Hi all, Please suggest me a GNU/Linux distribution for a PC having following configuration:
Processor : VIA Samuel 2 Speed: 796.32 MHz RAM: 512 MB
The suggested GNU/Linux distribution MUST have at least following packages available in it by default:
1. KDE 2. C/C++/Java Support 3. LAMP Support 4. Quanta Plus 5. Open Office 6. Desktop Publishing Support 7. All audio and video codecs 8. VLC 9. All other standard components of GNU/Linux distribution
Please don't suggest URL for installation of additional packages. I want such an installation DVD which should contain ALL these packages BY DEFAULT.
Best Regards ... Pankaj Kumar
On 5 June 2010 08:15, Pankaj Kumar pankaj@glug4muz.org wrote:
Please suggest me a GNU/Linux distribution for a PC having following configuration:
Thats hard . lets assume every hardware works these days :)
The suggested GNU/Linux distribution MUST have at least following packages available in it by default:
- KDE
- C/C++/Java Support
- LAMP Support
- Quanta Plus
- Open Office
- Desktop Publishing Support
- All audio and video codecs
- VLC
- All other standard components of GNU/Linux distribution
Sabayon a gentoo based distro does make a good work of KDE and has all media codecs . I am not sure of quanta plus . All others should be fairly standard. Download the DVD version . http://www.sabayon.org/
Regards, Pavithran
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 3:48 PM, pavithran s pavi.eu@gmail.com wrote:
On 5 June 2010 08:15, Pankaj Kumar pankaj@glug4muz.org wrote:
Please suggest me a GNU/Linux distribution for a PC having following configuration:
Thats hard . lets assume every hardware works these days :)
This might help... http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php?lang=en A Linux distribution chooser.
Regards, Mohan S N
On Saturday 05 June 2010 08:15:46 Pankaj Kumar wrote:
Please don't suggest URL for installation of additional packages. I want such an installation DVD which should contain ALL these packages BY DEFAULT.
fedora, mandriva, debian ... and about a few hundred others
On Saturday 05 June 2010 08:15:46 Pankaj Kumar wrote:
Hi all, Please suggest me a GNU/Linux distribution for a PC having following configuration:
Processor : VIA Samuel 2 Speed: 796.32 MHz RAM: 512 MB
The suggested GNU/Linux distribution MUST have at least following packages available in it by default:
- KDE
- C/C++/Java Support
- LAMP Support
- Quanta Plus
- Open Office
- Desktop Publishing Support
- All audio and video codecs
- VLC
- All other standard components of GNU/Linux distribution
Please don't suggest URL for installation of additional packages. I want such an installation DVD which should contain ALL these packages BY DEFAULT.
Lenny. I have used Sarge, etch, lenny and self rolled stuff on this board.
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Pankaj Kumar pankaj@glug4muz.org wrote:
The suggested GNU/Linux distribution MUST have at least following packages available in it by default: ....
Debian/Fedora has DVDs you can try.
On 6 June 2010 14:30, Kartik Mistry kartik.mistry@gmail.com wrote:
Debian/Fedora has DVDs you can try.
He needs a one DVD which have everything including codecs,php etc which wont be available with any popular distros by default .
I also forgot to mention Ubuntu studio http://ubuntustudio.org/ and linux mint http://www.linuxmint.com/ both will be having multimedia codecs and are based on ubuntu . The DVD versions will have all packages ( am not sure of web development packages)
Here is something desi right from our durgapur LUG and is based on fedora http://omega.dgplug.org/
Regards, Pavithran
On Sunday 06 June 2010 06:50 PM, pavithran s wrote:
On 6 June 2010 14:30, Kartik Mistrykartik.mistry@gmail.com wrote:
Debian/Fedora has DVDs you can try.
He needs a one DVD which have everything including codecs,php etc which wont be available with any popular distros by default .
I also forgot to mention Ubuntu studio http://ubuntustudio.org/ and linux mint http://www.linuxmint.com/ both will be having multimedia codecs and are based on ubuntu . The DVD versions will have all packages ( am not sure of web development packages)
His machine is old.
