Hello All,
I use this email id only for ILUG list messages and since some time I get a lot of spam in my mailbox. Other users too may be facing the same problem so those who use windows for checking list mails, please scan your computers for viruses, spyware or mallware.
Regards,
Rony.
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The reason why you get spam is this.... http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=ronbillypop%40yahoo.co.uk&met...
Sanket Medhi wrote:
The reason why you get spam is this.... http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=ronbillypop%40yahoo.co.uk&met...
Hmm. Can the list admins do something about that?
Regards,
Rony.
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Sometime on Sep 11, R cobbled together some glyphs to say:
Sanket Medhi wrote:
The reason why you get spam is this.... http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=ronbillypop%40yahoo.co.uk&met...
Hmm. Can the list admins do something about that?
mailman is already configured to munge email addresses. don't know why yours shows up correctly in the archives.
In any case, it might not help since when most users reply to your mail, your email address is included in the body. We don't (and shouldn't) modify the body.
On 10-Sep-06, at 10:01 PM, Philip Tellis wrote:
mailman is already configured to munge email addresses. don't know why yours shows up correctly in the archives.
that was in 2005 - the munging was more recent afaik
Philip Tellis wrote:
In any case, it might not help since when most users reply to your mail, your email address is included in the body. We don't (and shouldn't) modify the body.
In this case the id is showing up on the list's header / title section of the page.
Regards,
Rony.
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On 11-Sep-06, at 10:29 PM, Rony wrote:
In any case, it might not help since when most users reply to your mail, your email address is included in the body. We don't (and shouldn't) modify the body.
In this case the id is showing up on the list's header / title section of the page.
as mentioned, that was an old mail - your current mails in the archive are munged
Sometime on Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 09:46:06AM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves said:
On 11-Sep-06, at 10:29 PM, Rony wrote:
In any case, it might not help since when most users reply to your mail, your email address is included in the body. We don't (and shouldn't) modify the body.
In this case the id is showing up on the list's header / title section of the page.
as mentioned, that was an old mail - your current mails in the archive are munged
The entire archive's From: header has been mudged right from 2001. We haven't munged the bodies however. Users should take care not to include whole email addresses in the body.
Anurag
On Sunday 10 September 2006 16:31, Philip Tellis wrote:
mailman is already configured to munge email addresses. don't know why yours shows up correctly in the archives.
Checkout the HTML source of the pages generated. Kmail was sending my email address as the sender it. Shouldn't it have been munged too? :P I've configured kmail so it doesnt send it now.
On 11-Sep-06, at 12:53 PM, Rony wrote:
I use this email id only for ILUG list messages and since some time I get a lot of spam in my mailbox. Other users too may be facing the same problem so those who use windows for checking list mails, please scan your computers for viruses, spyware or mallware.
not only OT but Ofensively OT - who cares what happens to morons who use windoze
On 9/10/06, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:
not only OT but Ofensively OT - who cares what happens to morons who use windoze
Sometimes, you have to consider situations like some student accessing mail from college or some employee from office where its inevitable to change the system just to check mail. :-)
On 10-Sep-06, at 4:29 PM, Sanket Medhi wrote:
not only OT but Ofensively OT - who cares what happens to morons who use windoze
Sometimes, you have to consider situations like some student accessing mail from college or some employee from office where its inevitable to change the system just to check mail. :-)
the more they feel the pain - the sooner things will improve
On 10/09/06, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote: the more they feel the pain - the sooner things will improve
ah, some people will be forced to use it for some days. what about those people who don't have the privilege of using linux because they are handicap and can't use it due to absence of a full screen reader? what about those people who don't have close access to any member who can help them set up internet? it is yet not as easy as it is in windows, remember the cable net service providers can't be asumed to have knowledge of linux as yet, (mine does not have and I am using screen reader any way). never the less, let's stop this topic here. this list is for helthy discussion and rather questions like how to ... with gnu/linux? should be more proper. regards. Krishnakant.
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 10-Sep-06, at 4:29 PM, Sanket Medhi wrote:
not only OT but Ofensively OT - who cares what happens to morons who use windoze
Sometimes, you have to consider situations like some student accessing mail from college or some employee from office where its inevitable to change the system just to check mail. :-)
the more they feel the pain - the sooner things will improve
Guys, I am the one having to feel somebody else's pain. Kenny, read my first mail.
Regards,
Rony.
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On Sunday 10 September 2006 04:29 pm, Sanket Medhi wrote:
On 9/10/06, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:
not only OT but Ofensively OT - who cares what happens to morons who use windoze
Sometimes, you have to consider situations like some student accessing mail from college or some employee from office where its inevitable to change the system just to check mail. :-)
There are far to many "sometimes". Carry a knoppix cd around. It is very useful, particularly when u have limited time- cyber cafes, clients office etc.
