I know every one might have read this since it's in wikipedia.So it's a gentle reminder to all who hasn't contributed yet.
"Google might have close to a million servers. Yahoo has something like 13,000 staff. We have 679 servers and 95 staff.
Wikipedia is the #5 site on the web and serves 450 million different people every month – with billions of page views.
Commerce is fine. Advertising is not evil. But it doesn't belong here. Not in Wikipedia.
Wikipedia is something special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the mind. It is a place we can all go to think, to learn, to share our knowledge with others.
When I founded Wikipedia, I could have made it into a for-profit company with advertising banners, but I decided to do something different. We’ve worked hard over the years to keep it lean and tight. We fulfill our mission, and leave waste to others.
If everyone reading this donated ₹100, we would only have to fundraise for one day a year. But not everyone can or will donate. And that's fine. Each year just enough people decide to give.
This year, please consider making a donation of ₹100, ₹200, ₹300 or whatever you can to protect and sustain Wikipedia.
Thanks,
*Jimmy Wales* Wikipedia Founder
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Siji Sunny sijisunny@gmail.com wrote:
I know every one might have read this since it's in wikipedia.So it's a gentle reminder to all who hasn't contributed yet.
"Google might have close to a million servers. Yahoo has something like 13,000 staff. We have 679 servers and 95 staff.
Wikipedia is the #5 site on the web and serves 450 million different people every month – with billions of page views.
Commerce is fine. Advertising is not evil. But it doesn't belong here. Not in Wikipedia.
Wikipedia is something special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the mind. It is a place we can all go to think, to learn, to share our knowledge with others.
When I founded Wikipedia, I could have made it into a for-profit company with advertising banners, but I decided to do something different. We’ve worked hard over the years to keep it lean and tight. We fulfill our mission, and leave waste to others.
If everyone reading this donated ₹100, we would only have to fundraise for one day a year. But not everyone can or will donate. And that's fine. Each year just enough people decide to give.
This year, please consider making a donation of ₹100, ₹200, ₹300 or whatever you can to protect and sustain Wikipedia.
How? Links? Locations where we can make financial contrib?
Thanks,
*Jimmy Wales* Wikipedia Founder
If everyone reading this donated ₹100, we would only have to fundraise
for
one day a year. But not everyone can or will donate. And that's fine.
Each
year just enough people decide to give.
This year, please consider making a donation of ₹100, ₹200, ₹300 or whatever you can to protect and sustain Wikipedia.
How? Links? Locations where we can make financial contrib?
Link: https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1118_combo10/en/US
Blog: http://dineshah.wordpress.com
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Siji Sunny sijisunny@gmail.com wrote:
If everyone reading this donated ₹100, we would only have to fundraise
for
one day a year. But not everyone can or will donate. And that's fine.
Each
year just enough people decide to give.
This year, please consider making a donation of ₹100, ₹200, ₹300 or whatever you can to protect and sustain Wikipedia.
How? Links? Locations where we can make financial contrib?
Link: https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1118_combo10/en/US
Thanks for the link. Did the needful.
With regards,
2011/11/23 Dinesh Shah (દિનેશ શાહ/दिनेश शाह) dineshah@gmail.com
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Siji Sunny sijisunny@gmail.com wrote:
If everyone reading this donated ₹100, we would only have to fundraise
for
one day a year. But not everyone can or will donate. And that's fine.
Each
year just enough people decide to give.
This year, please consider making a donation of ₹100, ₹200, ₹300 or whatever you can to protect and sustain Wikipedia.
How? Links? Locations where we can make financial contrib?
You can Donate:
100RS,200Rs,300Rs,500Rs,1000Rs,2000Rs or 3000Rs
https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:FundraiserLandingPage?country=IN&a...
Or
https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1118_combo10/en/US
Other ways to Contribute : Pls read : http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Ways_to_Give/en&utm_sou...
Thanks for the link. Did the needful.
