Dlink was one of the crooked companies that violated the gpl and was taken to court by Harold Welte. They lost the case. Their defence shows their crookedness and greed. Dlink contended that linux indulged in price fixing by keeping price at zero and hence was indulging in monopolistic behaviour. Therfore by magic Dlink was allowed to violate the terms of the GPL. The court said that irrespective of the allegation of price fixing, Dlink ceased to be a licencee of the gpl if it violtates any clause of the gpl. Case was filed by Harold Welte of iptables fame.
Krishnakant could u put this in the press.
This is a great victory cause it immediately fixes all responsibility on the distributor without exceptions due to alleged gpl.
Time to boycott dlink. Alternative is DAX for switches and low end network stuff.
I belive that i have found another gpl violation from one of the largest IT houses in the country. They had developed an embedded kernel on arm for another multinational. The multinational's local contact says that thay dont have the source cause the IT house did not give them the source, and seemed to be unaware of the gpl requirements. Further investigation continues. I am not disclosing names until I am very sure. The company has already lost an order of Rs.30 lacs. If it can play dirty with the gpl it will most certainly do the same to me.
On 26-Sep-06, at 11:34 AM, jtd wrote:
I belive that i have found another gpl violation from one of the largest IT houses in the country
which one?
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 06:16, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 26-Sep-06, at 11:34 AM, jtd wrote:
I belive that i have found another gpl violation from one of the largest IT houses in the country
which one?
Read his post carefully... He clearly said he wont disclose it until he is very _VERY_ sure about it :)
On 26/09/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
Dlink was one of the crooked companies that violated the gpl and was taken to court by Harold Welte. They lost the case. Their defence shows their crookedness and greed. Dlink contended that linux indulged in price fixing by keeping price at zero and hence was indulging in monopolistic behaviour. Therfore by magic Dlink was allowed to violate the terms of the GPL. The court said that irrespective of the allegation of price fixing, Dlink ceased to be a licencee of the gpl if it violtates any clause of the gpl.
who was indulged in price fixing? who is linux? was the company talking about the linux community? or linus him self?
Case was filed by Harold Welte of iptables fame.
very good. such people should file the cases to make people more responsible to their duties. I am forwarding this email to all who respect gpl and I hope Dr. Nagarjuna is also reading this. I will also forward this email to him/
Krishnakant could u put this in the press.
I properly need to understand this case. I am talking with the guys of DNA today any ways for some linux promotion campain. I am planning a series of articles on free and open softwares. as I said in some previous email, I am lifting my pen again.
This is a great victory cause it immediately fixes all responsibility on the distributor without exceptions due to alleged gpl.
Time to boycott dlink. Alternative is DAX for switches and low end network stuff.
lol, im already using dax for most of my networking needs.
I belive that i have found another gpl violation from one of the largest IT houses in the country. They had developed an embedded kernel on arm for another multinational. The multinational's local contact says that thay dont have the source cause the IT house did not give them the source, and seemed to be unaware of the gpl requirements. Further investigation continues. I am not disclosing names until I am very sure. The company has already lost an order of Rs.30 lacs. If it can play dirty with the gpl it will most certainly do the same to me.
jtd, could you kindly email me off the list on krmane@gmail.com or this vary email id? I lost your contact number and your visiting card you had given me. I will certainly meet you in the coming few days. regards. Krishnakant.
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 12:26, krishnakant Mane wrote:
On 26/09/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
Dlink was one of the crooked companies that violated the gpl and was taken to court by Harold Welte. They lost the case. Their defence shows their crookedness and greed. Dlink contended that linux indulged in price fixing by keeping price at zero and hence was indulging in monopolistic behaviour. Therfore by magic Dlink was allowed to violate the terms of the GPL. The court said that irrespective of the allegation of price fixing, Dlink ceased to be a licencee of the gpl if it violtates any clause of the gpl.
who was indulged in price fixing? who is linux? was the company talking about the linux community? or linus him self?
The details are not clear as yet cause the original complaint and the judgement is in German.
