Has anybody tried Virtual Linux? http://www.virtual-linux.org/
Let's have some feedback. Seems to be a very interesting project. Finally, Ramnikbhai can try out linux without having to "touch" his Existing Setup (TM).
Manish
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 02:04:54AM +0530, Manish Jethani wrote:
Let's have some feedback. Seems to be a very interesting project. Finally, Ramnikbhai can try out linux without having to "touch" his Existing Setup (TM).
Uhmm, Have u tried Knoppix yet? AFAIK, it has been doing the same things as virtual linux, for a while now, and has been doing them really well. Some advantages of knoppix are 1 - It's debian underneath. 2 - It has hardware detection better than any distribution in the market. 3 - It has a lot of software on just one cd (iirc, knoppix too uses cloop). 4 - It's possible to install knoppix on a hd and have a full fledged Debian system in less than an hour. 5 - It's very useful as a rescue disc (I have used it on numerous ocassions to backup data from a fat32 filesystem that Windows won't read). 5 - Lastly, it also happens to have a very helpful support website and IRC channels.
Bah, my last email was overloaded with typos/gramatical errors.
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 04:57:56PM -0500, Bhargav Bhatt wrote:
Uhmm, Have u tried Knoppix yet? AFAIK, it has been doing the same things as
^^^ It should be "you". I saw someone mention how they hated to see a "u" instead of a "you". My apologies to that person.
virtual linux, for a while now, and has been doing them really well. Some advantages of knoppix are 1 - It's debian underneath. 2 - It has hardware detection better than any distribution in the market. 3 - It has a lot of software on just one cd (iirc, knoppix too uses cloop). 4 - It's possible to install knoppix on a hd and have a full fledged Debian system in less than an hour. 5 - It's very useful as a rescue disc (I have used it on numerous ocassions to backup data from a fat32 filesystem that Windows won't read). 5 - Lastly, it also happens to have a very helpful support website and IRC
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On Sun, 02 Feb 2003 02:04:54 +0530 Manish Jethani manish.jethani@oracle.com wrote:
|****************************************** |* |* LUG Meet @ 3.00 pm on 2nd Feb. @ Ruparel College Science Dept. Grnd. Fl. |* |****************************************** | |Has anybody tried Virtual Linux? |http://www.virtual-linux.org/ | |Let's have some feedback. Seems to be a very interesting |project. Finally, Ramnikbhai can try out linux without |having to "touch" his Existing Setup (TM).
These run-linux-off-a-cd distros seem very promising, and they're brilliant for showing off a Linux system but in my opinion they fall short of helping a transitioner.
A more promising discovery (for transitioners) is TopologiLinux (http://hem.passagen.se/svto/tlinux/), which actually installs a full fledged Slackware distro as a file on your existing FAT32 or NTFS drive.
No need to repartition. It doesn't even install a bootloader. It just creates a file in your Windows system called base.img in which it loop mounts an ext3fs or whatever, on top on the current NTFS. Once you're booted into linux, you don't even know that you're running from NTFS. Performance is pretty good too, on my PIII 500 128M test machine, with Win2K Prof.
Another great use for this kind of distro is for some who would want to install linux at work, but can't because you're not allowed to repartition and install 'another' OS. The best thing about this distro is, if you don't like it, you can just Shift-Del the file from your Windows drive.
Hope this helps all the Ramnikbhai-s out there.
Zainul.
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Zainul M Charbiwala zainul@ee.iitb.ac.in writes:
No need to repartition. It doesn't even install a bootloader.
WoW. Cool. Now then why do you want to force GNU/Linux down the throat of such people?
Just a humble query. I really want to know the motivation. So Dont flame.
q u a s i wrote:
Zainul M Charbiwala zainul@ee.iitb.ac.in writes:
No need to repartition. It doesn't even install a bootloader.
WoW. Cool. Now then why do you want to force GNU/Linux down the throat of such people?
Zainul M Charbiwala zainul@ee.iitb.ac.in: # Another great use for this kind of distro is for some who # would want to install linux at work, but can't because # you're not allowed to repartition and install 'another' OS.
That explains it?
There's no "forcing down the throat" here.
Manish
Manish Jethani manish.jethani@oracle.com writes:
That explains it?
There's no "forcing down the throat" here.
sure. thanks.
On Sun, 02 Feb 2003 02:04:54 +0530 Manish Jethani manish.jethani@oracle.com wrote:
|****************************************** |* |* LUG Meet @ 3.00 pm on 2nd Feb. @ Ruparel College Science Dept. Grnd. Fl. |* |****************************************** | |Has anybody tried Virtual Linux? |http://www.virtual-linux.org/ | |Let's have some feedback. Seems to be a very interesting |project. Finally, Ramnikbhai can try out linux without |having to "touch" his Existing Setup (TM).
These run-linux-off-a-cd distros seem very promising, and they're brilliant for showing off a Linux system but in my opinion they fall short of helping a transitioner.
A more promising discovery (for transitioners) is TopologiLinux (http://hem.passagen.se/svto/tlinux/), which actually installs a full fledged Slackware distro as a file on your existing FAT32 or NTFS drive.
No need to repartition. It doesn't even install a bootloader. It just creates a file in your Windows system called base.img in which it loop mounts an ext3fs or whatever, on top on the current NTFS. Once you're booted into linux, you don't even know that you're running from NTFS. Performance is pretty good too, on my PIII 500 128M test machine, with Win2K Prof.
Another great use for this kind of distro is for some who would want to install linux at work, but can't because you're not allowed to repartition and install 'another' OS. The best thing about this distro is, if you don't like it, you can just Shift-Del the file from your Windows drive.
Hope this helps all the Ramnikbhai-s out there.
Zainul.
| |Manish | |-- |"The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do |not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation." | |Manish Jethani phone (work) +91 80 51073488 |Member Technical Staff manish.jethani@oracle.com |Oracle (India) | |Visit my personal home page: |http://www.geocities.com/manish_jethani/ | | | |-- |_______________________________________________ | |http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers | |
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