*Minutes of October GLUG-Meet @ KReSIT - IIT*
The GNU/Linux Users Group of Mumbai held its October GLUG meet at KERSIT - IIT on 17th October 2004. This meet was attended by about 25 people coming from all over the city. Following discussions and talks were conducted.
-> FLOSS and its relevance to India - by Rajesh Jain
Rajesh Jain talked about his affordable computing architecture based on thin client network to deliver localized content to Indian masses. An architecture that builds upon the Free Software stack available at present combined with low cost, high performance hardware can be a boon to the mid segment that does not have a budget of more than Rs. 10,000. A hard core blogger and a visonary, his talk was one of the best we had in the near past. We had a long question and answer session with everyone putting forward their queries and Rajesh replying to everyone patiently.
-> PHP : Resty - by Mitul and Sandeep
Next talk was on PHP - Resty by Sandeep. Resty is an inhouse solution developed by Enterux which builds upon the PHP architecture.
* Details of next GLUG meet: Date: 14 November 2004. Agenda: -> To be decided Venue: -> Netcore Solutions
Please see homepage for updates on next GLUG meet.
-Anurag
-- ----------------------------------------------- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.
The theme for the next GLUG meet is "Free/Open Source Community Software." There is a tremendous amount of innovation that is happening in the area of community software with sites like Ryze, Linked In, Orkut etc growing rapidly in popularity. Blogs are another form of community software that have become very popular in recent times.
One of the speakers at the upcoming GLUG meet is Veer Bothra who manages Blogstreet.com. I will try to get Krishnan Unni who manages the very successful Mumbai Business Networking Mixer on Ryze [1] as a speaker. Is anyone else interested in speaking at this GLUG meet?
Also, many of us will be away from Mumbai on the second Sunday of November (myself included) because of the long weekend for Diwali. I therefore suggest that the next GLUG meet be held on 21st November 2004 at 3PM. The venue for the same will be Netcore's office [2] in Lower Parel.
Feedback, suggestions, speakers welcome!
Venky
[1] www.ryze.com and http://mumbai-network.ryze.com/
Hey Gluggers,
Meanwhile if any one is interested to get hooked on with PHP Meetup group, then they can join up on http://php.meetup.com/187/ More over we are having a meetup on 6th Nov 2004 @ Just Around the corner - Bandra.
Looking forward to see interested PHP developers out there.
Best Regards, Mitul Limbani CTO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), http://www.enterux.com/
Quoting Venkatesh Hariharan venky1@vsnl.com:
The theme for the next GLUG meet is "Free/Open Source Community Software." There is a tremendous amount of innovation that is happening in the area of community software with sites like Ryze, Linked In, Orkut etc growing rapidly in popularity. Blogs are another form of community software that have become very popular in recent times.
One of the speakers at the upcoming GLUG meet is Veer Bothra who manages Blogstreet.com. I will try to get Krishnan Unni who manages the very successful Mumbai Business Networking Mixer on Ryze [1] as a speaker. Is anyone else interested in speaking at this GLUG meet?
Also, many of us will be away from Mumbai on the second Sunday of November (myself included) because of the long weekend for Diwali. I therefore suggest that the next GLUG meet be held on 21st November 2004 at 3PM. The venue for the same will be Netcore's office [2] in Lower Parel.
Feedback, suggestions, speakers welcome!
Venky
[1] www.ryze.com and http://mumbai-network.ryze.com/
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:28:37 +0530, mitul@mitul.com mitul@mitul.com wrote:
Hey Gluggers,
Meanwhile if any one is interested to get hooked on with PHP Meetup group, then they can join up on http://php.meetup.com/187/ More over we are having a meetup on 6th Nov 2004 @ Just Around the corner - Bandra.
Looking forward to see interested PHP developers out there.
Hello mitul,
we definately need a few more of technical seminars. Although we have been having good turnouts in the recent meets, but I would have enjoyed the meets much more if there would have been some more technical topics (I would have loved so see rusty in action than just words). I recommend postgresql, PHP, perl, python, Postfix, Java, Mono (in action). Development tools (kdevelop, make, autoconf, anjuta, etc).
Is there a scope to have webcasts of the seminars we hold on the ilug-bom site?
Amish.
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:33:19 -0700, "Amish Munshi" amishmunshi@gmail.com said:
we definately need a few more of technical seminars. Although we have been having good turnouts in the recent meets, but I would have enjoyed the meets much more if there would have been some more technical topics (I would have loved so see rusty in action than just words).
The september GLUG meet was also too good even though it was not based on any technical topic. Mr. Subramaniam Vutha and Ms. Nappinai kept us consumed all the while in their talk. I suggest Venky to hold more of such topics.
