funny... various sections of their site run on proprietry s/w and they want to show us their committment to free s/w.
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 6:30 PM Subject: Good News from LINUX For You
Hi There,
Once again we bring lots of good news for you from the LINUX For You team.
However,
first the not-so-good news -- We have also been flooded with requests for
our
inaugural issue by those who could not get their hands to it, but owing to
a
sell out of the issue, we are not in a position to honour these requests.
Now the GOOD news:
March issue of LINUX For You has hit the newsstands
Subscriber copies have also been dispatched and should reach within a
week
- LFY's website -- www.linuxforu.com has three new sections -- (a)
Events, (b)
LUGs Corner and (c) Free Registration (and listing) for Linux
Organisations
The March 03 issue of LINUX For You is loaded with articles. More than 25
subjects
have been covered in a crisp yet comprehensive manner. KEY FEATURES
INCLUDE:
Connecting Windows and Linux Together
Setting Up An Enterprise Email Solution
Interview with Mr Richard Stallman
How IT Firms Can Thrive in the World of Free Software
Why Deploy Linux For Mailing Solutions in an Enterprise
Nasscom's Market Intelligence Report on Linux in India
The entire table of contents of the issue can be viewed at
www.linuxforu.com's
"latest issue" section.
Coming to our website:
· Linux Organisations: Here you can register your firm in case it works
in the
field of Linux. This section will automatically become an online directory
of
IT firms dealing in Linux.
· LUGs Corner: LUGs across Asia can now register here. We already have
over
100 LUGs registered!
· Events: Worldwide events related to Linux have been listed here. Now
you can
make your travel plans accordingly.
We invite your feedback and suggestions on how the LINUX For You team can
better
their attempt in promoting FLOSS...
Best Wishes!
LINUX For You Team
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Atleast they have started something, that in the long run, will serve the GNU/Free software community well. In a separate mail, they have also mentioned that they are working on getting 100% GNU-based, which is definitely a commitment to change.
I think we should show our maturity and cut them some slack, without being judgemental at the first opportunity. Bringing them down will only work against us.
Best wishes, Clinton Goveas
--- The Open Source Knowledge Base - Everything you wanted to know about Open Source http://os.clintongoveas.com/
-----Original Message----- From: linuxers-admin@mm.ilug-bom.org.in [mailto:linuxers-admin@mm.ilug-bom.org.in] On Behalf Of Harsh R Busa Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 1:12 AM To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Fw: Good News from LINUX For You
funny... various sections of their site run on proprietry s/w and they want to show us their committment to free s/w.
It is not always easy to stick to only free software for websites. For all we know, the server they use to host the site may be a commercial server which runs iis or something.
Also, the site is probably designed by commercial design firms, who may not have the ability to do it under free software systems. I doubt if any corporate will take a decision of changing their server and website design firms just because they work on proprietory software. In most cases, the users do not know the difference anyway.
What is more important is whether the design of the website supports non-propertory browsers like mozila, konquor, etc. If being a Linux magazine, it runs a website that only supports IE, then we all have a reason to fry (not just flame) them, otherwise, I dont think it is important enough.
Regards Saswata
----- Original Message ----- From: "Clinton Goveas" clinton@clintongoveas.com To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 1:17 AM Subject: RE: [ILUG-BOM] Fw: Good News from LINUX For You
Atleast they have started something, that in the long run, will serve the GNU/Free software community well. In a separate mail, they have also mentioned that they are working on getting 100% GNU-based, which is definitely a commitment to change.
I think we should show our maturity and cut them some slack, without being judgemental at the first opportunity. Bringing them down will only work against us.
Best wishes, Clinton Goveas
The Open Source Knowledge Base - Everything you wanted to know about Open Source http://os.clintongoveas.com/
-----Original Message----- From: linuxers-admin@mm.ilug-bom.org.in [mailto:linuxers-admin@mm.ilug-bom.org.in] On Behalf Of Harsh R Busa Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 1:12 AM To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Fw: Good News from LINUX For You
funny... various sections of their site run on proprietry s/w and they want to show us their committment to free s/w.
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i support the idea so much that i ask every bookstall fellow for the mag to create awareness. i believe if ppl dont subscribe and rather buy off the stands it will create more awareness amongst the distributors.
also appreciate their efforts to change but i see it happening a little too slow.
i just want ppl to press upon lfu guys to atleast migrate their lfu based interfaces to free s/w if they really mean what they are doing. even if 50 ppl send mails to them they will do it sooner.
about compliance gnu/linux based browsers. try subscribing to the mag from gnu/linux based browsers. you will get stuck at several places. (the payment gateway is rh based but lfu subscription system is proprietry s/w based)
till recently the site had pop ups which said messages like "You are not using IE and we have designed this site for IE".
if u look at the LUG section again is in closed src thing. this is something that can be done in matter of a couple of hrs on gnu/linux is in asp. this only show how theory of inertia is acting upon them :-)
yes on a positive note we can say that winds of changes are already blowing and thats cool :-)
regards harsh
On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 07:32, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote:
It is not always easy to stick to only free software for websites. For all we know, the server they use to host the site may be a commercial server which runs iis or something.
