On Tue, January 13, 2009 3:23 pm, jtd said:
On Monday 12 January 2009 23:46, Atanu Datta wrote:
On Mon, January 12, 2009 11:20 pm, Rony said:
Philip Tellis wrote:
why license at all?
IIRC, all mails to this list are in the Public Domain. I believe that was always the intent - at least as far back as I can remember. Perhaps we should make this explicit in the guidelines so that people who don't like that can refrain from mailing the list.
Just want to mention my experience with messages on this list. I had written a mail about an issue of LFY and it included a balanced view. In the next month's issue I find my message on this list being printed in the letters section and they neatly assembled only those lines that were positive about LFY. All this without my knowledge of the same.
Regret that permission was not taken from you in addition to you not being notified about it. If you could direct me to the mail (from the mailing list archives) and the issue of LFY where it was published, it'd help me review that matter.
Dont tell me your editors dont know anything about attributions and copyright. If they quote partly, especially without permission they should point out the source.
Quoting someone automatically becomes an attribution, otherwise it's not a quote at all. So, when you quote someone in a story/article for something those words which form an option is attributed to the person who said it. Quoting someone also needs a journalist to ask for permission. However, if it's already published somewhere, you can simply point to the source, which is what happened in this case.
Here, the quote is w.r.t to a comment on the mailing list. And I'm sure it was pointed out from where the comment was picked up. Of course, I can't recall everything from the top of my head as to when was it was we quoted Rony, what all he had said and which parts we quoted in the feedback section, etc. We typically deal with 60,000 words in a typical magazine issue per month. So, it's hard to recall what was the source for 20 words out of it. Of course, if we've quoted Rony I can bet that we did attribute that was a comment in the iLUG-BOM mailing list by such and such person. That's we, as journalists, need to do. If you think we've done something that doesn't fall under proper journalistic practices, you can go ask anyone from NYT, Guardian, or any other media company that you think abides to a proper journalistic procedure.
So, before you jump the guns, do read the question I've asked Rony again.
Thanks, Atanu