on 21/8/2001 7:27 AM, S. Krishnan at sri_krishnan@yahoo.com wrote:
Are these cards PNP ?
AFAIK, yes. generally, you can expect PCI cards to be PNP. If you're getting one of the NE2000 PCI
Krishnan, What do you mean by PNP in the context of PCI network cards? PNP - Plug And Play, was supposed to be a method for peripherals to get connected and start working without having to go through the hassles of restarting the machine.
AFAIK, PNP means that you don't have to manually set the jumper settings, etc. on the card and the Interrupts, I/O Ports and DMA settings are done automatically by the Operating System. If a card allows itself to be configured this way, it is called PNP compatible.
If you are trying to imply that you can do a PNP on a PCI network card,
I
think there is something amiss, how can you plug in a PCI card into the machine while it is on?
I think that technology is not called PNP, its called hot-plugin or something like that... don't remember the name.
That¹s dangerous. Please don't misguide people...
I don't think so.
No hard feelings! Regards, Shailesh Bhate.
on 21/8/2001 9:59 AM, shailesh bhate at shailesh_bhate@infy.com wrote:
on 21/8/2001 7:27 AM, S. Krishnan at sri_krishnan@yahoo.com wrote:
Are these cards PNP ?
AFAIK, yes. generally, you can expect PCI cards to be PNP. If you're getting one of the NE2000 PCI
Krishnan, What do you mean by PNP in the context of PCI network cards? PNP - Plug And Play, was supposed to be a method for peripherals to get connected and start working without having to go through the hassles of restarting the machine.
AFAIK, PNP means that you don't have to manually set the jumper settings, etc. on the card and the Interrupts, I/O Ports and DMA settings are done automatically by the Operating System. If a card allows itself to be configured this way, it is called PNP compatible.
Wow, that¹s news for me... PNP, I think, was pioneered with the Mac and excellently implemented on the NeXTStep... And it was meant for pluging in external peripherals, without having to restart the machine to use them...
This concept of eliminating the jumper things is cool, again, computing is too confusing, many times the same term is used for multiple different things, but still, I don't think it logical to call the jumper thing as PNP, it would rather be called AC - Auto Config ;-) OR also Avoid Config ;-P
If you are trying to imply that you can do a PNP on a PCI network card, I think there is something amiss, how can you plug in a PCI card into the machine while it is on?
I think that technology is not called PNP, its called hot-plugin or something like that... don't remember the name.
That technology "is" called PNP, also called Hot-Connect or Hot-Plug-In (now-a-days)
That¹s dangerous. Please don't misguide people...
I don't think so. No hard feelings!
No hard feelings here either... :-)
Warm Regards,
~Mayuresh
Sometime on Aug 21, Mayuresh A Kathe assembled some asciibets to say:
I think there is something amiss, how can you plug in a PCI card into the machine while it is on?
I think that technology is not called PNP, its called hot-plugin or something like that... don't remember the name.
That technology "is" called PNP, also called Hot-Connect or
`Hot-Swapping' is what we call the plugging in/out of hardware while the machine is running. Plug and Play is when you plug in new hardware, and it runs without having to do any configuration. Note that plug and play says nothing about the power on/off state of the machine. Hot swappable devices would generally be plug and play, but that is not an absolute requirement. You'd just have to have the drivers already installed.
Oh, and by the way. I have plugged PCI cards in and out while the machine was running. In fact, someone was typing out a document while I was doing this. It was a sound card I think.
Philip
on 22/8/2001 12:37 AM, Philip S Tellis at philip.tellis@iname.com wrote:
Oh, and by the way. I have plugged PCI cards in and out while the machine was running. In fact, someone was typing out a document while I was doing this. It was a sound card I think.
Holy cow, didn't anything bad happen when you plugged in the PCI card? Something like sparks flying around ;-)
That's still dangerous...
~Mayuresh
Sometime Today, Mayuresh A Kathe assembled some asciibets to say:
machine was running. In fact, someone was typing out a document while I was doing this. It was a sound card I think.
Holy cow, didn't anything bad happen when you plugged in the PCI card? Something like sparks flying around ;-)
No, but the monitor turned green when my screwdriver or something fell on the display adapter. Temporary problem.
Philip
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