Also, the site is probably designed by commercial design firms, who may not have the ability to do it under free software systems. I doubt if any corporate will take a decision of changing their server and website design firms just because they work on proprietory software. In most cases, the users do not know the difference anyway.
What is more important is whether the design of the website supports non-propertory browsers like mozila, konquor, etc. If being a Linux magazine, it runs a website that only supports IE, then we all have a reason to fry (not just flame) them, otherwise, I dont think it is important enough.
Regards Saswata
----- Original Message ----- From: "Clinton Goveas" clinton@clintongoveas.com To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 1:17 AM Subject: RE: [ILUG-BOM] Fw: Good News from LINUX For You
Atleast they have started something, that in the long run, will serve the GNU/Free software community well. In a separate mail, they have also mentioned that they are working on getting 100% GNU-based, which is definitely a commitment to change.
I think we should show our maturity and cut them some slack, without being judgemental at the first opportunity. Bringing them down will only work against us.
Best wishes, Clinton Goveas
The Open Source Knowledge Base - Everything you wanted to know about Open Source http://os.clintongoveas.com/
-----Original Message----- From: linuxers-admin@mm.ilug-bom.org.in [mailto:linuxers-admin@mm.ilug-bom.org.in] On Behalf Of Harsh R Busa Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 1:12 AM To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Fw: Good News from LINUX For You
funny... various sections of their site run on proprietry s/w and they want to show us their committment to free s/w.
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Saswata Banerjee & Associates writes:
It is not always easy to stick to only free software for websites. For all we know, the server they use to host the site may be a commercial server which runs iis or something.
I don't think it's that difficult. When major sites like slashdot, yahoo etc. can run their complete sytems on FLOSS software, why not this magazine site. Commercial Server space is not that costly for a commercial enterprise. LAMP professionals are not that difficult to find nowadays. Perhaps the intent (to use FLOSS) is not there.
Also, the site is probably designed by commercial design firms, who may not have the ability to do it under free software systems. I doubt if any corporate will take a decision of changing their server and website design firms just because they work on proprietory software. In most cases, the users do not know the difference anyway.
Even commercial design firms use LAMP to code entire website with very good usability and looks. Many commercial design firms can use php-nuke/post-nuke and other variants to design websites.
What is more important is whether the design of the website supports non-propertory browsers like mozila, konquor, etc. If being a Linux
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magazine, it runs a website that only supports IE, then we all have a reason to fry (not just flame) them, otherwise, I dont think it is important enough.
Mozilla and Konqueror. And why not use clean HTML so that even people can use Opera. I do think that it is important. A magazine which is going all out to attract people and touting itself as a India's First GNU/Linux magazine should do and mean what it says.
Vinayak Hegde APGDST Student NCST-JUHU
----- Original Message ----- From: vinayak_hegde@softhome.net To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 12:46 PM Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Good News from LINUX For You
magazine, it runs a website that only supports IE, then we all have a
reason
to fry (not just flame) them, otherwise, I dont think it is important enough.
Mozilla and Konqueror. And why not use clean HTML so that even people can use Opera. I do think that it is important. A magazine which is going all out to attract people and touting itself as a India's First GNU/Linux magazine should do and mean what it says.
You have lost me. May be a very simply question, but is there something whch mozilla and Konqueror (which came with my linux copy, so I assume they are Free Software) can do which Opera cant ? I dont use Opera, so I am not aware of any limitations.
What I was trying to say, (where others have already expressed alternate view points) is that more than what they use to create and run the software, we should worry if they are not viewable on non-ie browsers. I used Mozilla and Konqueror as examples
Regards Saswata
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On Monday 17 March 2003 15:44, Saswata Banerjee & Associates used the keyboard to enter the following:
You have lost me. May be a very simply question, but is there something whch mozilla and Konqueror (which came with my linux copy, so I assume they are Free Software) can do which Opera cant ? I dont use Opera, so I am not aware of any limitations.
Opera can start much faster than mozilla or konquorer, probably 10 times faster. I prefer galeon (it uses the mozilla engine), since it is FLOSS and is much faster than mozilla.
Regards Saswata
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