Is there a scope to have webcasts of the seminars we hold on the ilug-bom site?
Good idea. But it needs volunteers for help. Would you like to volunteer?
-Anurag
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:33:19 -0700, "Amish Munshi" amishmunshi@gmail.com said:
we definately need a few more of technical seminars. Although we have been having good turnouts in the recent meets, but I would have enjoyed the meets much more if there would have been some more technical topics (I would have loved so see rusty in action than just words).
For the December GLUG meet (12th December 2004) we could perhaps wrap a Python around ourselves :-) I had a meeting with Dr. Nagarjuna w.r.t a Free/Open Source alternative to Visual Basic that we could suggest for school curriculum and Python came up as a good alternative. Do others on this list agree? If so, any volunteers for educating the GLUG on Python at the December 12 GLUG meet?
Venky
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 11:13:17 +0530, Venkatesh Hariharan venky1@vsnl.com wrote:
For the December GLUG meet (12th December 2004) we could perhaps wrap a Python around ourselves :-) I had a meeting with Dr. Nagarjuna w.r.t a Free/Open Source alternative to Visual Basic that we could suggest for school curriculum and Python came up as a good alternative. Do others on this list agree? If so, any volunteers for educating the GLUG on Python at the December 12 GLUG meet?
On a completely different note, I can takeup mono and why .NET makes a lot of sense. Fortunately unlike Java we have an opensource compiler for .NET which is already implimented in production enviornments.
Amish.
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 11:26, Amish Munshi wrote:
On a completely different note, I can takeup mono and why .NET makes a lot of sense. Fortunately unlike Java we have an opensource compiler for .NET which is already implimented in production enviornments.
We can take a poll at the next LUG meet and schedule the December 2004 talk(s) accordingly.
Regards,
Venky
Amish Munshi wrote:
On a completely different note, I can takeup mono and why .NET makes a lot of sense. Fortunately unlike Java we have an opensource compiler for .NET which is already implimented in production enviornments.
There's a thread going on in FSF's mailing list regarding the ethical implications of the whole DotNET framework altogether.... How justified would it be to embrace a proprietary software major's another product, is something which we should consider first ....
-Anurag
-- ----------------------------------------------- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.
Anurag wrote:
Amish Munshi wrote:
On a completely different note, I can takeup mono and why .NET makes a lot of sense. Fortunately unlike Java we have an opensource compiler for .NET which is already implimented in production enviornments.
There's a thread going on in FSF's mailing list regarding the ethical implications of the whole DotNET framework altogether.... How justified would it be to embrace a proprietary software major's another product, is something which we should consider first ....
Please remember that .Net Framework is microsoft's implementation of the Open Architecture Standards for software development provided by European Computer Manufacturer's Association (ECMA). Anyone can create an alternate implementation of the framework on any OS of his or her choice. Simply because Microsoft has been the first to implement it or has made it popular does not mean that you should refuse to use it.
As far as I have heard, DOTGNU and MONO, both are implemented from the ECMA standards and they are not reverse engineered from Microsoft .Net Framework. In fact, Microsoft has its own open source implementation of .Net Framework called ROTOR which it created as a proof of concept to show that .Net was open standard and could be created by anyone.
Regards Saswata
Please remember that .Net Framework is microsoft's implementation of the Open Architecture Standards for software development provided by European Computer Manufacturer's Association (ECMA). Anyone can create an alternate implementation of the framework on any OS of his or her choice. Simply because Microsoft has been the first to implement it or has made it popular does not mean that you should refuse to use it.
MS has made and i think its quite neat. they have tried to straigthen up a lot of things with .NET [ they actually dropped VBscript !!! - most widely used for scripting]
DOTGNU and MONO open extend the reach of windows developers into a space that they have always been scared of ... enterprises will have more confidence in moving their desktops to linux ...
s/w cos will be able to leverage their existing code resource pool to write / use applications for linux ...
As far as I have heard, DOTGNU and MONO, both are implemented from the ECMA standards and they are not reverse engineered from Microsoft .Net Framework.
yes there is no reverse engg involved . no reason to reverse engg anything ... mono site specifically states that their scope inclues only wat ECMA standard suggest.
yes it does hurt egos of several some ppl who live like a frog in a well.
also on a humble note isnt a lot of concepts of unix have been ported to linux ... so isnt that reverse engg coz code wasnt available
Regards Saswata
My 2 Cents
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Amish Munshi -
Anurag -
mitul＠mitul.com -
Philip Tellis -
Saswata Banerjee & Associates -
SeekingGyan -
Venkatesh Hariharan