hi, as you know, NRC-FOSS (http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/) is planning to start a node at Mumbai. This node will help to coordinate/facilitate foss related activities in Mumbai especially in the following areas:
1. promoting foss in formal and non-formal education 2. popularising foss in schools, colleges, industry and ngos in the maharashtra region 3. fostering the writing and development of foss code in the area.
To this end we hope to facilitate at least a couple of meetings/installfests or linux demo days a month in various establishments as well as help coordinate activities. It goes without saying that we cant achieve anything without active participation of the LUG.
The node will in all probability be hosted by VJTI and we are having a meeting with the management and the managements of other colleges on the 17th morning at VJTI. We would like to discuss the scope and functioning of the node with members of the community in the afternoon/evening. I know it is a working day, but I hope a good number of members will take some time off to participate. The meeting will take place at the VJTI and exact place and time will be announced depending on the response we get here. Please respond to the list with your ideas, suggestions and whether you will be able to participate.
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On 08/05/07, lawgon@au-kbc.org lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:
hi, as you know, NRC-FOSS (http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/) is planning to start a node at Mumbai. This node will help to coordinate/facilitate foss related activities in Mumbai especially in the following areas:
that's a nice idea.
- promoting foss in formal and non-formal education
- popularising foss in schools, colleges, industry and ngos in the
maharashtra region
I hope that such kind of thing will happen in reality because we often see that so called advocates of FOSS only talk about it and themselves tell organisations and industry to stay away from it. I will be very happy that we start doing things at practical level and make people use it rather than just hear it and then "ok we will try it some time ".
- fostering the writing and development of foss code in the area.
this can only happen if the above mentioned situation is corrected.
To this end we hope to facilitate at least a couple of meetings/installfests or linux demo days a month in various establishments as well as help coordinate activities. It goes without saying that we cant achieve anything without active participation of the LUG.
My word for this. I will be there for the kind of work I can do. I can help on seminars and demos of FOSS in day to day use. we can also go to art colleges and show them how powerful Inkscape and gimpe is. I can do demos on gnome desktop for starters and newbees to gnu/linux. we can have experts to talk on varius issues like vifi etc. there are so many aspects to education and FOSS. we need to do things like hands-on seminars on writing c code using linux. people still believe that c is only used on windows "believe me this is the case ", and terbo c is the only compiler and for practical perpus vc must be used. this is the general case. Nagarjun, if you are reading this or happen to read this, please express your thoughts on the points I have raised as you are driving the FOSS moment very strongly.
The node will in all probability be hosted by VJTI and we are having a meeting with the management and the managements of other colleges on the 17th morning at VJTI. We would like to discuss the scope and functioning of the node with members of the community in the afternoon/evening. I know it is a working day, but I hope a good number of members will take some time off to participate.
I will be there by all means. I appeal to all the FOSS promoters and users to try as far as possible to come over. again forgive me for chiming about the same things but please help this let go beyond just talking and false praising of FOSS and gnu/linux, and then softly telling the interested people "well, foss is ok but better stick with the so called professional non-free software". People who are doing their best to support foss get disturbed by such things. let's get together and bring FOSS to the forfront and help people achieve freedom in Information technology. and yes I am also happy that accessibility of the gnome desktop has improved by leeps and bouns. so no issues for handicap people as well. I believe that people may as well pay for free software. any ways microsoft is soon to anounce the release of package to give windows xp for $3 to all schools. so it is time for us to stop chattering about only the cost aspect. regards, Krishnakant.
On Tuesday 08 May 2007 19:14:26 krishnakant Mane wrote:
On 08/05/07, lawgon@au-kbc.org lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:
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Nessuna vittoria senza armonia.
On 08/05/07, Mrugesh Karnik mrugeshkarnik@gmail.com wrote:
Nessuna vittoria senza armonia.
was that a message from an alian? regards, Krishnakant.
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On Tuesday 08 May 2007 08:46 PM, Vihan Pandey cobbled together some glyphs to say:
Nessuna vittoria senza armonia.
Err... translate.
Italian for ``No Victory without harmony''.
Regards, BG
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On Tuesday 08 May 2007 18:43, lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:
hi, as you know, NRC-FOSS (http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/) is planning to start a node at Mumbai.
The node will in all probability be hosted by VJTI
Has the Kelkar college node started? In any case VJTI is definetly a more accessible location.
The node will in all probability be hosted by VJTI and we are having a meeting with the management and the managements of other colleges on the 17th morning at VJTI.
Cant make it as i am away in Goa from 15 to 22.