On 26/09/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
The details are not clear as yet cause the original complaint and the judgement is in German.
can you give me the link? I understand german. Krishnakant.
2006/9/26, krishnakant Mane researchbase@gmail.com:
can you give me the link? I understand german.
http://gpl-violations.org/news/20060922-dlink-judgement_frankfurt.html has both the press release and the judgement in German.
Regards Praveen
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The details are not clear as yet cause the original complaint and the judgement is in German.
http://www.osnews.com/story.php/15946/GPLViolations.org-Wins-Case-Against-D-... http://gpl-violations.org/news/20060922-dlink-judgement_frankfurt.html http://www.jbb.de/urteil_lg_frankfurt_gpl.pdf (German) English translation will be provided by gpl-violations.org within a week.
On 9/26/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 12:26, krishnakant Mane wrote:
On 26/09/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
Dlink was one of the crooked companies that violated the gpl and was taken to court by Harold Welte. They lost the case. Their defence shows their crookedness and greed. Dlink contended that linux indulged in price fixing by keeping price at zero and hence was indulging in monopolistic behaviour. Therfore by magic Dlink was allowed to violate the terms of the GPL. The court said that irrespective of the allegation of price fixing, Dlink ceased to be a licencee of the gpl if it violtates any clause of the gpl.
who was indulged in price fixing? who is linux? was the company talking about the linux community? or linus him self?
The details are not clear as yet cause the original complaint and the judgement is in German.
this is an open appeal to all the community: if you know any cases where GPL is voilated, FSF India can take up the case, and if the case is in other countries we can ask our sister orgaanizations to take it up.
Nagarjuna
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I belive that i have found another gpl violation from one of the largest IT houses in the country. They had developed an embedded
consider reporting to gpl-violations.org
philip
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 14:40, Philip Tellis wrote:
Sometime Today, j cobbled together some glyphs to say:
I belive that i have found another gpl violation from one of the largest IT houses in the country. They had developed an embedded
consider reporting to gpl-violations.org
Most certainly. But i need to verify several things before doing do so. As it stands the tool chain is gcc and friends with cygwin on doze. Not a word on using the toolchain on linux. And the licence in the cygwin source directory says gpl. So it's not an alternate reality cygwin port as supplied by RedHat. A compile generates an elf arm binary.The only kernels that i know of that run an elf binary on arm is linux and qnx. Not sure of bsd. The images supplied is a gpgp encoded and zipped file (that much i found out while checking some scripts hidden in the interiors). Now to decrypt the image and grep the binary. Since this is a "pro" system the fs has to be mtd and jffs which afaik are gpld. Let see what come of it.
I belive that i have found another gpl violation from one of the largest IT houses in the country. They had developed an embedded
consider reporting to gpl-violations.org
My guess is Wipro, I am no expert in licenses. All most all ADSL (router, modem etc) manufactured by Dlink, Linksys, Netcomm, Actiontec are using Embedded Linux. Are they suppose to give source code too?
Best Regards,
Mukund Deshmukh. Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd 10/1, IT Park, Parsodi, Nagpur-440022 Cell - 9422113746
On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 10:40 +0530, Mukund Deshmukh wrote:
I belive that i have found another gpl violation from one of the largest IT houses in the country. They had developed an embedded
consider reporting to gpl-violations.org
My guess is Wipro,
I suggest let's not speculate on the identity of the violator. Let the OP finish the investigation and reveal the name when he feels it is appropriate.
My 2 cents.
-- Arun Khan
On 27-Sep-06, at 1:02 PM, Arun K. Khan wrote:
I suggest let's not speculate on the identity of the violator. Let the OP finish the investigation and reveal the name when he feels it is appropriate.
if we knew what he was investigating, more brain power could be focussed on the investigation. There is no question of libel or slander involved - after all this is the foss way.
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 13:27, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 27-Sep-06, at 1:02 PM, Arun K. Khan wrote:
I suggest let's not speculate on the identity of the violator. Let the OP finish the investigation and reveal the name when he feels it is appropriate.
if we knew what he was investigating, more brain power could be focussed on the investigation. There is no question of libel or slander involved - after all this is the foss way.
