We have raised our doubts about this earlier here. But it is real now.
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/12/18/2047203
Praveen
On Saturday 20 Dec 2008 4:38:50 am Praveen A wrote:
We have raised our doubts about this earlier here. But it is real now.
what is real? Could you summarise? I do not have the bandwidth currently to read slashdot.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 5:56 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.orgwrote:
On Saturday 20 Dec 2008 4:38:50 am Praveen A wrote:
We have raised our doubts about this earlier here. But it is real now.
what is real? Could you summarise? I do not have the bandwidth currently to read slashdot.
The danger of continuing to map streets for OSM/FreeMap in the curretn situation.Two guys have been put behind bars under the official secrets act for mapping highways using GPS(apparently for Nokia Navigator).Only,their laptop also contained photos of the local airforce base.
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On Saturday 20 Dec 2008 7:01:41 am Easwar Hariharan wrote:
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 5:56 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.orgwrote:
On Saturday 20 Dec 2008 4:38:50 am Praveen A wrote:
We have raised our doubts about this earlier here. But it is real now.
what is real? Could you summarise? I do not have the bandwidth currently to read slashdot.
The danger of continuing to map streets for OSM/FreeMap in the curretn situation.
where is the danger?
Two guys have been put behind bars under the official secrets act for mapping highways using GPS(apparently for Nokia Navigator).
not so - they were arrested for photographing the Jamnagar airforce base. In any situation if you go around photographing military bases - especially in a place like Gujarat, you are asking for trouble. When mapping, realise that the average policeman/security guy is uneducated and unaware of modern technology. It is always good to speak to the authorities in sensitive areas and enlist their support. We OSM guys map as individuals and may not be able to approach higher authorities, but surely a company like Nokia can. To protect our mappers, we are working on setting up a local OSM chapter that can interact with the authorities for suitable permissions, maybe even a badge or id card for OSM members. As far as mapping Mumbai is concerned, no need to go on the streets at all - satellite image is there, you can comfortably sit in your house and help rectify and improve the Mumbai map. Also join OSM and help us get things organised.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:
not so - they were arrested for photographing the Jamnagar airforce base. In any situation if you go around photographing military bases - especially in a place like Gujarat, you are asking for trouble. When mapping, realise that the average policeman/security guy is uneducated and unaware of modern technology.
What is so special about Gujarat? This is same for all places where Security guys and Policemen are not aware of modern technology.
On Saturday 20 December 2008 11:19, Kartik Mistry wrote:
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:
not so - they were arrested for photographing the Jamnagar airforce base. In any situation if you go around photographing military bases - especially in a place like Gujarat, you are asking for trouble. When mapping, realise that the average policeman/security guy is uneducated and unaware of modern technology.
What is so special about Gujarat? This is same for all places where Security guys and Policemen are not aware of modern technology.
BTW the education requirement is SSC for the cop on the beat. But what amazes me is that the people incharge of security - including services bosses - are such ignorants. Our enemies must be rolling under their desks laughing. Blocking areas on googlemaps is redflaging the area. Ofcourse our experts clean side step this by blocking the wrong areas. And far better sat imagery is COTS for amounts well within the reach of terror groups. But they neednot spend too much. Get the coords of the red flagged area and a few more not so flagged to avoid suspicion (as though it matters) and pay peanuts for the small areas of interest. Hmm. I suppose i am aiding terror with this post.
We had press reports that the cops had tapped into the terrorists calls LIVE. They were using voip. It never occured to the cops to spoof a call and feed suitable disinfo. Various police departments are now falling over themselves to claim "credit" for the pathetic show.
On Saturday 20 Dec 2008 11:19:20 am Kartik Mistry wrote:
not so - they were arrested for photographing the Jamnagar airforce base. In any situation if you go around photographing military bases - especially in a place like Gujarat, you are asking for trouble. When mapping, realise that the average policeman/security guy is uneducated and unaware of modern technology.
What is so special about Gujarat?
Narendra Modi
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:
What is so special about Gujarat?
Narendra Modi
Thanks for clearing eternal doubts. You missed KM here.
On Saturday 20 Dec 2008 4:50:17 pm Kartik Mistry wrote:
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org
wrote:
What is so special about Gujarat?
Narendra Modi
Thanks for clearing eternal doubts. You missed KM here.
KM is very special - but does he map?
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.orgwrote:
On Saturday 20 Dec 2008 4:50:17 pm Kartik Mistry wrote:
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org
wrote:
What is so special about Gujarat?
Narendra Modi
Thanks for clearing eternal doubts. You missed KM here.
KM is very special - but does he map?
I am dismayed to see politics dragged into this. Gujarat has a long and
fragile border with Pakistan, and a high concentration of military installations especially in the Jamnagar region, apart from economic targets.
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