With regards,
--Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System Pvt. Ltd. +91-98213-11906 +91-9833-TICKET http://www.shahmicro.com http://iopt.in http://crm.iopt.in Blog: http://dineshah.wordpress.com -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
On 23 November 2011 21:32, Siji Sunny sijisunny@gmail.com wrote:
https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:FundraiserLandingPage?country=IN&a...
Siju,
Done. I believe Wikipedia is to the 21st century what Satyagraha has been to the 20th - a social movement that could possibly shape the destiny of the planet. For me, it has been the starting point of any research I have done in the past several years. I do wish the project the best for generations to come.
OT: I have been a contributor to the EN Wikipedia, but have never been able to do justice to the ML version - even though I have been ML-born, brought up and educated. I do think I can contribute a lot more than I do currently, given that I can lay claim to the best education India can offer today (IIT + IIM, no less). It might be just me, but I think the infrastructure available to contributors from languages such as ML is woefully inadequate.
Binand
2011/11/23 Binand Sethumadhavan binand@gmail.com:
OT: I have been a contributor to the EN Wikipedia, but have never been able to do justice to the ML version - even though I have been ML-born, brought up and educated. I do think I can contribute a lot more than I do currently, given that I can lay claim to the best education India can offer today (IIT + IIM, no less). It might be just me, but I think the infrastructure available to contributors from languages such as ML is woefully inadequate.
I am curious to know what is inadequate in ML wikipedia? It is running exactly same software and follow the same process, all you need to know extra is to type in ML. Now they offer browser based typing that just works. If you have any specific difficulties let me know, we can find a solution to it.
I think ML is the number one Indian language wiki if you go by page depth.
Praveen
On 26 November 2011 10:37, Praveen A pravi.a@gmail.com wrote:
I am curious to know what is inadequate in ML wikipedia? It is running
Likely it has changed now. I used to have major text input difficulties etc. This browser-based typing might be good (earlier I used to do it in Gmail's compose area and then copy/paste :-)
I think ML is the number one Indian language wiki if you go by page depth.
That is not just on Wikipedia, I have noticed this on IMDb as well. The %-age of ML movies with usable synopsis, cast/crew details, reviews etc. is much higher than say, TA movies, for example.
Binand
2011/11/26 Binand Sethumadhavan binand@gmail.com:
Likely it has changed now. I used to have major text input difficulties etc. This browser-based typing might be good (earlier I used to do it in Gmail's compose area and then copy/paste :-)
Try it and let me know if you find any difficulties, Santhosh Thottingal, who is in the wikimedia technical team is my good friend and we work closely as part of Swathanthra Malayalam Computing (http://smc.org.in).
On Saturday 26 Nov 2011, Binand Sethumadhavan wrote:
On 26 November 2011 10:37, Praveen A pravi.a@gmail.com wrote:
I am curious to know what is inadequate in ML wikipedia? It is running
Likely it has changed now. I used to have major text input difficulties etc. This browser-based typing might be good (earlier I used to do it in Gmail's compose area and then copy/paste :-)
I used to do that too, then I discovered that Emacs has excellent Indic- language typing tools, with option to choose keyboard mapping, etc. So far, that's the best option I've found for typing long texts in Indic languages.
Agreed Emacs isn't everyone's cup of tea, but if you can get past the initial curve it's dead easy to type Indic with.
Regards,
-- Raj
2011/11/26 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) raju@linux-delhi.org:
I used to do that too, then I discovered that Emacs has excellent Indic- language typing tools, with option to choose keyboard mapping, etc. So far, that's the best option I've found for typing long texts in Indic languages.
Agreed Emacs isn't everyone's cup of tea, but if you can get past the initial curve it's dead easy to type Indic with.
Just install ibus and it has many options including transliteration - type in phonetic english and you get Indian language output. It works in any application including your web browser. That way there is not even an initial curve, but it can be slow compared to learning inscript, so I think the initial effort to learn it is well worth the effort.
On 11/23/2011 09:32 PM, Siji Sunny wrote:
You can Donate:
100RS,200Rs,300Rs,500Rs,1000Rs,2000Rs or 3000Rs
https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:FundraiserLandingPage?country=IN&a...
