Hello,
I am new to this group. I am new in the city of Mumbai. So I would like to know the details of good institutes for learning Linux in Mumbai.
Thank you in advance.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Hardik Doshi hadoshi@gmail.com wrote:
I am new to this group. I am new in the city of Mumbai. So I would like to know the details of good institutes for learning Linux in Mumbai.
Welcome!
Lecturer CE/IT Dept.
^^^^ Isn't CE/IT syllabus contains some introduction to Linux? Well, for a start you should try with installing Linux in your institute. Grab it from Internet, give it to any student and they will be able to do it for you quickly!
On Wednesday 24 March 2010 00:36:06 Hardik Doshi wrote:
Hello,
I am new to this group. I am new in the city of Mumbai. So I would like to know the details of good institutes for learning Linux in Mumbai.
Your PC and Debian is the best learning institute. Install this and post to this list any problems you may face AFTER googling.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:23 PM, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
On Wednesday 24 March 2010 00:36:06 Hardik Doshi wrote:
Hello,
I am new to this group. I am new in the city of Mumbai. So I would like to know the details of good institutes for learning Linux in Mumbai.
Your PC and Debian is the best learning institute. Install this and post to this list any problems you may face AFTER googling.
I think Kartik and jtd need to read what the person is asking for and then reply.He has no where mentioned that he wants to install linux just wants to learn it.
http://www.karrox.com/training_programs/networking_training/linux.html
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Sushanth Poojary sushanth.poojary@gmail.com wrote:
I think Kartik and jtd need to read what the person is asking for and then reply.He has no where mentioned that he wants to install linux just wants to learn it.
How one can learn Linux without installing it first? (I may be wrong ;))
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Kartik Mistry kartik.mistry@gmail.com wrote:
How one can learn Linux without installing it first? (I may be wrong ;))
The way majority of college students learn it; by memorizing the commands ;)
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Kartik Mistry kartik.mistry@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Sushanth Poojary sushanth.poojary@gmail.com wrote:
I think Kartik and jtd need to read what the person is asking for and then reply.He has no where mentioned that he wants to install linux just wants to learn it.
How one can learn Linux without installing it first? (I may be wrong ;))
You are right, but many people I have introduced linux to get intimidated by the command line, they are so use to clicking things in Windows. But thanks to the newer debian installations its so much better now.
What I have seen is that they feel more comfortable installing once they have played around with it.
Anyways Hardik if you dont want to spend money on training I suggest you listen to jtd and Kartik, get yourself a linux box. Just follow the tutorials below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhnLk3gviWY
http://www.techievideos.com/videos/297/Learn-Ubuntu-Lesson-1-Intro-to-Ubuntu...
Regards, Sushanth Poojary Virtual Labs, IIT Bombay
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Sushanth Poojary sushanth.poojary@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Kartik Mistry kartik.mistry@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Sushanth Poojary sushanth.poojary@gmail.com wrote:
I think Kartik and jtd need to read what the person is asking for and then reply.He has no where mentioned that he wants to install linux just wants to learn it.
How one can learn Linux without installing it first? (I may be wrong ;))
You are right, but many people I have introduced linux to get intimidated by the command line, they are so use to clicking things in Windows. But thanks to the newer debian installations its so much better now.
What I have seen is that they feel more comfortable installing once they have played around with it.
Anyways Hardik if you dont want to spend money on training I suggest you listen to jtd and Kartik, get yourself a linux box. Just follow the tutorials below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhnLk3gviWY
http://www.techievideos.com/videos/297/Learn-Ubuntu-Lesson-1-Intro-to-Ubuntu...
A newbie's worry may be wrecking one's box by trying to install an unfamiliar OS. Virtualbox is a handy way to wet one's feet.
Just my Re. 0.02...
Regards, Mohan S N
On Wednesday 24 March 2010 13:43:17 Sushanth Poojary wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:23 PM, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
On Wednesday 24 March 2010 00:36:06 Hardik Doshi wrote:
Hello,
I am new to this group. I am new in the city of Mumbai. So I would like to know the details of good institutes for learning Linux in Mumbai.
Your PC and Debian is the best learning institute. Install this and post to this list any problems you may face AFTER googling.
I think Kartik and jtd need to read what the person is asking for and then reply.
He has no where mentioned that he wants to install linux just wants to learn it.
Aha I get it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BCI.jpg
Maybe you can try KEM hospital or a path breaking collab between the neighbouring Bai Sakarbai Dinshaw Petit Hospital for Animals.
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Mukund Deshmukh mukund.deshmukh@gmail.com wrote:
I think Kartik and jtd need to read what the person is asking for and then reply.He has no where mentioned that he wants to install linux just wants to learn it.
Like learning driving in class room ;-))
More like learning flying in a classroom(A.k.A. Simulators, where pilots do a bulk of their training before they are even allowed near an aircraft). If driving schools had simulators of cars, i dont see why training there wouldn't be valid. Of Course, the real test is in a real car, but i'd be much more confident my first time, if i had a few hundred hours of simulator time.
The same goes for training. If the training institute provides you with the hardware, with the express aim of using it to teach you, then how is that different from you using your own, at least for the initial stages? i'm sure, if you hunt around, you'd find some institutes like that even, though i expect you have to look hard.
I think your real beef is with the kind of institutes that treat their computers with a holy reverence, to be used to only display the PPT's(Sic. Presentations) of the faculty while the dumb students gaze on with rapt attention, keeping their hands behind their backs(Dont Touch!!!), until the trainer tells them to copy-paste code and compile/execute. Such training, you'd do better without.
