS software that I write [KDE PIM in this case ] doesnot get fixed when there are bugs?
Bugs part comes later. First, it should work.
I take that as an offence. Because I know for fact about large scale deployments of KDEPIM ( in various countries even ). I know for a fact that the enterprise branch version of KDEPIM I have contributed to ( check svn commits if you are interested ) has been included in OpenSuse 10.3 and will be there in Gutsy Gibbon. And soon Fedora will have it. And I am not making stories here. I have hard facts to prove it. But proving it to you actually demeans my contributions to KDE and KDEPIM.
software product that I am involved in is not being used by thousands of people and not just random people but by people who consider their data very important and call the shots in their domains - be it govt or private institutions?
Govt. and moneyed institutions can make FOSS dance to their tune.
What makes you think that they are only with big money and not people with little or no money?
See above about the ashram. Btw yesterday the guy who is single handledly responsible for this visited my place and told me a lot about it. He plans to finish of the rest of the migration soon even. So there you go.
Btw, he requirements are not simple even - he requires server setup, typsetting, special fonts, page layouting and many such things. Guess what ? Many a times things don't work as he wants - guess what he does - nopes he doesnot rant. He contacts the devels and asks them how to fix the problem, when will it be resolved and such things. And he has a day job even btw, and not a lukha who doesnot nothing useful with life and nothing better to do.
No social interaction? Define Social interaction please.FOSS users have to be content to make sacrifices as they cannot do everything that can be done on CSS platforms. It is a conscious decision one has to take before migrating to FOSS. Just yesterday, I wanted to copy some video CDs but K3B in Kubuntu 6.10 and 6.06 threw up errors that it cannot read disks with multiple tracks. Finally I had to use my Windows XP to do it using Nero. There are many such instances where one is compelled to use the Windows platform to get their work done.
Huh, what are you talking about? Is that a new definition for social interaction?
I am really wondering if you really understood the FOSS and how it works?
Cheers!
Pradeepto