On Sunday 06 June 2010 20:11:52 Rony wrote:
On Sunday 06 June 2010 06:50 PM, pavithran s wrote:
On 6 June 2010 14:30, Kartik Mistrykartik.mistry@gmail.com
wrote:
Debian/Fedora has DVDs you can try.
He needs a one DVD which have everything including codecs,php etc which wont be available with any popular distros by default .
I also forgot to mention Ubuntu studio http://ubuntustudio.org/ and linux mint http://www.linuxmint.com/ both will be having multimedia codecs and are based on ubuntu . The DVD versions will have all packages ( am not sure of web development packages)
His machine is old.
But he is asking for specific stuff. I presume he knows the limitations. The hardware does work well for a single instance of either encode or decode at vga or 1/2 D1 (or lower). However if he opens 2 youtube pages he will be locked solid. Killing an app will take a good 3 minutes.
On Sunday 06 June 2010 09:11 PM, jtd wrote:
On Sunday 06 June 2010 20:11:52 Rony wrote:
On Sunday 06 June 2010 06:50 PM, pavithran s wrote:
On 6 June 2010 14:30, Kartik Mistrykartik.mistry@gmail.com
wrote:
Debian/Fedora has DVDs you can try.
He needs a one DVD which have everything including codecs,php etc which wont be available with any popular distros by default .
I also forgot to mention Ubuntu studio http://ubuntustudio.org/ and linux mint http://www.linuxmint.com/ both will be having multimedia codecs and are based on ubuntu . The DVD versions will have all packages ( am not sure of web development packages)
His machine is old.
But he is asking for specific stuff. I presume he knows the limitations. The hardware does work well for a single instance of either encode or decode at vga or 1/2 D1 (or lower). However if he opens 2 youtube pages he will be locked solid. Killing an app will take a good 3 minutes.
Lenny will suit him the best. However Ubuntu Studio and Linux Mint will be too heavy.
On Sunday 06 June 2010 20:11:52 Rony wrote:
I also forgot to mention Ubuntu studio http://ubuntustudio.org/ and linux mint http://www.linuxmint.com/ both will be having multimedia codecs and are based on ubuntu . The DVD versions will have all packages ( am not sure of web development packages)
His machine is old.
old people/machines cannot use linux?
On 6 June 2010 23:28, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:
old people/machines cannot use linux?
Of course they can :)
On machines part the distros which specified might be consuming a bit of processor powe but the user must be removing some useless services from his desktop else FF + OpenOffice is enough to slow down things .
I would also take the chance to suggest using google chromium browser or epiphany which take less memory and processor . chromium will run on webkit while epiphany runs on gecko( more or less similar to FF)
The user seems like will be offline for most of the time ( demands for 1 dvd everything distro) hence would suggest him to use something like GNU/Emacs for text editing and development purpose .
Old people are very mush welcome to use GNU/Linux . Actually I heard of many old people migrating to GNU/Linux because of its simplicity and no nuisance like viruses etc .
Also GNU/Linux tends to be having freely ( as in cost) available accessibile applications . Gnome tends to be more accessible desktop with its project http://projects.gnome.org/accessibility/
Old people I think wont be asking for games or flash editing which are hard to do on GNU/Linux . So lets migrate our old people to GNU/Linux . its easy . Let them have free and accessible desktop .
Regards, Pavithran
On Sunday 06 June 2010 11:47:03 pm pavithran s wrote:
on webkit while epiphany runs on gecko( more or less similar to FF)
ok pardon me but ... http://xkcd.com/386/ Epiphany does not run on gecko anymore they have moved over to webkit.
Yohan
On 6 June 2010 22:20, Yohan Pereira yohan.pereira@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 06 June 2010 11:47:03 pm pavithran s wrote: Epiphany does not run on gecko anymore they have moved over to webkit.
I didnt know that . Anyways debian unstable does offer both gecko and webkit versions of epiphany .
I dont think ephiphany gecko is outphased in all distros .
Regards, Pavithran
First see his specs .... he want all audio and video codecs ..i think with in the os without need of installing anything else... so debian and ubuntu is out... his machine is pretty old... so any other answer?
