Hi all,
Have tried 2 programs-- notecase 0.7.1 and gjots2 on ubuntu 8.04 (i386). Both are buggy and crash randomly or cause saved data to disappear. The developer for notecase has opted for development/support for a commercial version now and there is no support for the free version. Ubuntu also does not maintain it.
Gjots2 crashes on pressing the backspace key.
I have been using freemind 0.9 but it has some drawbacks-- particularly speed (because of implementation in java) and features not found in the outliners.
Also am looking for a site which could show at a glance how the various outliner programs are rated by users -- directory.fsf.org needs clicking each software link to know about its rating/ ohloh.net has changed its format/
If you know of better tools, pls let me know.
thanks Kussh
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Kussh Singh kussh.singh@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
Have tried 2 programs-- notecase 0.7.1 and gjots2 on ubuntu 8.04 (i386). Both are buggy and crash randomly or cause saved data to disappear. The developer for notecase has opted for development/support for a commercial version now and there is no support for the free version. Ubuntu also does not maintain it.
Gjots2 crashes on pressing the backspace key.
I have been using freemind 0.9 but it has some drawbacks-- particularly speed (because of implementation in java) and features not found in the outliners.
Also am looking for a site which could show at a glance how the various outliner programs are rated by users -- directory.fsf.org needs clicking each software link to know about its rating/ ohloh.net has changed its format/
If you know of better tools, pls let me know.
thanks Kussh -- http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/ http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority.html -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Emacs+org-mode. http://orgmode.org
If you know of better tools, pls let me know.
Try Xmind ( http://www.xmind.net ),
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Vivek Varghese Cherian < vivekcherian@gmail.com> wrote:
If you know of better tools, pls let me know.
Try Xmind ( http://www.xmind.net ),
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I don't think my message got through to the op so here's a repost you may find helpful:
Emacs + org-mode does outlining, scheduling, note-taking, organizing, etc., and it does it extremely well. Give it a try. The same thing can work no matter which OS you're using, so it's well worth the effort to learn to use it.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Yesudeep yesudeep@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think my message got through to the op so here's a repost you may find helpful:
Emacs + org-mode does outlining, scheduling, note-taking, organizing, etc., and it does it extremely well. Give it a try. The same thing can work no matter which OS you're using, so it's well worth the effort to learn to use it.
-- Cheers, Yesudeep Mangalapilly | येसुदीप मंगलािपल्ली
Thanks Yesudeep for the reply. Actually I was looking for an easy to install debian package which is rated well too. Though I was able to install emacs using synaptic, orgmode will have to be manually installed (which is not easy for me as earlier in the past i have broken ubuntu sometimes with the wrong libraries etc and now i am afraid of wasting so much time and effort to get it back to work)
If synaptic had supported it, I may have tried the software considering it seems to be robust and well tested-- current version is 4 or 6 I think. There were 2 PPAs for 2 versions of the software on launchpad.net and i cannot fathom which would work for ubuntu8.04 (does intrepid correspond to 8.04 or hardy? --just lazy to find out)
Reviewing and learning to use so many softwares is quite a pain.
Thank you Kussh
Kussh Singh wrote:
If synaptic had supported it, I may have tried the software considering it seems to be robust and well tested-- current version is 4 or 6 I think. There were 2 PPAs for 2 versions of the software on launchpad.net and i cannot fathom which would work for ubuntu8.04 (does intrepid correspond to 8.04 or hardy? --just lazy to find out)
in Ubuntu 8.10, not from any of the PPAs
$ aptsearch org-mode org-mode - keep notes, maintain ToDo lists, and do project planning in emacs
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Parthan SR parth.technofreak@gmail.com wrote:
$ aptsearch org-mode org-mode - keep notes, maintain ToDo lists, and do project planning in emacs
xmind is much better option than org-mode as he's already familiar with freemind and just being lazy :) As freemind is slower (due to javabase) xmind should be another good option.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sameer Shinde. M:- +91 98204 61580 Millions saw the apple fall, but Newton was the one who asked why.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, sameer shinde s9sameer@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Parthan SR parth.technofreak@gmail.com wrote:
xmind is much better option than org-mode as he's already familiar with freemind and just being lazy :) As freemind is slower (due to javabase) xmind should be another good option.
