Hi!
I've found that there is a cult following as far as mail agents and editors are concerned. A guy who uses vi rearely uses emacs and vice versa also a guy who uses mutt rarely uses pine or any other mail agent.
I would like to discuss about mail agent here (I use vi and I love it ;)
I use pine and it suffices most of my needs.
Has anyone used both pine and mutt extensively? What in your opinon is more powerful and user friendly? when I enter mutt the inital UI is not inviting and I'm forced to press the q key :)
I've read that mutt relies on .rc file editing. I'm planning to learn mutt but I just don't want to be disappointed if I figure out that there ain't much difference between pine and mutt.
On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 05:46:55PM +0530, Nikhil Joshi wrote:
I've read that mutt relies on .rc file editing. I'm planning to learn mutt but I just don't want to be disappointed if I figure out that there ain't much difference between pine and mutt.
Mutt is anyday *much* faster than pine. Pine is userfriendly for the "menu oriented" people.
mutt presents emails to you in threaded fashion ( configurable ), and makes them nicely coloured. You have access to all the headers by default.
Best of all, you can configure mutt to have pine's key bindings! ( look in the docs and/or examples directory ).
hth.
+++ Nikhil Joshi [30/03/02 17:46 +0530]:
Hi!
I've found that there is a cult following as far as mail agents and editors are concerned. A guy who uses vi rearely uses emacs and vice versa also a guy who uses mutt rarely uses pine or any other mail agent.
I would like to discuss about mail agent here (I use vi and I love it ;)
I use pine and it suffices most of my needs.
Has anyone used both pine and mutt extensively?
I use mutt. I grabbed Suresh R.'s .muttrc from http://www.hserus.net and use that.
What in your opinon is more powerful and user friendly? when I enter mutt the inital UI is not inviting and I'm forced to press the q key :)
Customize mutt :). Make it user friendly. The CLI isn't newbie friendly either :)
I've read that mutt relies on .rc file editing. I'm planning to learn mutt but I just don't want to be disappointed if I figure out that there ain't much difference between pine and mutt.
Depends on how ou like it. I can personally use anything that works on Linux/BSD. Am editor/MUA/religion agnostic.
Not programming language agnostic though :)
Devdas Bhagat
Yesterday @ 9:04pm Devdas Bhagat wrote:
Depends on how ou like it. I can personally use anything that works on Linux/BSD. Am editor/MUA/religion agnostic.
^^^^^^^^ Have to admit this. had to refer Oxford for this one ;-) Which brings out one question Has anyone come across an util which gives you meaning of a word?
Sometime Today, Nikhil Joshi assembled some asciibets to say:
Have to admit this. had to refer Oxford for this one ;-) Which brings out one question Has anyone come across an util which gives you meaning of a word?
merriam webster (http://www.m-w.com/). it's trivial to write a program to do the lookup for you.
Has anyone come across an util which gives you meaning of a word?
http//www.dict.org
There are Debian packages for it. I have it in my system. One can write a small CGI+bash script to search via a browser, like I have done in my webserver (unfortunately it is allowed only to hosts in my local network, so you can't test it :-(; but you can try the above URL).
Pablo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pablo Ares Gastesi. School of Mathematics, TIFR, Mumbai 400 005, INDIA i Phone: 2152971, ext 2666 pablo@math.tifr.res.in http://www.math.tifr.res.in/~pablo/ Key fingerprint = 1A 7C 0A 22 5A 75 A4 78 62 6F 64 09 C1 A0 F7 E6 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Pablo Ares Gastesi wrote:
write a small CGI+bash script to search via a browser, like I have done in my webserver (unfortunately it is allowed only to hosts in my local network, so you can't test it :-(; but you can try the above
http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~nvivek/
About the dictionary, if you have the dict package installed, here is the HTML part:
------ html ----------------------- <form name=dict method=get action=http://put_your_webserver_here/cgi-bin/dict.sh> <input type=text name=word value=""> <input type=submit value="Get dictionary definition"> </form> -----------------------------------
And this is the dict.sh shell script to be put in the cgi directory:
------ cgi ------------------------ #!/bin/bash export SEARCH=$(echo ${QUERY_STRING} | awk 'BEGIN{RS="&";FS="="} \ $1~/^[a-zA-Z][a-zA-Z0-9_]*$/ {printf "%s\n",$2}') echo -ne "Content-type: text/html\n\n" echo -ne "<html><head>\n<title>Search results for ${SEARCH}</title></head>\n" echo -ne "<body bgcolor=#FFFFFF text=#000000>\n<pre>" PAGER=cat /usr/bin/dict ${SEARCH} echo -ne "</pre></body></html>\n" -----------------------------------
Pablo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pablo Ares Gastesi. School of Mathematics, TIFR, Mumbai 400 005, INDIA i Phone: 2152971, ext 2666 pablo@math.tifr.res.in http://www.math.tifr.res.in/~pablo/ Key fingerprint = 1A 7C 0A 22 5A 75 A4 78 62 6F 64 09 C1 A0 F7 E6 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
I have just made transition from windows to linux. I want to export my favorites created by me in IE to lynx and Mozila. IE dose not provide any facility to export it. Does any one has any idea how to do that? I have the favorite folder on cd.