Agreed. Read my earlier mail giving some details. Any known exploits on pgp. I will be googling but short cuts are welcome.
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 10:40, Mukund Deshmukh wrote:
I belive that i have found another gpl violation from one of the largest IT houses in the country. They had developed an embedded
consider reporting to gpl-violations.org
My guess is Wipro, I am no expert in licenses. All most all ADSL (router, modem etc) manufactured by Dlink, Linksys, Netcomm, Actiontec are using Embedded Linux. Are they suppose to give source code too?
Absolutely. Without exception.
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 07:39, jtd wrote:
My guess is Wipro, I am no expert in licenses. All most all ADSL (router, modem etc) manufactured by Dlink, Linksys, Netcomm, Actiontec are using Embedded Linux. Are they suppose to give source code too?
Absolutely. Without exception.
I'm not so sure about this. They are free not to include the source with the distribution as long as they give a written offer to the user to send the source for the price of the media ( and shipping? ). Which means they must give you the source if you are a user of that software _and_ you ask them for it.
On Thursday 28 September 2006 22:07, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 07:39, jtd wrote:
My guess is Wipro, I am no expert in licenses. All most all ADSL (router, modem etc) manufactured by Dlink, Linksys, Netcomm, Actiontec are using Embedded Linux. Are they suppose to give source code too?
Absolutely. Without exception.
I'm not so sure about this. They are free not to include the source with the distribution as long as they give a written offer to the user to send the source for the price of the media ( and shipping? ). Which means they must give you the source if you are a user of that software _and_ you ask them for it.
Correct. Even if there is no written offer and u buy a device / media with binaries, u are entitled to one copy of the source on demand. However many point you to sources on the web, which, although not strictly (afaik) within the licence requirements, is acceptable. If the original source is mangled, the upstream supplier has to offer the source of the mangled version.
Correct. Even if there is no written offer and u buy a device / media with binaries, u are entitled to one copy of the source on demand. However many point you to sources on the web, which, although not strictly (afaik) within the licence requirements, is acceptable. If the original source is mangled, the upstream supplier has to offer the source of the mangled version.
The DSL604T source is available, but for DSL502, I did not find any. Further DSL502 has few binary files in flash for which no source is available. These files are basically CGI files, used to update flash data. I am not sure if D-link India guys ever heard of GPL.
Best Regards,
Mukund Deshmukh. Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd 10/1, IT Park, Parsodi, Nagpur-440022 Cell - 9422113746
Mukund,
The DSL604T source is available, but for DSL502, I did not find any. Further DSL502 has few binary files in flash for which no source is available. These files are basically CGI files, used to update flash data. I am not sure if D-link India guys ever heard of GPL.
I think DLink doesnt need to open source for the CGI Files, but overall they should relase source code of the based operating system and all other GNU - GPLed components they are using, including the kernel.
Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com
On Friday 29 September 2006 12:35, Mitul Limbani wrote:
Mukund,
The DSL604T source is available, but for DSL502, I did not find any. Further DSL502 has few binary files in flash for which no source is available. These files are basically CGI files, used to update flash data. I am not sure if D-link India guys ever heard of GPL.
I think DLink doesnt need to open source for the CGI Files, but overall they should relase source code of the based operating system and all other GNU - GPLed components they are using, including the kernel.
DSL 502T was available. I had downloaded the sources. I think it was from the australian site. Dlink does offer excellent support imo, and the call center guys at least knew what they were saying. Too bad someone in management is clueless. There is a downside to the company in permitting reprogramming. However holding back code is illegal and immoral. Having a permanent counter in hardware would be fairly simple.
FSF India will use its office to know more about the case reported, and will make sure that software freedom is protected. will follow it up with Mitul.
Nagarjuna
Hello,
Nagarjuna and other folks. I know of a firm named Elitecore Technologies Pvt. Ltd. (the popular CyberOAM fame) from Ahemdabad, they are using all the GPL products without distributing source code. They are using Squid as proxy cache server + Linux Kernel and number of utilities that comprises of an entire Linux Operating System, and have been encrypting the entire OS install CD without any mention of source code download from any of their website.
