hello all and roni in particular. roni, if you remember we tried hard to get the vifi working on my compaq laptop at your house. today after I updated ubuntu feisty I find it perfectly working out of the box! now my only question is that if I happen to format the laptop any time, wil just the updates help me or will I also need to install that broad com driver the way we both did? I want to know from any one who has tried broadcom if linux comes with free modules in the latest kernel? what I am really confused is the fact that just an update fixt my vifi problem. so is this a pure linux driver that has done the trick or is it a combination of the firmware and the kernel? can some one answer this? by the way in the updates list I found that the kernel modules were included and this time around the system demanded a reboot after the updates were applied. this implies that it was not a software update but a serious change to the kernel. regards, Krishnakant.