-dharmesh
On Mar 31, 2002 at 19:21, Nikhil Joshi wrote:
Has anyone come across an util which gives you meaning of a word?
In .bashrc:
spell() { grep -i $* /usr/dict/words } dict() { lynx http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=$* }
(not by me)
Then at the prompt you can type:
spell ^agn dict agnostic
On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Nikhil Joshi wrote:
Hi!
I've found that there is a cult following as far as mail agents and editors are concerned. A guy who uses vi rearely uses emacs and vice versa also a guy who uses mutt rarely uses pine or any other mail agent.
Yeah, you said it.
I would like to discuss about mail agent here (I use vi and I love it ;)
I use pine and it suffices most of my needs.
then why do you want to change ? unless you are just itching to find out what lies beyond the horizon :-)
Has anyone used both pine and mutt extensively?
I use mutt now but I used to use pine when I had a vsnl shell account. I personally prefer mutt. Far more configurable (though maybe pine users may not agree). Config files themselves can be configured to be one single .muttrc or you can have a whole set of text files that are sourced from a minimalistic .muttrc. If you are comfy w/ vi, you can use vi as your editor in mutt.
What in your opinon is more powerful and user friendly? when I enter mutt the inital UI is not inviting and I'm forced to press the q key :)
look for sample config files. Get the one by Telsa Gwynne. It is a simple file but long as it is heavily commented. You can also try Suresh Ramasubramanian's muttrc. It is also linked from the mutt website or go to http://www.hserus.net/ and follow the links.
type mutt at the cli prompt, press c for changing mailboxes, choose your mailbox, <enter> and read your mail which I presume will be in your spool file. press ? for help.
you may also want to subscribe to mutt-users mailing list.
I've read that mutt relies on .rc file editing. I'm planning to learn mutt but I just don't want to be disappointed if I figure out that there ain't much difference between pine and mutt.
oranges and apples, both are fruits but..... :-)
hth,
Sharukh.
On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 05:46:55PM +0530, Nikhil Joshi wrote:
A guy who uses vi rearely uses emacs and vice versa also a guy who uses mutt rarely uses pine or any other mail agent.
A guy who uses pine generally uses vi and a guy who uses mutt generally uses emacs ;)
Abhir
Sometime on Apr 8, Abhir Joshi assembled some asciibets to say:
A guy who uses pine generally uses vi and a guy who uses mutt generally uses emacs ;)
How did you come to that conclusion? Especially since the default editor in pine is pico, and the default editor in mutt is vi. emacs has its own email client (unlike other email clients that have their own text editors), but then, whoever said that emacs was a text editor?
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 12:35:29AM +0530, Philip S Tellis wrote:
How did you come to that conclusion? Especially since the default editor in pine is pico, and the default editor in mutt is vi. emacs has
I think people have brains and hands with which they can change the default editor!
Anyway, was kidding man! why do you take things marked ;) seriously? You probably did not relate what I said and what I quoted from the previous mail.
its own email client (unlike other email clients that have their own text editors), but then, whoever said that emacs was a text editor?
emacs is a monster, its more than a text editor. doesn't mean that you cant call emacs a text editor.
Abhir
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Abhir Joshi wrote:
Chill, all's cool.
its own email client (unlike other email clients that have their own text editors), but then, whoever said that emacs was a text editor?
emacs is a monster, its more than a text editor. doesn't mean that you cant call emacs a text editor.
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