----- Original Message ----- From: "kishor bhagwat" aaaaarrrgghhh@yahoo.com To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Ignorance is bliss
well...as the subject suggested..i was ignoring this thread, but i kinda got bored of NOT writing ....;-)
The ASP model in general was a failure how many more dot-com companies do we need to prove that.
err...what has the dotcom got to do with the ASP model?
Hmm... my fault lack of precision. I meant to say something in the line of dot-com bursts
also..we're hearing all this talk of Linux vs MS for donkey's (y)ears..are we adding anything new here? I've been working with corporates large and small for some
true!
years now, and I've observed that:
- those who dont have the money, install pirated software
-so there goes ur "free os" argument.
:)
- those who have the money and have critical apps go for
Solaris or AIX or HP-UX - and since these OS companies are anyways giving the hardware, the OS goes virtually free with it - so there goes ur money argument again. As for the "you-can-play-with-the-source-code" argument -
Note: This will change... as a squeezing profit margins will demand IT to be more productive.
who the heck wants to play around with the source code when ur running SAP on that box and its being used 24x7 ??
I've seen Linux mainly in development, email and web servers - show me some front-office/back-office banking apps on linux please.
This will change in the time to come too.
You might give n number of reasons for Linux, but please remember that the sys admin and IT Managers have a career and their children to think of
Glad you thought of them. You are confusing services that can be charged against ready-made solutions that are virtually free.
- Solaris backed by Sun's
service contract and replacement SLA's are essential for them to save their backsides.
:)
Who wants to be an adventurist
I wouldn't call it adventurism... I would call it exploring better platforms for retaining competetiveness.
in such a situation? very few...
GNU/Linux isn't backed by companies like Sun who push things down your throat just because they invested time and money for making something. It will only go to places where YOU take it to. Its an ecosystem like model, and evolution is the key.
Its just that some people like me and others on the list want to make GNU/Linux evolve and take it to places. There are others who don't want to do it, probably because, they aren't supportive of the idea. I'll be happy to have a world like this.
What makes me uncomfortable is the third pedigree, *a majority* who sit on the walls that separate the camps and jump on a side whenever they feel it gets stronger.
Maybe we must just chose on which side we want to be.
Amol Hatwar.