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:28 PM, sudheer k muhammed sudheerkmuhammed@gmail.com wrote:
First see his specs .... he want all audio and video codecs ..i think with in the os without need of installing anything else... so debian and ubuntu is out... his machine is pretty old... so any other answer?
Give a try with knoppix 6 , which is having LXDE as desktop environment .
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On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Siji Sunny sijisunny@gmail.com wrote:
Give a try with knoppix 6 , which is having LXDE as desktop environment .
OP has KDE as requirement..
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Kartik Mistry kartik.mistry@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Siji Sunny sijisunny@gmail.com wrote:
Give a try with knoppix 6 , which is having LXDE as desktop environment .
OP has KDE as requirement..
Oh sorry,then use knoppix 5 which is having KDE
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On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Siji Sunny sijisunny@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Kartik Mistry kartik.mistry@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Siji Sunny sijisunny@gmail.com wrote:
Give a try with knoppix 6 , which is having LXDE as desktop environment .
OP has KDE as requirement..
Oh sorry,then use knoppix 5 which is having KDE
Also LAMP, all audio video plugins Open office ,C++ etc bydefault there with knoppix 5 series.
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On Monday 07 June 2010 16:42:16 Kartik Mistry wrote:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Siji Sunny sijisunny@gmail.com
wrote:
Give a try with knoppix 6 , which is having LXDE as desktop environment .
OP has KDE as requirement..
There was this website that built live dbian cds for you any one remembers that.
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 5:21 PM, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
On Monday 07 June 2010 16:42:16 Kartik Mistry wrote:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Siji Sunny sijisunny@gmail.com
wrote:
Give a try with knoppix 6 , which is having LXDE as desktop environment .
OP has KDE as requirement..
There was this website that built live dbian cds for you any one remembers that.
I think debian live version doesnt have any installer, if am wrong pls correct me
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On Monday 07 June 2010 17:56:47 Siji Sunny wrote:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 5:21 PM, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
On Monday 07 June 2010 16:42:16 Kartik Mistry wrote:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Siji Sunny sijisunny@gmail.com
wrote:
Give a try with knoppix 6 , which is having LXDE as desktop environment .
OP has KDE as requirement..
There was this website that built live dbian cds for you any one remembers that.
I think debian live version doesnt have any installer, if am wrong pls correct me
I did install from live cd. But i dont remember if it had a default installer or i had done so manually. In any case a manual install should be simple.
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:28 PM, sudheer k muhammed sudheerkmuhammed@gmail.com wrote:
he want all audio and video codecs ..i think with in the os without need of installing anything else... so debian and ubuntu is out... his machine is pretty old... so any other answer?
There is no distribution that comes with *all* audio and video codecs. Has KDE and all requirements as OP posted. Even, Debian's first DVD comes with Gnome as desktop environment.
One can check list of Debian DVDs contents at, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/list-dvd/ (note: this is for i386 and testing aka sqeeze)
On Monday 07 June 2010 04:28 PM, sudheer k muhammed wrote:
First see his specs .... he want all audio and video codecs ..i think with in the os without need of installing anything else... so debian and ubuntu is out... his machine is pretty old... so any other answer?
Install his entire stuff using Debian and internet on a good machine and clone it on the target machine.
On Sunday 06 June 2010 11:47 PM, pavithran s wrote:
I would also take the chance to suggest using google chromium browser or epiphany which take less memory and processor . chromium will run on webkit while epiphany runs on gecko( more or less similar to FF)
I haven't tried Google Crome in Linux however in doze, it can be installed by a user without any admin access. Even in Linux, I could install Google Earth without root access. This is not good from the admin point of view. Crome does not support Firefox plugins and does not have any plugin to download (and convert) YouTube and other videos into the machine.
2010/6/7 Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com:
Crome does not support Firefox plugins and does not have any plugin to download (and convert) YouTube and other videos into the machine.
Use gnash, it allows saving videos. Right click, Edit -> Preferences -> Media -> Save media streams to disk. Also Adobe plugin saves youtube videos in /tmp which should be the case for chrome as well.
