On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 04:23:43PM +0530, Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote:
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 05:21:52PM +0530, Dinesh Shah wrote:
What I suggest is as following.
- Free S/W philosophy (Why Free S/W?)
- Installation of Debian (Has any one tried GUI Debian Installer?)
- Various Distros and Package Management (APT, RPM, tgz, Sources).
- Hardware Competibility issues and resources.
- Networking - Ethernet and PPP (Dial-up)
- Over view of basic apps - OpenOffice, WWW, Mail, Graphics, IM, Chat
- Basic SysAdmin - User Management, File Perms, Mount/umount, basic CLI
- Basic Troubleshooting and various resources to get help.
There you go! That just about sums up what we want to cover. But I do suggest that we show either RedHat or Mandrake rather than Debian ...
I beg to differ. We MUST do Debian install, as
We, as a UG, should be vendor neutral. Why promot someone else's brand? Why put users/vendors in present or future legal issues/troubles? Debian installation is NOT difficult. Debian GUI istallation is available NOW. (pgi - "piggy" or Knoppix.)
remember, this is not for geeky techies but for a bunch of PC Vendors who need to be able to support the installations they do later. No matter what we know about various distros, when it comes to normal people who don't really care about computer systems, what's popular is what goes.
We have to give up this mentality of treating the "other" people as "dumb". One does not have to be a geek or a techie to use Debian. In fact, "apt" is probably the best available tool for system/package management for an "average" user.
As for the actual install process, following are the important steps, which are common to all distros.
Making system bootable from CD. Understanding partitioning. Packages/Software/task selection. Dual boot and Boot Manager (LILO/GRUB). X Windows Configuration. Other hardware detection.
All the distros have to handle this and Debian definitely handles all of the above efficiently and intuitively.
This will also have positive side effect. We wan't have to bother about support emails which says "I have Linux version 7.2/8.0/9.0/9.1 etc." ;-)
So far, Amish, Trevor, Dinesh, Nikhil have wrote in about the workshop, but we definitely need help to get this done.
- Speakers - For the pamphlet, since the time was short, I just put
in Nag and my name as speakers. But we really need good people who understand the issues in a small office or home who can talk to the participants. Things like dial-up networking, cable-modems, gateway and proxy setups, laptop installations ...
hmmm...
<rant/flame bait>
I am wondering whether it was *really* the time which forced you to not mention other people in the pamphlet, or
You really don't want/need assistance/contributions from other ppl.
You don't *feel* other ppl are "important/big/marketable" enough? AFAIK, most of the ppl have given their names well in advance (As early as GLUG meet at PUKAR).
Please don't take this as personal. And you need not to reply/explain. I have just taken this oppertunity to point out certain facts.
Lately I have seen that ppl don't acknowledge others for their contributions, however "small", to various events and take contributions for granted. This could be the possible reason why we have so poor participation from ppl, eventhough we have very large UG.
Remember, Free software movement only works and revolves around acknowledging others for their, however "small" is their, contributions. (Otherwise, why RMS have to cry himself hoarse for GNU/Linux and not Linux?) </rant/flame bait>
Flames >/dev/null Different Opinions/Views welcome. :-)
With regards,