I would like few other senior members from GPL Violation committee to demand further clarification with this origanization.
Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com
Mitul Limbani wrote:
Hello,
Nagarjuna and other folks. I know of a firm named Elitecore Technologies Pvt. Ltd. (the popular CyberOAM fame) from Ahemdabad, they are using all the GPL products without distributing source code. They are using Squid as proxy cache server + Linux Kernel and number of utilities that comprises of an entire Linux Operating System, and have been encrypting the entire OS install CD without any mention of source code download from any of their website.
I would like few other senior members from GPL Violation committee to demand further clarification with this origanization.
Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com
Mitual,
Nice catch.I have person from EliteCore who says that's true.Somebody (Why not me ?) should take action against them.
Regards,
Komal
On 28/09/06, Komal Shah komal.shah80@gmail.com wrote:
Mitual,
Nice catch.I have person from EliteCore who says that's true.Somebody (Why not me ?) should take action against them.
Regards,
Komal
Komal and mittal, I am meeting a couple of ceneor press personals tomorrow morning. I will be out for my birthday celebrations so wont be able to post their responses. but as I am starting my own set of articles on free software, I may as well list such cases so that peple and other organisations also become aware of such matters. I will post the responses from the reporters and what they think about the entire issue tomorrow night. I think bringing this issue in the press will give it big footage. some how gpl and related softwares are not getting that much of publicity over press and media. but better late than never. Krishnakant.
Krishnakant,
Personally I know atleast 5-10 companies here in India who are closing quite a few amount of GPL applications like Vicidial and AstGUIClient and framing that as their own Asterisk based Call Center solution.
Problem with the whole issue is, in India everything can be bought (right from software to people) Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com
Quoting krishnakant Mane researchbase@gmail.com:
On 28/09/06, Komal Shah komal.shah80@gmail.com wrote:
Mitual,
Nice catch.I have person from EliteCore who says that's true.Somebody (Why not me ?) should take action against them.
Regards,
Komal
Komal and mittal, I am meeting a couple of ceneor press personals tomorrow morning. I will be out for my birthday celebrations so wont be able to post their responses. but as I am starting my own set of articles on free software, I may as well list such cases so that peple and other organisations also become aware of such matters. I will post the responses from the reporters and what they think about the entire issue tomorrow night. I think bringing this issue in the press will give it big footage. some how gpl and related softwares are not getting that much of publicity over press and media. but better late than never. Krishnakant.
On Friday 29 September 2006 02:27, Mitul Limbani wrote:
Krishnakant,
Personally I know atleast 5-10 companies here in India who are closing quite a few amount of GPL applications like Vicidial and AstGUIClient and framing that as their own Asterisk based Call Center solution.
Are u sure that the original copyright holders have not dual licenced ?. At least sourceforge says nothing about the licence (or i m issed it). And one must assume the worst before firing off that legal missile.
Jtd,
Quoting jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in:
Are u sure that the original copyright holders have not dual licenced ?. At least sourceforge says nothing about the licence (or i m issed it). And one must assume the worst before firing off that legal missile.
There is no such mention of existence of Dual Licensing model more over Author runs his own consulting company eflo.net providing Vicidial installations.
I heavily doubt of any existence of such model, still I am not shooting a legal missile, I SUSPECT them to be violating GPL.
Surprisingly most of these companies are located in Ahemdabad, Surat. :)
Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com
On Friday 29 September 2006 03:15, Mitul Limbani wrote:
Jtd,
Quoting jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in:
Are u sure that the original copyright holders have not dual licenced ?. At least sourceforge says nothing about the licence (or i m issed it). And one must assume the worst before firing off that legal missile.
There is no such mention of existence of Dual Licensing model more over Author runs his own consulting company eflo.net providing Vicidial installations.
I heavily doubt of any existence of such model, still I am not shooting a legal missile, I SUSPECT them to be violating GPL.
