Rony(?) wrote:
I have used both. Debian is not user friendly as Ubuntu. Debian is raw power. Ubuntu is tamed.
Please report a bug in Debian BTS with proper examples. You can even report a bug against Debian Website!
I am sure that it will be done.
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Do you know only distribution called itself GNU/Linux is: Debian? You should use it now no matter how hard, damn, user-unfriendly, useless it is.
On 25-May-07, at 9:01 AM, Kartik Mistry wrote:
Do you know only distribution called itself GNU/Linux is: Debian? You should use it now no matter how hard, damn, user-unfriendly, useless it is.
what about gnewsense?
On Friday 25 May 2007 11:08:59 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 25-May-07, at 9:01 AM, Kartik Mistry wrote:
Do you know only distribution called itself GNU/Linux is: Debian? You should use it now no matter how hard, damn, user-unfriendly, useless it is.
what about gnewsense?
All these `freedom fighters' should not use Ubuntu. It provides access to non-free software. Ditch. It's not listed on GNU's list of free distributions. Use only one of the free distros listed there, none other. If you don't follow that, shut up and stop preaching about freedom and blah blah.
On Saturday 26 May 2007 00:02, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
On Friday 25 May 2007 11:08:59 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 25-May-07, at 9:01 AM, Kartik Mistry wrote:
Do you know only distribution called itself GNU/Linux is: Debian? You should use it now no matter how hard, damn, user-unfriendly, useless it is.
what about gnewsense?
All these `freedom fighters' should not use Ubuntu. It provides access to non-free software. Ditch. It's not listed on GNU's list of free distributions. Use only one of the free distros listed there, none other. If you don't follow that, shut up and stop preaching about freedom and blah blah.
Hmm. I suspect you havent yet run into the brickwall of closed software / hardware and dead Company as yet. Keep some ice handy and lock away all the guns - u might just want to blow your head.
Like the poor idiot IT manager whose recommended access control system with some closed software, wierd hardware and 10000 employee data crashed and had to be junked. He's in Assam on a punishment posting haveing barely managed to retain his job.
what you daftly consider to be idealism is actually basic managment principle. Think deeply. Dont be swayed by the half brain ads, reports and studies bandied about by X perts and so very visible in the press. Every time someone uses closed software it's a bullet flying in your direction.
On Sat, 2007-05-26 at 12:09 +0530, jtd wrote:
Like the poor idiot IT manager whose recommended access control system with some closed software, wierd hardware and 10000 employee data crashed and had to be junked. He's in Assam on a punishment posting haveing barely managed to retain his job.
Could you please elaborate / email me off list? I am curious.
On Saturday 26 May 2007 12:09:32 jtd wrote:
All these `freedom fighters' should not use Ubuntu. It provides access to non-free software. Ditch. It's not listed on GNU's list of free distributions. Use only one of the free distros listed there, none other. If you don't follow that, shut up and stop preaching about freedom and blah blah.
Hmm. I suspect you havent yet run into the brickwall of closed software / hardware and dead Company as yet. Keep some ice handy and lock away all the guns - u might just want to blow your head.
Like the poor idiot IT manager whose recommended access control system with some closed software, wierd hardware and 10000 employee data crashed and had to be junked. He's in Assam on a punishment posting haveing barely managed to retain his job.
what you daftly consider to be idealism is actually basic managment principle. Think deeply. Dont be swayed by the half brain ads, reports and studies bandied about by X perts and so very visible in the press. Every time someone uses closed software it's a bullet flying in your direction.
Excuse me? This is so irrelevant an answer.. And exactly my point. If these distros are not absolutely free, why do you use them? Use gnewsense or ututo. Why use or support Ubuntu?
On Saturday 26 May 2007 15:39, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
On Saturday 26 May 2007 12:09:32 jtd wrote:
All these `freedom fighters' should not use Ubuntu. It provides access to non-free software.
what you daftly consider to be idealism is actually basic managment principle. Think deeply. Dont be swayed by the half brain ads, reports and studies bandied about by X perts and so very visible in the press. Every time someone uses closed software it's a bullet flying in your direction.
Excuse me? This is so irrelevant an answer.. And exactly my point. If these distros are not absolutely free, why do you use them? Use gnewsense or ututo. Why use or support Ubuntu?
You are twisting things. Ubuntu / RH / xyz provides access to non FOSS as an intermediate step to getting rid of non FOSS to the end user. OTOH u as a skilled IT person should be shouting hoarse about the pitfalls to your clients. The Microvell deal does not do any such thing. M$ says that it's secret sauce patents are being violated by "linux", and u can use only Novell Suse linux by paying for it or terminate usage in 180 days, failing which ...... Should M$ actually sue they will lose their patents, which is why they arent saying what are the patents.
Of course all this is moot in India and Europe for the moment.
Kartik Mistry wrote:
Rony(?) wrote:
I have used both. Debian is not user friendly as Ubuntu. Debian is raw power. Ubuntu is tamed.
Please report a bug in Debian BTS with proper examples. You can even report a bug against Debian Website!
I am sure that it will be done.
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Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux
Do you know only distribution called itself GNU/Linux is: Debian? You should use it now no matter how hard, damn, user-unfriendly, useless it is.
I am using Debian but in different clothing ;) Kubuntu. Waiting for some installation report on Etch 'stable' before venturing into it.
Hi,
On 5/25/07, Rony ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Kartik Mistry wrote:
Rony(?) wrote:
Do you know only distribution called itself GNU/Linux is: Debian? You should use it now no matter how hard, damn, user-unfriendly, useless it is.
I am using Debian but in different clothing ;) Kubuntu. Waiting for some installation report on Etch 'stable' before venturing into it.
I had no problems installing Etch, whatever stable/testing you are talking about dunno about that. Ask Vihan what he downloaded and then distributed. It works fine afaics.
Cheers!
Pradeepto
2007/5/25, Rony ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk:
I am using Debian but in different clothing ;) Kubuntu.
kubuntu != debian
http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/User:Pravs/What_Ubuntu_should_do_to_regain_my_conf...
Cheers Praveen
--- Praveen A wrote:
kubuntu != debian
Does the CD (downloadable / shipit) come with proprietary applications? I guess not. So, the distribution is still Free Software.
Also, there's a restricted repository that distributes non-free applications. I _assume_ there are applications in Ubuntu Linux that still don't have the same features as that of their proprietary alternative (or interoperability). Skype for example.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
-- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode
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