Or
https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1118_combo10/en/US
Other ways to Contribute : Pls read : http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Ways_to_Give/en&utm_sou...
Has anyone paid through netbanking in Rupees? There appear to be credit/debit card links only. The other modes are postal addresses in the US where we cannot send cheques in INR. Maybe I have missed something.
On 25 November 2011 21:57, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone paid through netbanking in Rupees? There appear to be credit/debit card links only. The other modes are postal addresses in the US where we cannot send cheques in INR. Maybe I have missed something.
"Netbanking" as a payment mode is not very popular (almost nonexistent) in the western world. People prefer credit and debit cards to make transactions over there. It is only the average Indian's supreme suspicion of payment cards that makes netbanking is so popular here.
Think of it - the net effect of debit card and netbanking is the same, is it not?
Binand
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Binand Sethumadhavan binand@gmail.com wrote:
"Netbanking" as a payment mode is not very popular (almost nonexistent) in the western world. People prefer credit and debit cards to make transactions over there. It is only the average Indian's supreme suspicion of payment cards that makes netbanking is so popular here.
Transaction over net via 'Debit card' is not popular here or almost nonexistent. I know there are some Credit Card which only allows offline transactions here. Like many other people, I'm also stuck here and can't donate to Wikipedia (and similar projects).
Think of it - the net effect of debit card and netbanking is the same, is it not?
Almost same but netbanking 'looks' much safe. (Well, I clicked on confirmed twice due to faulty mouse and payment went to /dev/null and that's different story.. :))
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Binand Sethumadhavan binand@gmail.com
wrote:
"Netbanking" as a payment mode is not very popular (almost nonexistent) in the western world. People prefer credit and debit cards to make transactions over there. It is only the average Indian's supreme suspicion of payment cards that makes netbanking is so popular here.
Transaction over net via 'Debit card' is not popular here or almost nonexistent. I know there are some Credit Card which only allows offline transactions here. Like many other people, I'm also stuck here and can't donate to Wikipedia (and similar projects).
Why cant we think about some alternative solutions ?
Suggestion : A mediator /centralised mechanism, who's having credit (with good credit limit :) ) .And let him handle the deal , people who doesn't have access to Debit card/ Credit card payment, can transfer the money to him through net-banking.
Think of it - the net effect of debit card and netbanking is the same, is it not?
Almost same but netbanking 'looks' much safe. (Well, I clicked on confirmed twice due to faulty mouse and payment went to /dev/null and that's different story.. :))
-- Kartik Mistry | IRC: kart_ {0x1f1f, kartikm}.wordpress.com -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
On 26 November 2011 12:47, Siji Sunny sijisunny@gmail.com wrote:
A mediator /centralised mechanism, who's having credit (with good credit limit :) ) .And let him handle the deal , people who doesn't have access to Debit card/ Credit card payment, can transfer the money to him through net-banking.
This is already available (though I'm not sure if they are allowed to remit funds outside of India). Companies like CC Avenue (ccavenue.com), Tech Process (techprocess.co.in) etc. do it for a small fee. I think BillDesk (billdesk.com) is the industry leader in this area.
Binand
2011/11/26 Siji Sunny sijisunny@gmail.com:
Why cant we think about some alternative solutions ?
Suggestion : A mediator /centralised mechanism, who's having credit (with good credit limit :) ) .And let him handle the deal , people who doesn't have access to Debit card/ Credit card payment, can transfer the money to him through net-banking.
Find a friend who has a credit card, I have used my credit card for some of my friends, they give me cash or transfer to my account.
Praveen
On 11/26/2011 02:05 PM, Praveen A wrote:
2011/11/26 Siji Sunny sijisunny@gmail.com:
Why cant we think about some alternative solutions ?
Suggestion : A mediator /centralised mechanism, who's having credit (with good credit limit :) ) .And let him handle the deal , people who doesn't have access to Debit card/ Credit card payment, can transfer the money to him through net-banking.
Find a friend who has a credit card, I have used my credit card for some of my friends, they give me cash or transfer to my account.
If Wiki wants money, they will have to make way.
2011/11/26 Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com:
If Wiki wants money, they will have to make way.