Surprisingly most of these companies are located in Ahemdabad, Surat. :)
Post the author on your findings. I he should be interested. Any estimate on the numbers of installations. That could raise the authors intere$$t.
krishnakant Mane wrote:
On 28/09/06, Komal Shah komal.shah80@gmail.com wrote:
Mitual,
Nice catch.I have person from EliteCore who says that's true.Somebody (Why not me ?) should take action against them.
Regards,
Komal
Komal and mittal,
Hello guys, this is a request to everyone to use spell check for your mails. Mitul's name is not changeable under GPL. A short nick name is fine but not a full name change. Some time back someone wanted to see a Mullah instead of moolah. I was tempted to put in a funny reply but didn't want to offend anyone.
Regards,
Rony.
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On Thursday 28 September 2006 19:18, Komal Shah wrote:
Nice catch.I have person from EliteCore who says that's true.Somebody (Why not me ?) should take action against them.
Do u have copyright on any of the code? even a single line would do. Otherwise u cant take action independently. U would have to send a legal notice to them get their reply and file it with the FSF or someone willing to take action and holding coyright in any of the code that they are distributing.
Jtd,
Quoting jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in:
On Thursday 28 September 2006 19:18, Komal Shah wrote:
Nice catch.I have person from EliteCore who says that's true.Somebody (Why not me ?) should take action against them.
Do u have copyright on any of the code? even a single line would do. Otherwise u cant take action independently. U would have to send a legal notice to them get their reply and file it with the FSF or someone willing to take action and holding coyright in any of the code that they are distributing.
If that would have been the case then I would have already filed a legal notice individually.
Upon call of Nagarjuna to help find out companies violating GPL, I showed my findings and would like to work with the FSF India Office Bearers to authenticate the case if need be. Oh btw, they are using some redhat based distribution (hopefully someone from Redhat India might be interested)
Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com
On Friday 29 September 2006 02:56, Mitul Limbani wrote:
Jtd,
Quoting jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in:
On Thursday 28 September 2006 19:18, Komal Shah wrote:
Nice catch.I have person from EliteCore who says that's true.Somebody (Why not me ?) should take action against them.
Do u have copyright on any of the code? even a single line would do.
If that would have been the case then I would have already filed a legal notice individually.
:-(
On 29-Sep-06, at 2:56 AM, Mitul Limbani wrote:
with the FSF India Office Bearers to authenticate the case if need be. Oh btw, they are using some redhat based distribution (hopefully someone from Redhat India might be interested)
must be centOS - and a core devel of centOS, karanbir singh will be in delhi october end and he has a whole list of these.
On 29/09/06 07:05 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 29-Sep-06, at 2:56 AM, Mitul Limbani wrote:
with the FSF India Office Bearers to authenticate the case if need be. Oh btw, they are using some redhat based distribution (hopefully someone from Redhat India might be interested)
must be centOS - and a core devel of centOS, karanbir singh will be
Last I knew they were modifying RH9. I never was a customer, so I couldn't ask for source.
Devdas Bhagat
On 29-Sep-06, at 12:22 AM, jtd wrote:
Do u have copyright on any of the code? even a single line would do. Otherwise u cant take action independently. U would have to send a legal notice to them get their reply and file it with the FSF or someone willing to take action and holding coyright in any of the code that they are distributing.
PIL - contact moglen's firm in delhi
Komal,
Mitual,
Nice catch.I have person from EliteCore who says that's true.Somebody (Why not me ?) should take action against them.
This is true for all the other similar so called Internet Sharing firewall softwares that are sold to the cable operators. There is a whole breed of such software.
So again, question to FSF office bearers in India, What is the next Plan of Action ?
I have one of my customer who is using CyberOam Firewall Server, and he is clueless and has to rely every time on EliteCore engineers to move him out of trouble.
Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com
On 29-Sep-06, at 2:17 AM, Mitul Limbani wrote:
This is true for all the other similar so called Internet Sharing firewall softwares that are sold to the cable operators. There is a whole breed of such software.
and dont forget centOS ripoffs - last i heard there were at least 20-30 companies ripping off centOS. Kalculate appears to be one.
