Ganesh Gajare wrote:
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Ganesh Gajare wrote:
Hello all,
I don't understand in which direction you all ppl are talking.
Linux gives all you want.
Linux gives all you want but what about what the customer wants?
For vendors, as krishnakant says.. he required business, MS gives that to him and that's why they go for it.
There are h/w vendor tell us that sorry, our high end servers will not support debian and GN/Linux, they are supported for RH, Suse. But we had tested that server run smoothly even with virtulization on Debian.
I don't blame the vendor as he has his own limitations and will not risk himself into unknown territory. A vendor provides support for what he knows not what he does not know. Though this is not the reason to not learn more but at that point of time with the limitations of his knowledge, support will be limited to that. Another problem providing support is that after the customer has installed Linux on his computer and starts using it, he later brings up peripheral devices that may be sometimes be quite difficult to install or run optimally in Linux. It is not worth spending so much time and effort to install individual devices on different machines. It holds up all other work.
How can you said this providing support is the problem. Because any ways if customer brings new peripheral, it requires few things like communication with the person who are providing support to him and little self initiative to do the job. As you said it's not worth to spend time to install individual app, in my terms unless you spend time u will not learn how to get the things done, probably today you take 1hr for one customer, tomorrow for another with ur trial and error, you will do the same work in 5min.
The customer can spring up surprises without warning. If it takes one hour or more I don't mind and thats what I do but even after spending a full evening or many hours if it does not work its not worth coming again and again to to it.
Necessary is how you want to do it.
Necessary is whether it is worth doing it.
Vendors, don't know what linux has, and there are only 2-3 h/w guy
supports
linux .
We are supposed to give support for the rest of the thing. Guide people
for
buying dead machines and make them alive putting GNU/Linux, rather than talking with Vendors, bcos Manufacturers design is itself linux supported. Problem arise at very high level application which made for only high end server, one can get more details at that stage.
Hmm. You are only referring to the server segment. OK
Not, like that, it may happened that some one buys very good config lappy and he want's to load Graphics Driver which may be linux don't have as default. But one can easily get Repo for the same or package for the same. There are many thing with server segment, but it's not for the local user.
It should be made clear to the client that Linux is not the free replacement of Doze. They are separate environments and what works in Doze may not work or work the same in Linux and vice versa. Just like Doze and Mac. The client should be willing to let go some luxuries as well as learn new methods in order to gain the benefits of Linux.