You might want to check the latest snapshots as a bug that prevented playing youtube videos is fixed recently. There are prebuilt rpms and debs available from http://getgnash.org/packages/
If you have 64 bit OS get it from http://j4v4m4n.in/gnash-snapshots/ (compiled on debian sid)
On Monday 07 June 2010 06:48 PM, Praveen A wrote:
2010/6/7 Ronygnulinuxist@gmail.com:
Crome does not support Firefox plugins and does not have any plugin to download (and convert) Â YouTube and other videos into the machine.
Use gnash, it allows saving videos. Right click, Edit -> Preferences -> Media -> Save media streams to disk. Also Adobe plugin saves youtube videos in /tmp which should be the case for chrome as well.
You might want to check the latest snapshots as a bug that prevented playing youtube videos is fixed recently. There are prebuilt rpms and debs available from http://getgnash.org/packages/
If you have 64 bit OS get it from http://j4v4m4n.in/gnash-snapshots/ (compiled on debian sid)
Thanks for the info. Does gnash download and convert videos to other video and audio formats? The Video Downloadhelper plugin in FF does it with ffmpeg.
2010/6/7 Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com:
Thanks for the info. Does gnash download and convert videos to other video and audio formats? The Video Downloadhelper plugin in FF does it with ffmpeg.
Well, it saves videos in original flv format, which all desktop player can play. If you need to convert it to other formats, you can use ffmpeg proper.
On Sunday 06 June 2010 23:47:03 pavithran s wrote:
On 6 June 2010 23:28, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:
old people/machines cannot use linux?
Of course they can :)
On machines part the distros which specified might be consuming a bit of processor powe but the user must be removing some useless services from his desktop else FF + OpenOffice is enough to slow down things .
actually I found puppy fantastic for old people. It uses abiword and has practically everything that a casual user of computers needs.
On Sunday 06 June 2010 11:28 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On Sunday 06 June 2010 20:11:52 Rony wrote:
I also forgot to mention Ubuntu studio http://ubuntustudio.org/ and linux mint http://www.linuxmint.com/ both will be having multimedia codecs and are based on ubuntu . The DVD versions will have all packages ( am not sure of web development packages)
His machine is old.
old people/machines cannot use linux?
Not Ubuntu Studio or Linux Mint on an old machine.
I will write about my experience with older machines, lot of things on web for Foss + old hardware.
I've worked with CENT OS 4.1 on a 900 mhz p3 512 ram machine doing qt/c++/opengl development. Machine was slow for testing but ok enuf for devlopment, had kde 3.5 that worked well. However centos is short on packages by default and you would have to install them once. But it works on lesser hardware.
In general u can try older distros...
Regards, Sanket
On 7 Jun 2010 08:38, "Rony" gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 06 June 2010 11:28 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On Sunday 06 June 2010 20:11:52 Rony wro...
Not Ubuntu Studio or Linux Mint on an old machine.
On Monday 07 June 2010 08:55 AM, Sanket Shah wrote:
I will write about my experience with older machines, lot of things on web for Foss + old hardware.
I've worked with CENT OS 4.1 on a 900 mhz p3 512 ram machine doing qt/c++/opengl development. Machine was slow for testing but ok enuf for devlopment, had kde 3.5 that worked well. However centos is short on packages by default and you would have to install them once. But it works on lesser hardware.
In general u can try older distros...
In Jan I downloaded the 'latest' CentOS 5.1 for a govt. office and this latest distro had kernel 2.6.18, when 2.6.30/32 was already out. They are way behind even Debian Lenny which has 2.6.26.
Hi,
On 06/06/2010 06:50 PM, pavithran s wrote:
Here is something desi right from our durgapur LUG and is based on fedora http://omega.dgplug.org/
ahem *cough* ...ehe, hate to be a d**k about this but besides providing hosting what exactly is dgplug's contribution to omega ? AFAIK, churning out omega is the sole effort of rahul sundaram.
Anyways, for the OP, +1 on the omega fedora remix suggestion. It is a great distro for those of us not bound by those ridiculous US software patents laws.
cheers, - steve
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