So again, question to FSF office bearers in India, What is the next Plan of Action ?
i hate to sound a bit cynical, but the FSF office bearers in India are well aware of all these violations and are doing nothing
On 9/28/06, Mitul Limbani mitul@enterux.com wrote:
Hello,
Nagarjuna and other folks. I know of a firm named Elitecore Technologies Pvt. Ltd. (the popular CyberOAM fame) from Ahemdabad, they are using all the GPL products without distributing source code. They are using Squid as proxy cache server + Linux Kernel and number of utilities that comprises of an entire Linux Operating System, and have been encrypting the entire OS install CD without any mention of source code download from any of their website.
I would like few other senior members from GPL Violation committee to demand further clarification with this origanization.
I might be stating the obvious here but using GPL licensed software and making changes and using them internally (like within a company) is okay. Google, Yahoo, Amazon and other companies does this and this is not a violation of the GNU GPL license. Also providing a hosted service such as hardened FTP server space (with patches whose source code is not available) also does not fall under the purview of the GNU GPL license. It is perfectly legal to do that.
However if the company is (re-) distributing the binaries then they must provide access to the source code. This access can be in different ways such as via a source code cd, webserver or FTP server within reasonable amount of time since distributing the binary. If they do not do this then they are in violation.
You can report violations to license-violation@gpl-violations.org. As far as I know, Harald Welte (of netfilter fame) works on it part-time so there might be a delay in the reply initially. Also I am not sure if you are planning to sue them, whether GPL-violations might be able to monetraily help and that too in India.
But do go ahead and report this violation. For all you know it might be precedent setting in India.
-- Vinayak
On 28-Sep-06, at 9:23 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote:
But do go ahead and report this violation.
if you checked the mail you were replying to, you would have noticed that it has already been reported - in fact the mail was the report to the relevant authority, namely FSF India - unless you feel that they wont do anything ;-)
On 9/28/06, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:
if you checked the mail you were replying to, you would have noticed that it has already been reported - in fact the mail was the report to the relevant authority, namely FSF India - unless you feel that they wont do anything ;-)
Is there a GPL violation committee in FSF-India? If there is, I am sorry, I did not know it. AFAIK, most GPL violations are either reported to FSF chapters in respective countries or gpl-violations.org.
FSF generally handles GPL violations by keeping a low-profile and working with the vendor for solving it.GPl-violations is well-known due to the PR it gets for filing suits and getting vendors to comply as in the D-Link case.
-- Vinayak
On 28-Sep-06, at 9:54 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote:
Is there a GPL violation committee in FSF-India? If there is, I am sorry, I did not know it. AFAIK, most GPL violations are either reported to FSF chapters in respective countries or gpl-violations.org.
moglens law firm has a branch in delhi
Vinayak,
I might be stating the obvious here but using GPL licensed software and making changes and using them internally (like within a company) is okay. Google, Yahoo, Amazon and other companies does this and this is not a violation of the GNU GPL license. Also providing a hosted service such as hardened FTP server space (with patches whose source code is not available) also does not fall under the purview of the GNU GPL license. It is perfectly legal to do that.
This is not the case, they are using GPLed software, building interface on top of it and closing THE ENTIRE RESULT, including the file system.
They are using some kind of MD5 hash to encrypt the file system (again using custom hash within ext3), I tried mounting the file system partition by making the drive as secondary drive, still mount doesnt know how to mount the partition.
However if the company is (re-) distributing the binaries then they must provide access to the source code. This access can be in different ways such as via a source code cd, webserver or FTP server within reasonable amount of time since distributing the binary. If they do not do this then they are in violation.
No source code pal, they dont entertain such questions ! :) They have been doing this since past 5-6 years. During that time, gpl-violations wasnt all that pro-active and wasnt proven in any court of law.
You can report violations to license-violation@gpl-violations.org. As far as I know, Harald Welte (of netfilter fame) works on it part-time so there might be a delay in the reply initially. Also I am not sure if you are planning to sue them, whether GPL-violations might be able to monetraily help and that too in India.
But do go ahead and report this violation. For all you know it might be precedent setting in India.
Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com