On 9/11/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
There are far to many "sometimes". Carry a knoppix cd around. It is very useful, particularly when u have limited time- cyber cafes, clients office etc.
Rgds JTD
Or, DSL on USB Stick!
On Monday 11 September 2006 10:34 am, Kartik Mistry wrote:
On 9/11/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
There are far to many "sometimes". Carry a knoppix cd around. It is very useful, particularly when u have limited time- cyber cafes, clients office etc.
Rgds JTD
Or, DSL on USB Stick!
U cant plug that in in many places (security and lack of usb boot capability), although it is preferable being RW.
On 9/11/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
On Monday 11 September 2006 10:34 am, Kartik Mistry wrote:
Or, DSL on USB Stick!
U cant plug that in in many places (security and lack of usb boot capability), although it is preferable being RW. -- Rgds JTD
I went to one Cyber cafe sometime ago and everybody was using USB Drive! USB is too much cheap nowadays. But, USB booting capacity is yet too far.
On 9/11/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
There are far to many "sometimes". Carry a knoppix cd around. It is very useful, particularly when u have limited time- cyber cafes, clients office etc.
Do you know how much time it actually takes to start a live CD on a P4 with 128 MB RAM? Who is going to go through the pain (read time) required to boot a live CD, then setup networking and what not, just to check email?
And plus, there are things like CMOS password and administrator privileges which make it very difficult for you to do that.
Frankly, I don't think its the OS that might be causing these problems. Its because many people are taking advantage of Google's ability to crawl the web and fetch email addressed from mailing lists. I feel its inevitable. I never check mail from any other other machine than my own, but still I receive over 30 spam messages a day on gmail. This is because my email address can be found on several places on the web. Now, I can't help it!
On Monday 11 September 2006 12:14 pm, Sanket Medhi wrote:
On 9/11/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
There are far to many "sometimes". Carry a knoppix cd around. It is very useful, particularly when u have limited time- cyber cafes, clients office etc.
Do you know how much time it actually takes to start a live CD on a P4 with 128 MB RAM? Who is going to go through the pain (read time) required to boot a live CD, then setup networking and what not, just to check email?
I was talking off important things which u need to do on a machine while living a happy n healthy life. Meds, mails from sundry lists and general time pass ka public can wait.
Frankly, I don't think its the OS that might be causing these problems.
No. Not if u blame only worms and users.
Its because many people are taking advantage of Google's ability to crawl the web and fetch email addressed from mailing lists.
That is the ability of bots and is available to any script writer. Got nothing to do with google per se. However read the "confidentiality" clauses with any service that u sign up. Ur info is a valuable tradeable commodity and is used precisely for that and to provide the "free" service.
jtd wrote:
Carry a knoppix cd around. It is very useful, particularly when u have limited time- cyber cafes, clients office etc.
Good one. HeHe!
Regards,
Rony.
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On 10/09/06 16:00 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 11-Sep-06, at 12:53 PM, Rony wrote:
I use this email id only for ILUG list messages and since some time I get a lot of spam in my mailbox. Other users too may be facing the same problem so those who use windows for checking list mails, please scan your computers for viruses, spyware or mallware.
not only OT but Ofensively OT - who cares what happens to morons who use windoze
Oh, good admins do. Infected Windows systems are used to send spam, viruses, host malware, spamvertised sites, launch DDoS attacks... If one of those is connected to critical equipment, it can lead to disasters (power failures ni North America, for example).
That has everything to do with users being clueless administrators, but still having to administer their systems.
Devdas Bhagat
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 11-Sep-06, at 12:53 PM, Rony wrote:
I use this email id only for ILUG list messages and since some time I get a lot of spam in my mailbox. Other users too may be facing the same problem so those who use windows for checking list mails, please scan your computers for viruses, spyware or mallware.
not only OT but Ofensively OT - who cares what happens to morons who use windoze
Its related to this list and this list only.
Regards,
Rony.
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On Monday 11 September 2006 13:14, Rony wrote:
Its related to this list and this list only.
Hi rony, yes it might be related to this list. There are two holes which one must plug as i discovered a few months ago. First, I am using a POP account with gmail and kmail has this bad habit of sending the email address as the sender ID which gets published over the internet in the linuxer's archives. Thats how bots got my ids. I wasn't aware of this fact until I investigated it thoroughly. Second, is some people's email clients ( pop or webbased or otherwise ) will quote you sometimes as "ronyb....@yahoo.c...". This is the second reason why spam bots get your email address. So check what exactly is your client sending plus check whether other peoples' clients are quoting you as "Rony" or "ronyb....@yah....".
Cheers :)
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