Someone on my disapora post suggested using virtual credit cards
"There's another way - entropay.com virtual credit cards. Connect SBI or IDBI bank to entropay and use the VCC to pay at any site that accepts credit card. I used vcc for wikipedia." Ryuken Ishida
https://joindiaspora.com/posts/948872
On 11/26/2011 10:30 AM, Kartik Mistry wrote:
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Binand Sethumadhavan binand@gmail.com wrote:
"Netbanking" as a payment mode is not very popular (almost nonexistent) in the western world. People prefer credit and debit cards to make transactions over there. It is only the average Indian's supreme suspicion of payment cards that makes netbanking is so popular here.
Transaction over net via 'Debit card' is not popular here or almost nonexistent. I know there are some Credit Card which only allows offline transactions here. Like many other people, I'm also stuck here and can't donate to Wikipedia (and similar projects).
Think of it - the net effect of debit card and netbanking is the same, is it not?
Almost same but netbanking 'looks' much safe. (Well, I clicked on confirmed twice due to faulty mouse and payment went to /dev/null and that's different story.. :))
Nowadays certain 'Big...' shopping malls do not accept debit cards which have PIN codes. They want cards that can be swiped without any PIN authentication. This is a security risk if the card is stolen. It is simply hard cash in the thief's hand. I use netbanking only to pay bills.
On 26 November 2011 23:14, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Nowadays certain 'Big...' shopping malls do not accept debit cards which have PIN codes. They want cards that can be swiped without any PIN authentication. This is a security risk if the card is stolen. It is simply hard cash in the thief's hand. I use netbanking only to pay bills.
Are you talking of the "Chip and Pin" cards? As far as I know, they are not mandatory in India, and the PoS devices required for them are still not available. Anyway researchers have proved that despite all the claims by the banks, they aren't any better. See, for example:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/12/chip_pin_security_unpicked/
All these cards do is to allow the banks to blame the consumers for everything. A sort of risk transfer. :-)
Also remember, if a store displays the Visa logo and does not accept a card with the same logo, you can complain to Visa. This can potentially lead to the store being fined heavily and its merchant status cancelled.
Binand
On 11/27/2011 09:25 AM, Binand Sethumadhavan wrote:
On 26 November 2011 23:14, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Nowadays certain 'Big...' shopping malls do not accept debit cards which have PIN codes. They want cards that can be swiped without any PIN authentication. This is a security risk if the card is stolen. It is simply hard cash in the thief's hand. I use netbanking only to pay bills.
Are you talking of the "Chip and Pin" cards? As far as I know, they are not mandatory in India, and the PoS devices required for them are still not available. Anyway researchers have proved that despite all the claims by the banks, they aren't any better. See, for example:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/12/chip_pin_security_unpicked/
All these cards do is to allow the banks to blame the consumers for everything. A sort of risk transfer. :-)
Also remember, if a store displays the Visa logo and does not accept a card with the same logo, you can complain to Visa. This can potentially lead to the store being fined heavily and its merchant status cancelled.
The regular ATM cum debit cards. They have a PIN and the Big... malls say that their device is not working for PIN type cards and say they want PIN less ones. You have to spend half an hour trying to make a payment in these malls and finally go to the ATM to withdraw cash as their swiping devices don't work for PIN cards.
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone paid through netbanking in Rupees? There appear to be credit/debit card links only. The other modes are postal addresses in the US where we cannot send cheques in INR. Maybe I have missed something.
You can wire the money from your bank account in INR.
International SWIFT code CITIUS33 A/C# 203129580
https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Ways_to_Give/en#Direct_dep...
2011/11/22 Siji Sunny sijisunny@gmail.com:
I know every one might have read this since it's in wikipedia.So it's a gentle reminder to all who hasn't contributed yet.
Thanks for the reminder, I paid 2000 rupees.
Praveen
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Binand Sethumadhavan -
Dinesh Shah (દિનેશ શાહ/दिनेश शाह) -
Kartik Mistry -
Praveen A -
Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) -
Rony -
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Siji Sunny