I tried xmind on ubuntu 8.04 (i386) but found that it caused problems with
open office as its deb file is not OFFICIALLY supported thru synaptic (xmind is not part of the synaptic repositories). Also it must be using a java JRE/libraries which are more advanced or incompatible with the one available for ubuntu 8.04.
SO i had to COMPLETELY remove xmind from my system and the problem went away--may have been due to some conflicting java file.
xmind looks nice but freemind has MANY more features (including export to various other formats including html). The unique features of xmind which I found good were 1- horizontal layout of the nodes/sub nodes with less gap between them vertically so that more space can be utilised as compared to freemind's use of space. One is able to see more in the same space.
2 I didn't try the spreadsheet mode but read about it.
Things which xmind did not do well as compared to freemind are
1 It exports a very rudimentary form of html which is not even in any structured/indented mode. The generated html provides no intuitiveness for the data. There is no pdf or xhtml or other basic export modes.
2 Formatting features for nodes/subnodes such as changing text color/font/background etc are much less compared to freemind
This is my EXTREMELY BRIEF review of xmind and I am no expert but a layman.
In case of orgmode, maybe emacs will have to be learnt and thats another project-- unless somebody has already made a module for emacs which can allow a user to switch from emacs keyboard mode to the more familiar windows keyboard mode (where cut is done by ctrl and x, paste is done by ctrl-v etc etc)
Thanks for your replies. Kussh
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Kussh Singh kussh.singh@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, sameer shinde s9sameer@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
In case of orgmode, maybe emacs will have to be learnt and thats another project-- unless somebody has already made a module for emacs which can allow a user to switch from emacs keyboard mode to the more familiar windows keyboard mode (where cut is done by ctrl and x, paste is done by ctrl-v etc etc)
Put this in a file called ~/.emacs
(cua-mode t) ;; Column editing mode. (setq cua-enable-cua-keys t) ;; What you want.
Emacs should load that file automatically. If you're already running an Emacs session and don't want to quit, just `M-x load-file RET ~/.emacs'.
Now, I know why you want the usual Cut and Paste keys. I'd, however, prefer the Emacs way of doing things.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Yesudeep yesudeep@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Kussh Singh kussh.singh@gmail.comwrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, sameer shinde s9sameer@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
Put this in a file called ~/.emacs
(cua-mode t) ;; Column editing mode. (setq cua-enable-cua-keys t) ;; What you want.
Emacs should load that file automatically. If you're already running an Emacs session and don't want to quit, just `M-x load-file RET ~/.emacs'.
Now, I know why you want the usual Cut and Paste keys. I'd, however, prefer the Emacs way of doing things.
There's a possibility I might have missed a preference here or there but this page should be of help: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CuaMode
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Yesudeep yesudeep@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Yesudeep yesudeep@gmail.com wrote:
Put this in a file called ~/.emacs
(cua-mode t) ;; Column editing mode. (setq cua-enable-cua-keys t) ;; What you want.
Emacs should load that file automatically. If you're already running an Emacs session and don't want to quit, just `M-x load-file RET ~/.emacs'.
Now, I know why you want the usual Cut and Paste keys. I'd, however, prefer the Emacs way of doing things.
There's a possibility I might have missed a preference here or there but this page should be of help: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CuaMode
-- Cheers, Yesudeep Mangalapilly | येसुदीप मंगलािपल्ली
Thanks Yesudeep for all the help. Learning emacs and orgmode would have been a bit time consuming. Will try the software later sometime-- emacs is very very powerful but it needs time to learn/master.
I had to change some preferences in notecase and the lost edits/changes problem has been resolved. So its easier to stick to a tried and tested software that one is familiar with.
Cheers, Kussh
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