On 09-May-07, at 1:00 PM, jtd wrote:
The node will in all probability be hosted by VJTI
Has the Kelkar college node started?
kelkar node didnt work out - so we shifted to vjti
On 09-May-07, at 2:00 PM, Omkar Raut wrote:
What is node basically? How can I participate in it as a student?
a node is a branch - it will help you propagate foss among your fellow students, also support you in writing foss code - please see the original post and our website for more details
On 09/05/07, Omkar Raut omkar86@gmail.com wrote:
What is node basically? How can I participate in it as a student?
depends on what you want to do. if you are a programmer, you will get help on doing the coding. if you are an advocate and want to promote foss (in reality not just talking ) then the node is the best place for you to get support from the available people. it is in short a one stop place for getting help. may be it will be used for glug meets for promoting and discussing gnu/linux. by the way I still can't get the exact time for the meet and where exactly in vjti is it going to be held? regards, Krishnakant.
Hi,
On 5/12/07, krishnakant Mane researchbase@gmail.com wrote:
On 09/05/07, Omkar Raut omkar86@gmail.com wrote:
What is node basically? How can I participate in it as a student?
depends on what you want to do. if you are a programmer, you will get help on doing the coding.
Really? I wonder if I want to be there then. Why would I spend my time helping some guy to code? Unless its a foss project or consultancy? Or do I understand you wrong.
if you are an advocate and want to promote foss (in reality not just talking )
Talking is advocacy and promoting and nothing more than that.
then the node is the best place for you to get support from the available people. it is in short a one stop place for getting help. may be it will be used for glug meets for promoting and discussing gnu/linux. by the way I still can't get the exact time for the meet and where exactly in vjti is it going to be held?
I am sort of lost atm, what exactly are the ideals of NRCFOSS-Mumbai, prolly my fault. But I know what I want to do (and what I believe in) NRCFOSS or no NRCFOSS, Kenneth, Anurag and Mrugesh were there with me when I was at the meeting. Another person on this list, Sankarshan knows that even. Since I have discussed about this people enough about it and prolly have done my bit even somewhere sometime.
So providing my health helps me enough, I will do what I want to do with or without any help. My personal belief and whatever I learnt over last 2 years from lots of people is, it the audience doesn't care for learning more, nothing will work. Thats why I shamelessly support just one guy ( who has never told me more than one thing - I want to learn more, I don't care if there is any incentive involved ) on this list, who has told me not to do so in public, so I refrain from taking his name. But he knows that, the delight I get to see his commits just once a day, is a joy big enough and an accomplishment in itself.
Cheers!
Pradeepto
if you are a programmer, you will get help on doing the coding.
Really? I wonder if I want to be there then. Why would Ispend my time helping some guy to code? Unless its a foss project or consultancy?
True. IMHO if the student has bothered even an iota to grasp an infinitesimal of theory and then tried to do his/her practicals then that student needs an intro as to how the FOSS way of working is helpful to him/her and the community in general - and in order to do this the intro of FOSS tools needs to be given.
Those(and there are MANY) who just don't give a shit and are there to get degrees and placements - well all you can do is patiently tell them WHY this is important - the few who do get the initial interest may then decide to follow for a time(and hopefully stick on and join the former category) - or NOT.
In which case there's no point dragging a troll to the water. Let alone teach him to code :P
So providing my health helps me enough, I will do what I
want to do with or without any help.
Dude - take care - and that's from the heart.
My personal belief and whatever I
learnt over last 2 years from lots of people is, it the audience doesn't care for learning more, nothing will work. Thats why I shamelessly support just one guy
Getting one into FOSS then supporting and encouraging him that he may one day enlighten others is one of the most noble things one can do.
( who has never told me more than one
thing - I want to learn more, I don't care if there is any incentive involved ) on this list, who has told me not to do so in public, so I refrain from taking his name. But he knows that, the delight I get to see his commits just once a day, is a joy big enough and an accomplishment in itself.
Sir Pradeepto, may thou and thy pupil keep heading steadfast into the GREAT ``K" on the horizon and be greeted by Katie and Konqi at its door :-)
Regards,
- vihan
On 12-May-07, at 1:31 AM, Pradeepto Bhattacharya wrote:
On 09/05/07, Omkar Raut omkar86@gmail.com wrote:
What is node basically? How can I participate in it as a student?
depends on what you want to do. if you are a programmer, you will get help on doing the coding.
Really? I wonder if I want to be there then. Why would Ispend my time helping some guy to code? Unless its a foss project or consultancy? Or do I understand you wrong.
1. foss projects where the customer agrees to release the code under some kind of osi approved license 2. mentoring student projects where the student agrees to release the project as open source
On 12-May-07, at 12:29 AM, krishnakant Mane wrote:
by the way I still can't get the exact time for the meet and where exactly in vjti is it going to be held?
not time and venue not announced yet - will be announced when we find out if any one is coming - and how many
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