-----Original Message----- From: quasar@vsnl.net To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
vinayak@myrealbox.com wrote
Also you will agree that being not being tied to a single s/w vendor also makes sound business sense. So that you are not at the nercy to the whims and fancies of that particular vendor
It makes good sense only sometimes. Consider this example: I am a company developing some solution for a specialised domain. I choose some OS and a commercial tool for the development from company X. I also buy the support package offered by that X. Well, during the development process we face many problems which are promptly dealt with by the support team at X. They also patch the product for a few of our specific needs. I find it a well worth investment for buying the tool from X.
Replace X with Xanalys. The 'tool' was Lispworks. The guy who posted the above at c.l.l was Dave Bakhash and he was extremely satisfied with Lispworks and Xanalys. It helped him complete his (telephony product I think) ahead of schedule.
The point is Commercial Proprietary Software per say is not evil.
The Free Software Movement come from a Utopian spirit exibhited by some people. There is no need for one side to be evil for the other side to be 'good'.
-------------------- You have missed the point. The point here is not good vs evil but about what one would prefer as businessman The example that you have given is not that common Anyways you don't get patches and updates within minutes/hours by any vendor. If they do they are very rare But this is common in the free software world as others on this group will testify.
Although i agree,it is sometimes criminal to generalise I can take this liberty in this regard here as the evidence in favour of free software (in terms of support such as this mailing list) is overwhelmingly lopsided.
--> Vinayak Hegde
Hello Luggers...;)
good to see a lot of activity. All of us are happy about the same.
We are scheduling a meeting Coming Sunday at 4:30PM SHARP at HBCSE. The meeting will wind up by 6:30PM.
>> AGENDA <<
--> Opening Talk will be by Sandeep on "Licensing Issues and Clarification on Licensing models"
Sandeep currently working with us towards building an Open Developers Network around the Country is also doing his M.A. in philosophy from the University of Bombay.
He will cover the various most commonn licensing models availble to us on Free Software and Open Source and throw light on the ambiguity people have on them. So....those of you who have been part of M$ FUD campaign.......better rope yourselves into this meeting and be there to have a much more CLEAR IDEA ON WHAT WE ALL STAND FOR.
--> Any other Speakers...??? Post your topics please.
Bye for now and have a nice day.
Trevor
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On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 12:51:33AM -0800, Trevor Warren wrote:
>> AGENDA <<
--> Opening Talk will be by Sandeep on "Licensing Issues and Clarification on Licensing models"
<snip>
--> Any other Speakers...??? Post your topics please.
I suggest we keep maximum time for an open session, for introductions. Lots of new members in the LUG ... what say?
Sameer.
--- "Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe" sameerds@it.iitb.ac.in wrote:
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 12:51:33AM -0800, Trevor Warren wrote: I suggest we keep maximum time for an open session, for introductions. Lots of new members in the LUG ... what say?
[snip]
Sounds neat. But lets KEEP THIS REALLY OPEN. As in........after the initial talk any of the Luggers can leave if they want to.
Those who decide to stay behind can stay for the open session.
Bye for now and have a nice day.
Trevor
Sameer.
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Trevor,
Can I have the address for the meeting ?
Regards Saswata
----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Warren" trevorwarren@yahoo.com To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] LUG MEET coming Sunday at 4:30
--- "Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe" sameerds@it.iitb.ac.in wrote:
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 12:51:33AM -0800, Trevor Warren wrote: I suggest we keep maximum time for an open session, for introductions. Lots of new members in the LUG ... what say?
[snip]
Sounds neat. But lets KEEP THIS REALLY OPEN. As in........after the initial talk any of the Luggers can leave if they want to.
Those who decide to stay behind can stay for the open session.
Bye for now and have a nice day.
Trevor
Sameer.
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You can get the Address from the below URL:
http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/hbcse/main/location
--Rupesh
On 07/11/02 12:50 +0530, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote:
Trevor,
Can I have the address for the meeting ?
Ouch !! This place is at Trombay !!! That is way out of the place.
Anyway, since I will be going by car, if anyone from andheri side wants to come with me, let me know. (98210 84313)
Regards Saswata
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rupesh" rupeshn@gmx.net To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] LUG MEET coming Sunday at 4:30
You can get the Address from the below URL:
http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/hbcse/main/location
--Rupesh
On 07/11/02 12:50 +0530, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote:
Trevor,
Can I have the address for the meeting ?
Hi! I stay in Malad and wouls like to come to the meeting. Also a professor of mine would also like to joni me. Couls you let me know if it is possible to come with you? Thank You!
11/7/02 6:24:20 PM, "Saswata Banerjee & Associates" scrap@saswatabanerjee.com wrote:
Ouch !! This place is at Trombay !!! That is way out of the place.
Anyway, since I will be going by car, if anyone from andheri side wants to come with me, let me know. (98210 84313)
Regards Saswata
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rupesh" rupeshn@gmx.net To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] LUG MEET coming Sunday at 4:30
You can get the Address from the below URL:
http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/hbcse/main/location
--Rupesh
On 07/11/02 12:50 +0530, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote:
Trevor,
Can I have the address for the meeting ?
Hello Luggers...;)
Someone please work on a Draft for the Letter Of Intro and send it to me IMMIDEATELY. I need them for our FUTURE WORKSHOPS and various other Activities.
Its time to ACTION.....we can always have debates year long....or rather life long.....;)
Bye for now and have a nice day.
Trevor
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