Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
precisely my point. The vast majority of programmers in this country are crappy programmers - maybe due to the education system or maybe due to the climate. So how do you get good code out of them?
The vast majority of $PROFESSION in *any* country are crappy $PROFESSION, (replace $PROFESSION with anything like cricketers, actors, lawyers, associates, sys-admins etc..) So how do you get good $ROLE (replace as related to $PROFESSION) out of them?
I am shocked at this discovery and co-incidence!!!
perl/php has its own place and so does ruby/python etc.. *your* thinking its crappy doesn't make it so.. if it was really crappy, there would be mass exodus from php to $CURRENT_BUZZWORD_PROGRAMMING_TOOL. php was designed for a simple reason and it does that bloody well (though now there are others that do it equally well or better). php doesn't claim to be the next $ENTERPRISE_PROGRAMMING_LANGUAGE. Also your argument of templates is equally applicable to php.
If *you* still think that you want to keep people away from php and stuff your 'point of view' down their throats.. then put in the effort to give proper reasons at the very first attempt rather than making random statements like "php+rndm=whatever".
- dhawal