Rajeev
-Mukund
On Thursday 25 March 2010 10:30:25 Rajeev R. K. wrote:
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Mukund Deshmukh
mukund.deshmukh@gmail.com wrote:
I think Kartik and jtd need to read what the person is asking for and then reply.He has no where mentioned that he wants to install linux just wants to learn it.
Like learning driving in class room ;-))
More like learning flying in a classroom(A.k.A. Simulators, where pilots do a bulk of their training before they are even allowed near an aircraft). If driving schools had simulators of cars, i dont see why training there wouldn't be valid.
The prime reason for simulators is that you cant pause to read the manual. And the need for being hands on is also precisely the same reason - no hesitancy in realtime reaction.
Of Course, the real test is in a real car, but i'd be much more confident my first time, if i had a few hundred hours of simulator time.
The same goes for training. If the training institute provides you with the hardware, with the express aim of using it to teach you, then how is that different from you using your own, at least for the initial stages? i'm sure, if you hunt around, you'd find some institutes like that even, though i expect you have to look hard.
Unfortunately afaik there are none. In India teaching is entrenched to the conventional no-brian-use. They are tailored to elicit questions whose answers are known and easy to assimilate, rather than force you to think and raise your own - a requirement of the real world. IMO the op would be far better off saving his money and time learning himself, especially since the resources on the web are orders of magnitude better than any of the institutes.
jtd wrote:
Unfortunately afaik there are none. In India teaching is entrenched to the conventional no-brian-use. They are tailored to elicit questions whose answers are known and easy to assimilate, rather than force you to think and raise your own - a requirement of the real world. IMO the op would be far better off saving his money and time learning himself, especially since the resources on the web are orders of magnitude better than any of the institutes.
My experience with Ultramax was quite okay. I learned many new things within a short span and everything was done in command line. The only practical problem was that the course was jinxed from the very first day. On the opening day, rain water flooded our basement class and like refugees, we had to use other classes in the institute where we spent initial time reloading linux everytime another course class removed it. The 3 month course stretched to 9 months and the last module on servers was done in fast forward. But I guess it was just bad luck.
Rajeev R. K. wrote:
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Mukund Deshmukh mukund.deshmukh@gmail.com wrote:
I think Kartik and jtd need to read what the person is asking for and then reply.He has no where mentioned that he wants to install linux just wants to learn it.
Like learning driving in class room ;-))
More like learning flying in a classroom(A.k.A. Simulators, where pilots do a bulk of their training before they are even allowed near an aircraft). If driving schools had simulators of cars, i dont see why training there wouldn't be valid. Of Course, the real test is in a real car, but i'd be much more confident my first time, if i had a few hundred hours of simulator time.
Wow I had the same thoughts.
On Thursday 25 Mar 2010 9:42:47 am Mukund Deshmukh wrote:
I think Kartik and jtd need to read what the person is asking for and then reply.He has no where mentioned that he wants to install linux just wants to learn it.
Like learning driving in class room ;-))
when I wanted to learn driving, my father gave me a roll of binding wire, insulation tape, and a toolkit and told me to first learn how to take the car apart and put it together before I could learn to drive. After that how to check battery, water, petrol, tyres before inserting the crank handle and doing a cold start. That was necessary in those days - nowadays very few learners even know where the engine is or how to open the hood.
my wife and kids and a lot of my friends happily learn and use linux - none of them know how to install it - or care about installation. Some one does it for them. It is like starting a car nowadays - they have a thing called a self- starter which starts it automagically. I am told even some two wheelers have this feature. There are also rumours that some machines come with linux pre- installed - my daughter has been using her webbook without installing a thing.
you guys all seem to be living in the previous century.
I have a 70 year old guy who was given his daughter's old laptop as a present. I put puppy on it and he is happily using it. He does not want to learn linux - he wants to write his memoirs, surf and do email. He is doing it - took about a week to get up to speed. (his father made him learn to repair his cycle before allowing him to ride it to school)
Mukund Deshmukh wrote:
I think Kartik and jtd need to read what the person is asking for and then reply.He has no where mentioned that he wants to install linux just wants to learn it.
Like learning driving in class room ;-))
Linux is not a car. It is an aircraft. The learner has to go through flight simulation first. :-)
Sushanth Poojary wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:23 PM, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
On Wednesday 24 March 2010 00:36:06 Hardik Doshi wrote:
Hello,
I am new to this group. I am new in the city of Mumbai. So I would like to know the details of good institutes for learning Linux in Mumbai.
Your PC and Debian is the best learning institute. Install this and post to this list any problems you may face AFTER googling.
I think Kartik and jtd need to read what the person is asking for and then reply.He has no where mentioned that he wants to install linux just wants to learn it.
The OP is already an IT lecturer so learning Linux on his own is not a bad idea. However, I also feel that in an institute one learns more than what one would learn on his own with reference to the time period of 3 months that the course would last. After that learning on one's own is easier and a happier experience.
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Hardik Doshi hadoshi@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I am new to this group. I am new in the city of Mumbai. So I would like to know the details of good institutes for learning Linux in Mumbai.
I'm wondering why no one has recommended joining a Linux course. Learning Linux by installing it at home and tinkering with it is nice and dandy, but wouldn't joining a good course *plus* installing at home lead to better skills in the shortest time? OP hasn't specified the reason for learning Linux - hobbyist or Linux professional .For the latter, I would strongly recommend a course plus practical self-study.
Regards, NMK.
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